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plan. “Donald Trump, keep your hands off our drugs" #2996340
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And "Welcome, to the socialist paradise of Canada, Mr. Trump.”


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who doesn't like free shit. everyone does, including conservatives

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I don't know a conservative who doesn't love sucking off the government teat.

I think they feel like they are getting back that which was taken away.


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Originally Posted by Autoprax
I don't know a conservative who doesn't love sucking off the government teat.

I think they feel like they are getting back that which was taken away.

Of course they deserve it, everybody else not so much.

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Originally Posted by JEwing
And "Welcome, to the socialist paradise of Canada, Mr. Trump.”



Canadians are Hopping Mad About Trump’s Drug Importation Plan. Some of them are Trying to Stop It.

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Source: STAT

Canadians are furious about the Trump administration’s plan to import their prescription drugs. And some of them are determined to stop the proposal in its tracks.

Trump’s plan, which was announced late last month, would allow states, wholesalers, and pharmacies to import cheaper drugs from Canada. It’s a long way off from being implemented, but Canadians are baffled that America would look north to lower its own drug prices, and indignant that such a plan could exacerbate an already pressing drug shortage issue plaguing the country.

“You are coming as Americans to poach our drug supply, and I don’t have any polite words for that,” said Amir Attaran, a professor at the University of Ottawa, who calls the plan “deplorable” and “atrociously unethical.” “Our drugs are not for you, period.”

In the face of opposition, Canada’s health minister will meet Monday with pharmacists, patients, and industry officials to discuss a response. The minister, Ginette Petitpas Taylor, has publicly pledged to “ensure there are no adverse effects to the supply or cost of prescription drugs in Canada.”

For the advocates likely to fill the room, that means stopping American businesses from importing Canadian drugs.

“It’s time for it to crash and burn,” said John Adams, the board chair of the Best Medicines Coalition, a coalition of Canadian patient advocacy organizations, who will be joining the meeting by phone. “Canadians may die.”

The meeting will almost certainly be just a first step in a long and complicated process potentially involving obscure trade laws, international treaties, and some cutthroat diplomacy.

In advance of that meeting, STAT spoke with nearly a dozen trade and health policy experts in Canada and the U.S. to determine how, exactly, Canadians could thwart Trump’s plan — and how drug makers might just thwart it.


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why doesn't the great dealmaker make a deal like the Canadians have....?


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The Canadian deal is just an attempt to make an end run around the regulation and the protections our government has given to Big Pharma and which directly enable their pricing here in the U.S.. You can't make a deal when the legislation is directly impeding it.


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Originally Posted by afoaf
why doesn't the great dealmaker make a deal like the Canadians have....?


You already know why.


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Originally Posted by GDaddy
The Canadian deal is just an attempt to make an end run around the regulation and the protections our government has given to Big Pharma and which directly enable their pricing here in the U.S.. You can't make a deal when the legislation is directly impeding it.


I'm saying why don't our legislators do what the Canadian legislators did instead of making a stupid end-run like this?

(answer: campaign contributions)

(edit: Joe gets it)

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The grass roots push back is being organized by a group of Canadian middle men who profit from Americans who are already buying drugs from them in Canada. They would have to compete with another buyer (Uncle Sam) who could effectively put them out of business.

Campaign contributions are spread pretty evenly, I remember seeing a list of sorts.


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yes, this is not a partisan issue at all. everyone's in on the take.


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Now this is where the news orgs could make some headway in public opinion, by looking into and reporting the money and lobbying these pharma companies (and others) are giving to these politicians and making those donations toxic. Same with their lobbying at the regulatory levels.

That would do more for the public's interests than fixating on the culture wars to the exclusion of everything else.


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Originally Posted by GDaddy
Now this is where the news orgs could make some headway in public opinion, by looking into and reporting the money and lobbying these pharma companies (and others) are giving to these politicians and making those donations toxic. Same with their lobbying at the regulatory levels.

That would do more for the public's interests than fixating on the culture wars to the exclusion of everything else.

They do and are called Librul Socialists.


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