Mexican cartels seize the avocado industry...

[JBerry]

Mexican Mafia has been involved in the Avo industry for a long time. Especially here in CA.
In-laws ranch and surrounding groves were getting raked annually. Right when they thought they had a good crop to pick, gone! Their dog was shot left for dead. Trees gone bare overnight. It’s been 20 years, but has subsided on their prop a lot because they were able to tighten up fencing.They’ve gotten away from the Avo and into other things. Too stressful to deal with. It’ll just get worse as time goes on. Weed industry is probably hurting them so they just switched to Avo.

 

[Autoprax]

If I read the article right it was an explanation of the reach of organized criminal elements in every day life. If you do business, with very few exceptions, you pay. People that substance fish out of pangas pay 1,000 pesos a week and then pay 15% on what they catch and sell. Or else they shoot you like they shot 2 guys that lived in front of us in town last Friday.

This guy

Carlos Rosales Mendoza - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

ran the show up in Michoacán. They got a piece of everything. The place where they trained the comando guys is about a mile from our house. With nothing in between but bush.

So they didn't want to pay?

I wonder how long it takes of not paying before they come kill you.

 

[Woke AF]

The corruption goes back to Cortez the killer. Coming from the USA it takes a long time to understand it but there it is. It’s in their DNA.

I believe it. Something about the Spanish, something really fcking dark.

 

[grapedrink]

So they didn't want to pay?

I wonder how long it takes of not paying before they come kill you.

Not sure if this is the case with the poster, but there used to be organized avocado theft. Which is why a lot of groves have high tech security.

Now you have trouble simply paying people to pick them legally, so I'm not sure if criminals are even bothering with it anymore.

 

[ElOgro]

So they didn't want to pay?

I wonder how long it takes of not paying before they come kill you.

Nobody wants to pay.

In their case the second visit one guy got shot in the hand as a warning shot, third trip they shot a guy in the head because they didn’t understand the second visit. This was over 10 days.

 

[MitchellC]

I believe it. Something about the Spanish, something really fcking dark.

The Spanish? It might be helpful if you studied a little bit of history, as well as researched some basic components of human psychology, especially master-slave relationships.

For example:
1. The Opium wars - won by the British. Forced the Chinese to cede Hong Kong, and allow shipments of opium from GB's Indian colonies.

Opium Wars - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

2. Belgian Congo - recalcitrant workers had their hands cut off if they refused to work.

Atrocities in the Congo Free State - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

These are just two mere examples, but you could build a library based on the inevitable outcomes when power is unevenly matched.

With respect to Spaniards, they came from a region which had been fighting the Moors (Moslems) for centuries. No quarter was asked nor expected. The typical result if one were captured by the Moors was to be enslaved as a galley oarsmen; if you were lucky.

Imagine their frame of mind when the Spanish engaged illiterate, unsophisticated stone age savages? They naturally went ape sh!t crazy, fvcking everything, stealing everything, and pretty much having their way until they were completely exhausted.

It's what people do - it's how the bald ape is genetically programmed. It doesn't matter if it was ancient Egyptians or modern day sports stars. Given an unequal power relationship, those in control will let loose every primeval instinct until stopped.

Mexico is the natural result of this dynamic. Same is true throughout S America, Africa, India (caste system anyone - LOL regarding its "prohibition"), China (Chicom party body parts harvesting anyone?). Europe isn't immune either - consider what happened to native Anglos when William conquered England. Same true for French and Russian royalty - people go crazy with power/blood lust when they hold absolute control.

 

[ElOgro]

I believe it. Something about the Spanish, something really fcking dark.

It wasn’t all rainbows and free unicorn rides before the Spanish showed up, but yeah. Back then there was a feudal tribute system (along with the sacrifice of young virgins) that was the same trickle up deal that politics have been about here.

 

[ElOgro]

The Spanish? It might be helpful if you studied a little bit of history, as well as researched some basic components of human psychology, especially master-slave relationships.

For example:
1. The Opium wars - won by the British. Forced the Chinese to cede Hong Kong, and allow shipments of opium from GB's Indian colonies.

Opium Wars - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

2. Belgian Congo - recalcitrant workers had their hands cut off if they refused to work.

Atrocities in the Congo Free State - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

These are just two mere examples, but you could build a library based on the inevitable outcomes when power is unevenly matched.

With respect to Spaniards, they came from a region which had been fighting the Moors (Moslems) for centuries. No quarter was asked nor expected. The typical result if one were captured by the Moors was to be enslaved as a galley oarsmen; if you were lucky.

Imagine their frame of mind when the Spanish engaged illiterate, unsophisticated stone age savages? They naturally went ape sh!t crazy, fvcking everything, stealing everything, and pretty much having their way until they were completely exhausted.

It's what people do - it's how the bald ape is genetically programmed. It doesn't matter if it was ancient Egyptians or modern day sports stars. Given an unequal power relationship, those in control will let loose every primeval instinct until stopped.

Mexico is the natural result of this dynamic. Same is true throughout S America, Africa, India (caste system anyone - LOL regarding its "prohibition"), China (Chicom party body parts harvesting anyone?). Europe isn't immune either - consider what happened to native Anglos when William conquered England. Same true for French and Russian royalty - people go crazy with power/blood lust when they hold absolute control.

