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Re: Rusty Twin- Opinions? [Re: 92122] #2985996
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Originally Posted by 92122

If the discussion is instead about one shaper leading the development on a certain model and it being a much different style board than others under the same brand, well, I don’t think that’s anything uncommon. You could have a single shaper under a brand coming out with different models that are of very different style.


The above is what it's about.

Usually experienced shapers have certain ways they like to do things.

"This works better"/"That doesn't work" etc.

It shows in the way they design boards.

A particular flavor. (you can see this in STAB in the dark, where surfers are sometimes able to pick out who shaped what without a logo on the board.)

When there are a lot of guys designing boards under a label you might want to see/feel a board in person before ordering.

That is all.

Nothing to do with quality and consistency of ghostshapers - that was just poison inserted into the thread by the usual suspect.




Re: Rusty Twin- Opinions? [Re: manbearpig] #2986014
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Tangentially related but Casa are you a 100% short board or die guy?
I keep trying friends Alts and occasionally i have fun but I always just feel like im not at full potential.
I feel like a good twin / twinzer might smooth out my style when I am back on a thruster?

any thoughts?

I feel like rusty has tightened their operation recently. Been hearing more good things than I was a few years back.


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Re: Rusty Twin- Opinions? [Re: Waterlogged05] #2986017
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Originally Posted by Waterlogged05
Tangentially related but Casa are you a 100% short board or die guy?
I keep trying friends Alts and occasionally i have fun but I always just feel like im not at full potential.



Yes.

Alts are for one's golden years or people who never surf.

Standard shortboard is much better for the shoulders too.

I have keel fish I ride maybe once or twice a year.

Re: Rusty Twin- Opinions? [Re: casa_mugrienta] #2986082
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Originally Posted by casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted by Waterlogged05
Tangentially related but Casa are you a 100% short board or die guy?
I keep trying friends Alts and occasionally i have fun but I always just feel like im not at full potential.



Yes.

Alts are for one's golden years or people who never surf.

Standard shortboard is much better for the shoulders too.

I have keel fish I ride maybe once or twice a year.


Not true.

Alts can be just as high performance as a standard hpsb. shocked2


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Re: Rusty Twin- Opinions? [Re: jkb] #2986101
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Originally Posted by jkb
Originally Posted by casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted by Waterlogged05
Tangentially related but Casa are you a 100% short board or die guy?
I keep trying friends Alts and occasionally i have fun but I always just feel like im not at full potential.



Yes.

Alts are for one's golden years or people who never surf.

Standard shortboard is much better for the shoulders too.

I have keel fish I ride maybe once or twice a year.


Not true.

Alts can be just as high performance as a standard hpsb. shocked2


What are we defining as "alt"?

Re: Rusty Twin- Opinions? [Re: manbearpig] #2986113
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For our case, let's call it a non traditional shortboard.

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JKB actually popped into my head when discussing alts because he shreds that Gmm2 but thats about as HPSB as an alt gets imo?


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These alts are very high performance.



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Originally Posted by jkb
Originally Posted by casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted by Waterlogged05
Tangentially related but Casa are you a 100% short board or die guy?
I keep trying friends Alts and occasionally i have fun but I always just feel like im not at full potential.



Yes.

Alts are for one's golden years or people who never surf.

Standard shortboard is much better for the shoulders too.

I have keel fish I ride maybe once or twice a year.


Not true.

Alts can be just as high performance as a standard hpsb. shocked2


In an ideal world I'd be riding my short board thruster every session, only switching it up to keep things interesting. In the real world I don't get to surf good waves every session and since my main goal is to have fun and I'm not grinding for points on the QS I have no qualms about riding "alt" equipment if it's going to allow me to have more fun by catching and making more waves, surfing with more speed, experiencing new sensations and so on. Sure, there might be some adjustment if I surf my twin fish for 2 weeks strait and then hop back on my hpsb but honestly I freaking love surfing my twin and I think it's helped my surfing overall by teaching me how to better pump and turn off the rails and it allows me to slow down and surf a little more relaxed in weak waves rather than having to just constantly work for speed. Not to mention, having some options just allows me to surf more, which is better than not surfing at all. I can't even count the number I've times I've been out on my thruster, having a good session and then the tide starts to flood or the swell is fading and suddenly there just isn't the power and steepness to really get going and do a good turn so I go in and grab my fish and come back out and have a total blast for another couple hours. A few years ago I would have just stuck it out, probably had a crap last half of my session or just called it early and gone in.

I will say though, finding some alt boards that I clicked with was a process and at first I went too oversized with a couple and I hated it. Now I stick near my normal volume and make sure the rails are still near to what I like on my HPSB and just rely on the extra width and low rocker to give me the glide I want.

Re: Rusty Twin- Opinions? [Re: jkb] #2986164
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Originally Posted by jkb
For our case, let's call it a non traditional shortboard.


OK, then I agree.

Most of the above stuff is just variations on HPSBs.

Short, lower volume, not too wide, goes rail to rail easy, etc...

When I think "alt" I think Mandala, Christenson, higher volume hipster inspired stuff.

Nowdays I try to stay away from stuff other than trad thrusters because I don't have the money to play around and experiment.

As for the alt stuff as I was thinking of it, I stand by the statement you have the your golden years to play around with that stuff.



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