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plasticbertrand

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"Max lockdown"

I guess people sitting on considerable wealth have no problems making such demands.

Who is going to be paying the bills during these lockdowns/max lockdowns?
Are you the same person who said that people who are at risk should stay under the max lockdown?

Why yes you are.

I guess those people are all rich?
 
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enframed

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Del Boca Vista, Phase III
Many folks are really worried about the new....still being rolled out as we speak....5G wireless networks / antennas coming to their neighborhoods. Can induce flu like symptoms....per the experts. Time will tell.....
Between 2000 and 2009, the more mozzarella that Americans downed, the more doctorates in civil engineering that U.S. universities awarded. Over a 10-year period, as levels of one went up, so did the other. The two showed a strong positive correlation.
 

oneula

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how's them brazzos doing?
Thinning of the herd?
Some of you here would be more than happy I guess

Three countries in the most trouble?
Russia, Brazil, USA
and what do they share in common?

manipulating the data going both ways
everyone curating the storyline
any accountibility for each and every unneeded death?
Nah
always blame someone of something else for your troubles.
 

crustBrother

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Are you the same person who said that people who are at risk should stay under the max lockdown?

Why yes you are.

I guess those people are all rich?
No. But a very large percentage of them are retired. As one of the working folks, I would have been pretty stoked to chip in to cover the cost of max lockdown for high risk of folks while the rest of us kept on with business as usual with some discretionary social distancing thrown into the mix. But whatever. That golden opportunity is just a distant speck in the rear-view mirror now.

But what's that I see up ahead?!?!?!

A perfect segue back to Casa's question that you so conveniently ignored!

Who's gonna pay for this mess? Certainly not the 15% of American's who find themselves recently unemployed. Certainly not the wealthy. They're too busy managing another vast transfer of wealth via Federal Reserve money printing.

So who?
 

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Between 2000 and 2009, the more mozzarella that Americans downed, the more doctorates in civil engineering that U.S. universities awarded. Over a 10-year period, as levels of one went up, so did the other. The two showed a strong positive correlation.
Lets see if your correlation analogy holds much water....
Mozzarella cheese consumption numbers have no other distinctions with respect to civil engineering degree numbers....that I can think of.....so from a problem solving perspective it's not a very compelling root cause theory. Right?

Now correlation of 5G roll out locations to Covid hot spot locations....
What other distinctions can one assess that makes this correlation interesting? Hmmmm...how about similar symptoms between the flu and radiation toxicity? Or the flu and decreased immune system function? Anything else distinctive? Well...it appears no one has ever met Koch's Postulates with respect to viruses....suggesting they're not a pathogen? Ala Terrain Theory? Hmmmm....that's some interesting distinctions....providing a somewhat compelling potential root cause or contributor explanation.

So yeah....correlation does not prove causation.....it's usually correlation plus compelling distinctions that provide the best clues toward root cause. In this case...time will tell.....as more data is gathered and assessed.
 
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No. But a very large percentage of them are retired. As one of the working folks, I would have been pretty stoked to chip in to cover the cost of max lockdown for high risk of folks while the rest of us kept on with business as usual with some discretionary social distancing thrown into the mix. But whatever. That golden opportunity is just a distant speck in the rear-view mirror now.

But what's that I see up ahead?!?!?!

A perfect segue back to Casa's question that you so conveniently ignored!

Who's gonna pay for this mess? Certainly not the 15% of American's who find themselves recently unemployed. Certainly not the wealthy. They're too busy managing another vast transfer of wealth via Federal Reserve money printing.

So who?
Unemployment is running at 25% counting the 4% unemployed before this. 36 million people filed UI claims in the past two months out of a workforce of 164.5 million.
 

mundus

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No. But a very large percentage of them are retired. As one of the working folks, I would have been pretty stoked to chip in to cover the cost of max lockdown for high risk of folks while the rest of us kept on with business as usual with some discretionary social distancing thrown into the mix. But whatever. That golden opportunity is just a distant speck in the rear-view mirror now.

But what's that I see up ahead?!?!?!

A perfect segue back to Casa's question that you so conveniently ignored!

Who's gonna pay for this mess? Certainly not the 15% of American's who find themselves recently unemployed. Certainly not the wealthy. They're too busy managing another vast transfer of wealth via Federal Reserve money printing.

So who?
I know it is unthinkable that the wealthy and corporations pay a cent more in taxes.
 

plasticbertrand

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Who's gonna pay for this mess? Certainly not the 15% of American's who find themselves recently unemployed. Certainly not the wealthy. They're too busy managing another vast transfer of wealth via Federal Reserve money printing.

So who?
If anything, this pandemic exposed the shortcomings of the system, with no safety nets or contingency plans of any kind, letting wealthy corporations get away with murder, while the working poor can't afford healthcare or get denied coverage.

I'm not holding my breath that after experiencing it, we've learned anything

There always seems to be plenty of money for bailing banks and the Wall Street but never for creating a safety net for situations like this.

So to answer your question, I don't know where the money will come from, I just know that as the richest country in the world, there's plenty of money lying around.

Nothing will happen until we sharpen our pitchforks, stop voting against our own interests and thinking that having a safety net equals socialism.
 
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oneula

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There's a printing press in DC that pays for everyting.
Especially bailing out "friends" of those that control the printing press.
Whenever their "friends" gets in trouble and comes complaining with a sob story, they just crank it up and start spitting out cash.
All the while devaluing the existing cash already out there and "kicking the can down the round" as they say regarding the balancing the books.
"Someone else's problem" they always say.
"I'll be long gone and cashed out" as a politician/policy maker when the hammer comes down.

That's kind of it in a nutshell.

Unfortunately with this no longer valid "trickle down economy" it's all dried up before it get's anywhere near where the vital water of cash needs to get. So those on the bottom die of "cash thirst".
In a strong parochial society (Reagan View) it works, but in today's shareholder/market driven economy it doesn't.
Everything just gets siphoned off at the top with buybacks, dividends and bonuses.

Just hope the electricity needed for the cash printers in DC don't go out.
Since they aren't paying the bill it just might
people talking about state bankruptcies.
what about a federal one?
It's happened to many countries before throughout time
The guy in the whitehouse is well versed at it.
 

mundus

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There's a printing press in DC that pays for everyting.
Especially bailing out "friends" of those that control the printing press.
Whenever their "friends" gets in trouble and comes complaining with a sob story, they just crank it up and start spitting out cash.
All the while devaluing the existing cash already out there and "kicking the can down the round" as they say regarding the balancing the books.
"Someone else's problem" they always say.
"I'll be long gone and cashed out" as a politician/policy maker when the hammer comes down.

That's kind of it in a nutshell.

Unfortunately with this no longer valid "trickle down economy" it's all dried up before it get's anywhere near where the vital water of cash needs to get. So those on the bottom die of "cash thirst".
In a strong parochial society (Reagan View) it works, but in today's shareholder/market driven economy it doesn't.
Everything just gets siphoned off at the top with buybacks, dividends and bonuses.

Just hope the electricity needed for the cash printers in DC don't go out.
Since they aren't paying the bill it just might
people talking about state bankruptcies.
what about a federal one?
It's happened to many countries before throughout time
The guy in the whitehouse is well versed at it.
Trickle down was the biggest con perpetrated on the stupid in a long, long time.