You do any research on the Irish?

 

[Woke AF]

The Spanish? It might be helpful if you studied a little bit of history, as well as researched some basic components of human psychology, especially master-slave relationships.

For example:
1. The Opium wars - won by the British. Forced the Chinese to cede Hong Kong, and allow shipments of opium from GB's Indian colonies.

Opium Wars - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

2. Belgian Congo - recalcitrant workers had their hands cut off if they refused to work.

Atrocities in the Congo Free State - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

These are just two mere examples, but you could build a library based on the inevitable outcomes when power is unevenly matched.

With respect to Spaniards, they came from a region which had been fighting the Moors (Moslems) for centuries. No quarter was asked nor expected. The typical result if one were captured by the Moors was to be enslaved as a galley oarsmen; if you were lucky.

Imagine their frame of mind when the Spanish engaged illiterate, unsophisticated stone age savages? They naturally went ape sh!t crazy, fvcking everything, stealing everything, and pretty much having their way until they were completely exhausted.

It's what people do - it's how the bald ape is genetically programmed. It doesn't matter if it was ancient Egyptians or modern day sports stars. Given an unequal power relationship, those in control will let loose every primeval instinct until stopped.

Mexico is the natural result of this dynamic. Same is true throughout S America, Africa, India (caste system anyone - LOL regarding its "prohibition"), China (Chicom party body parts harvesting anyone?). Europe isn't immune either - consider what happened to native Anglos when William conquered England. Same true for French and Russian royalty - people go crazy with power/blood lust when they hold absolute control.

talk about Cherry Picking history.
Explaining away 1000's of years of cultural and human interaction/development w/ two aspects and saying that is what has caused the manifestation modern Mexico. Another simpleton who understands the world by saying humans are inherently bad.
Also who has never experienced a Spanish female.

 

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yes but you are missing the point. That at some point the citizenry turned a blind-eye or felt helpless to corruption and the rule of law. That is a form of acceptance which has lead to the gov losing it's power and legitimacy.

only European colonization can fix Mexico because they sure can’t do themselves.

 

[Woke AF]

only European colonization can fix Mexico because they sure can’t do themselves.

now that is an original thought which has not happened before

 

[_____]

I'm guessing cops aren't really arresting people for hauling and slinging 50 pallets of avocados down there with the other stuff going on. Less risk, lots of money. Cartel aren't a bunch of dum dumz.

 

[TeamScam]

If you eat avacados, they will die. Americans ruin everything.

 

[casa_mugrienta]

The corruption goes back to Cortez the killer. Coming from the USA it takes a long time to understand it but there it is. It’s in their DNA.

Waitwhat!???

BUT THE erBB TAUGHT ME THE SORROWS OF MEJICO AND CENTRAL AMERICA WAS ALL THE FAULT OF LOS ESTADOS UNIDOS!!!

 

[ElOgro]

Waitwhat!???

BUT THE erBB TAUGHT ME THE SORROWS OF MEJICO AND CENTRAL AMERICA WAS ALL THE FAULT OF LOS ESTADOS UNIDOS!!!

I’m not sure what you were looking for when you started this thread. Attention?

 

[VeganSurfer]

Inside the bloody cartel war for Mexico's multibillion-dollar avocado industry

As long as we all have a healthy supply of animal-free options this is fine by me. I will NEVER pay someone to hold animals prisoner, defile their bodies and then take their lives. Any suffering by a small handful of human beings pales in comparison to the BILLIONS of animals tortured, raped and MURDERED every year! There are only two options: continue to fund mass animal suffering or stop paying for the need to feed on dead animal bodies, which have been PROVEN in scientific studies to cause illness and death and contribute to climate change among other things, unlike "knowledge" acquired from animal agriculture industry marketing slogans which aren't based on science or fact.

 

[grapedrink]

As long as we all have a healthy supply of animal-free options this is fine by me. I will NEVER pay someone to hold animals prisoner, defile their bodies and then take their lives. Any suffering by a small handful of human beings pales in comparison to the BILLIONS of animals tortured, raped and MURDERED every year! There are only two options: continue to fund mass animal suffering or stop paying for the need to feed on dead animal bodies, which have been PROVEN in scientific studies to cause illness and death and contribute to climate change among other things, unlike "knowledge" acquired from animal agriculture industry marketing slogans which aren't based on science or fact.

Troll fail.

 

[Ifallalot]

Their multi-decade tolerance of bribery and corruption has pretty much doomed them.

Mexico has never been stable

 

[Your Moms Dildo]

As long as we all have a healthy supply of animal-free options this is fine by me. I will NEVER pay someone to hold animals prisoner, defile their bodies and then take their lives. Any suffering by a small handful of human beings pales in comparison to the BILLIONS of animals tortured, raped and MURDERED every year! There are only two options: continue to fund mass animal suffering or stop paying for the need to feed on dead animal bodies, which have been PROVEN in scientific studies to cause illness and death and contribute to climate change among other things, unlike "knowledge" acquired from animal agriculture industry marketing slogans which aren't based on science or fact.

How many handles does fecal have?

 

[VeganSurfer]

Troll fail.

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