Issue speed generation on new board

[feralseppo]

so when you recommended 2 lbs, this board has a density of 0.8 lb ??

Depends on what the 36 gram volume measurement is, but the core might be 2 lb. 1 lb / cu ft is 16 grams/liter.
From Surfblanks Australia.

DENSITIES

26 KGM3 = 1.62 Pound

32 KGM3 = 2.0 Pound

Lay off the pies Mate. 185 is probably too heavy for those lightweight stringerless EPS builds if you don’t want the deck crushed.

 

[ghostshaper]

There's no way you can shape 0.08 lb EPS. We seem to be having some issues converting from metric to murican.

Densities are lb/cu ft or kg/cu m. Is the foam 36 kg/cu m? Then it would be about 2 lb/cu ft.

 

[griffinsurfboard]

4-4- 4 tail patch on EPS 2lb will dent way more than on a Poly blank
Biax cloth may correct this
Those pictures show very soft foam if 2 layers of glass are on the deck

 

[000]

Picture looks like 1 lb foam

i printed out the picture, then i weighed it


its far less than 1 pound

 

[Mat6920]

Depends on what the 36 gram volume measurement is, but the core might be 2 lb. 1 lb / cu ft is 16 grams/liter.
From Surfblanks Australia.

DENSITIES

26 KGM3 = 1.62 Pound

32 KGM3 = 2.0 Pound

Lay off the pies Mate. 185 is probably too heavy for those lightweight stringerless EPS builds if you don’t want the deck crushed.

Well i ve never heard thst you can t be on an epoxy at that weight, heaps of surfers around my weight surfing light epoxies. Epoxy boards goes up to 45 L or so, they are also made for heavier blocks.
Like i said, a mate has a firewire, same weight as me, board after 3 years is in GREAT condition. I own a superbrand Fling, same thing it s in good condition after a year (except rails have cracks) I dont think the issue here is my weight...

 

[griffinsurfboard]

YIKES !

Hasn't this been solved already ???

 

[Northern_Shores]

Well i ve never heard thst you can t be on an epoxy at that weight, heaps of surfers around my weight surfing light epoxies. Epoxy boards goes up to 45 L or so, they are also made for heavier blocks.
Like i said, a mate has a firewire, same weight as me, board after 3 years is in GREAT condition. I own a superbrand Fling, same thing it s in good condition after a year (except rails have cracks) I dont think the issue here is my weight...

THEY ARE NOT THE SAME!!!! YOUR BOARD SUCKS CUS ITS MADE FROM AIR AND GLASSED WITH NOTHING!!!!!!

 

[feralseppo]

Well i ve never heard thst you can t be on an epoxy at that weight, heaps of surfers around my weight surfing light epoxies. Epoxy boards goes up to 45 L or so, they are also made for heavier blocks.
Like i said, a mate has a firewire, same weight as me, board after 3 years is in GREAT condition. I own a superbrand Fling, same thing it s in good condition after a year (except rails have cracks) I dont think the issue here is my weight...

My kid has a Chilli with a similar build. The nose snapped and he is not even sure how it happened. When I looked at it the glass seemed paper thin. Thinner than what I would consider a standard glass job. Even the Chilli PU glass jobs are overly weak. I think on their site it says something about even using a layer of 2oz. Anyways, neither glass job is durable.

My point was at 185 you are probably going to put big dents in the deck with that stringerless lightweight build. All these big name shapers use the exact same stringerless EPS build and give it some bullshit name like Electralite or JS's Hyfi. These are bullshit weak builds with a strip of carbon that doesn't do anything for durability. Go find a shaper that will build a quality board rather than go brand name with the foofoo EPS "tech." I would think you have heaps of them around you.

 

[retodd]

http://instagr.am/p/B_HPgmunrdT/
It's probably a good idea to start talking with a shaper that has his eye on all aspects of the build

Dylan is similar height and weight to you

 

[griffinsurfboard]

Hopefully these variables are known to most shapers by now.

Its not Future Science Tech -

 

[sdsurfrat]

Well not sure if this is standard but after 8 surf only the deck is already full of compression, thought eps boards were stronger. In 3 months the board is going to be destroyed at that rate

What I do is laminate a patch of glass over the heavy compression area, it beefs it up.
You can actually use regular poly resin over Epoxy i found.
Just clean off the wax good, rough it up with 60 grit and then lam.
I had a varial blank that golf balled worse than yours and this helped a lot.

 

[Mat6920]

What I do is laminate a patch of glass over the heavy compression area, it beefs it up.
You can actually use regular poly resin over Epoxy i found.
Just clean off the wax good, rough it up with 60 grit and then lam.
I had a varial blank that golf balled worse than yours and this helped a lot.

Thanks for the tips but i wouldnt feel comfortable doing this. I emailed the Stacey guys with a photo and shared my honest opinion on the product, they said to bring it to the surf shop so they can chat together. If nothing happens then well I ll resell it for what it s worth and will not buy for them again . Next time I want an EPS I ll look for more info

 

[waxfoot]

http://instagr.am/p/B_HPgmunrdT/
It's probably a good idea to start talking with a shaper that has his eye on all aspects of the build

Dylan is similar height and weight to you

I was literally just about to post this.
When I picked up my two new shooters from him, for the now-cancelled Sumbawa trip, I had a fondle of his EPS/Epoxy models and they came out super light even with the heavy duty glassing. He has a "carbon rod" version too, but that's slightly heavier.

I may be considering getting the same fatboy EPS board too (thinking of the same boar he posted, but 5.10, 20, 2 9/16)

 

[Sharkbiscuit]

My kid has a Chilli with a similar build. The nose snapped and he is not even sure how it happened. When I looked at it the glass seemed paper thin. Thinner than what I would consider a standard glass job. Even the Chilli PU glass jobs are overly weak. I think on their site it says something about even using a layer of 2oz. Anyways, neither glass job is durable.

My point was at 185 you are probably going to put big dents in the deck with that stringerless lightweight build. All these big name shapers use the exact same stringerless EPS build and give it some bullshit name like Electralite or JS's Hyfi. These are bullshit weak builds with a strip of carbon that doesn't do anything for durability. Go find a shaper that will build a quality board rather than go brand name with the foofoo EPS "tech." I would think you have heaps of them around you.

I've got OP by a solid 50# and my Black Dart has very little denting as does my Corevac. Aviso also held up well for me, although I never hit it hard enough to ding, the deck denting was 0.

I think not all stringerless EPS are created equal. Corevac I guess is more of a regional Florida thing, but Black Dart I think maybe Californians can get that without too much trouble?

 

[freeride76]

Do you mean that Glass lab's EPS / Epoxy are good or not?
My standard PU boards frmo them have held up incredibly well, but I've not yet had EPS/Epoxy from them?

Sorry I mean the pu/pe.

they've been really well made.

 

[waxfoot]

Sorry I mean the pu/pe.

they've been really well made.

Yea, this is consistent with my experience with surfing 2 Pyzels that came out of that factory. Come to think of it, my brother in law is a 6.4 95KG unit, and surfs a Hammo stringered PU with epoxy resin board (also glassed. by the glass lab), and is also holding up really well.

 

[Mat6920]

To close the chapter, the guys at Stacey are happy to send me a new one as they are surprised this is happening considering the feedback they had over the last few years on the board. Great customer service. I m happy they give me the benefit of the doubt

 

[waxfoot]

To close the chapter, the guys at Stacey are happy to send me a new one as they are surprised this is happening considering the feedback they had over the last few years on the board. Great customer service. I m happy they give me the benefit of the doubt

Great customer service, and result for you.

 

[Aruka]

shoot, what am I gonna do with this torch and pitchfork now?

 

[waxfoot]

shoot, what am I gonna do with this torch and pitchfork now?

Point it in Gary McNeill's direction?