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Re: Breaking news...Canada just declared war... [Re: Q_Surf] #931090
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...Quebecois as opposed to francais...




my first name is quint and i have never taken any french, but i do speak "quench" (trademark protected).

whenever i travel to french speaking regions and quaff hearty vessels of fermented libatious substances, i can masterfully feign the french accent (but speaking english) to such a successful degree that the locals may be unawares they are speaking to their sworn nemesis - an american!

i began doing this because many of them have a difficult time following our english w/o the strong accent, pauses, lip pursings, and mmmm/ooooouuh sounds. i have met many french who have complimented me on this ability (which honestly stems from my dog-brained pace of learning new languages).




Nice! I haven't mastered this skill yet. It always comes out with a spanish accent no matter what I try. waterbaby laughs at me. The only time I can get close is if I purse my lips and take a rubberband and wrap it around them and speak in an excited manner with one arm on my hip and the other waving circles in the air.


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...The only time I can get close is if I purse my lips and take a rubberband and wrap it around them and speak in an excited manner with one arm on my hip and the other waving circles in the air.




sounds like you might be coming off like this?


wow, posting this makes me feel like drinking mint julips, using phrases like "war of northern aggression" while waiving 'ol dixie.


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I know they've declared war on everybody's favorite 1% Motorcyle Club, The Hells Angels:

"In the province of Quebec, Canada, the Hells Angels have gained immense notoriety. Police claim that the club controls much of the organized crime in the province. Criminologists believe that the 1970s Royal Commission on Organized Crime (CECO: Commission d'Enqutes sur le Crime Organis), formed to combat the Montreal based mafia, allowed the Hells Angels to flourish by greatly reducing would-be competitors. Before the commission, the Hells Angels were reputed to be the thugs of the Montreal mafia, but in the power vacuum left in the wake of the commission, the Hells Angels managed to effectively gain control of much of the crime in the province. In the years following 1994, biker wars in the province have resulted in more than 100 deaths (including a child killed by an exploding car bomb), 84 bombings, 130 reported cases of arson, and nine missing persons. In the fall of 2001, The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) and the Sret du Qubec conducted major raids in many different locations of the province. Many high-ranking members were arrested along with prospects and other associates. The operation was codenamed Printemps 2001 (Spring 2001). Members arrested during the operation subsequently pleaded guilty to various crimes, from drug traffic to plot for murder, others were condemned on various accounts.

Despite the continued growth of Hells Angels clubs in Canada, both in Quebec and in Ontario, various law enforcement agencies continue to crack down on the organization. While some consider Canada to be the unofficial home to a new modern Hells Angels movementone based on the original tenets of the club (i.e., protection for those who cannot protect themselves)the organization continues to face opposition from police forces and other elements of Canadian society.

The clubhouse for the Toronto chapter of the Hells Angels is located at 498 Eastern Ave, in Toronto's east end, and is significant because of its corporate ownership. Recently, there have been questions raised about the legal status of the club's motorcycle parking outside of the clubhouse. See http://www.torontofokus.com

In March 2005, Route 81the official store of the Hells Angelsopened an outlet in Prince Edward Island to join existing outlets in Moncton, Halifax and Toronto. The numbers '8' and '1' correspond to where the letters 'H' and 'A' fall within the alphabet.

On June 30, 2005, the Ontario Superior Court of Justice released its verdict in the Lindsay Bonner matter, which concerned the trial of two Hells Angels members charged with extortion in association with a criminal organization. The court ruled that the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club is a criminal organization, I am satisfied beyond a reasonable doubt that during the time period specified in count two of the indictment, the HAMC as it existed in Canada was a criminal organization. I am satisfied beyond a reasonable doubt that both Mr. Lindsay and Mr. Bonner committed the offence of extortion in association with that criminal organization. wrote Fuerst J., in conclusion, R. v. Lindsay, 2005.

In January 2006, Operation Husky resulted[4] in the arrest of twenty-seven suspects, including five 'full-patch' Angels from across Eastern and Central Canada.

Media speculation has suggested that this operation, an effort conducted by a combination of agencies including the RCMP, the Ontario Provincial Police (OPP) and the Sret du Qubec may result in the end of the club's presence in Canada. In some parts of Canada, it is illegal to wear symbols identifying yourself with a motorcycle club, while symbols of identification and recognition among other groups are permitted because of a failure by law enforcement to recognize the credentials and identifying symbols of gang culture".


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Nothing like a good biker war to attract tourism!

Some more info on the nice Canadien Disco speaks of (I especially like the last sentence) :



Yves Trudeau, known as Apache and The Mad Bumper, was born in the mid 1940s. Standing five-foot-six and weighing 135 pounds, Trudeau didnt look like the prototypical biker, but that did not stop him from becoming the Hells Angels most prolific killer to date.

Trudeau became a founding member of the Hells Angels in Quebec in 1977, when the Popeyes became the official Montreal Chapter for the internationally renowned biker club.

The Montreal Chapter eventually grew so large that Trudeau and others broke away in September 1979 to form the North Chapter, based in Laval. The group would become known for its violent and reckless behaviour and excessive drug use.

Trudeau was no exception. In one three-week span, the biker spent $60,000 on cocaine. During another week, he wasted $25,000 on the drug.

The biker has admitted to killing 43 people from September 73 to July 1985. His talent in the ruthless trade earned him the filthy few patch, awarded to members who have killed for the gang. He was the first Canadian Hells Angel to earn the decoration.

Trudeaus first victim was Jean-Marie Viel, shot to death in Trois-Rivieres in 1970 after he made the mistake of stealing a motorcycle from the Popeyes.

Others soon followed. Among them were Donald McLean, a member of the rival Outlaws gang, and his girlfriend Carmen Piche, blown up in May 1980 when a bomb attached to McLeans Harley Davidson exploded.

Jeanne Desjardins, a grandmother, was killed in February 1980 for trying to help her son, ex-Hells Angel Andre Desjardins. Trudeau battered her to death and then killed her son and his girlfriend. The bodies of the latter two were dumped in the St. Lawrence River.

Michel Desormiers, a brother-in-law of reputed mob boss Frank Cotroni, was gunned down in July 1983. He had reportedly been the driver in a hit carried out by the Hells Angels. The killing was supposedly cleared with members of the Montreal Mafia first.

Reputed West End Gang member Hugh Patrick McGurnaghan was blown to shreds in Westmount in October 1981, when a bomb planted his Mercedes-Benz detonated. Trudeau later said West End Gang chieftain Frank Peter Dunie Ryan had hired him to commit the murder.

Even fellow Hells Angels werent safe. Trudeau and other bikers killed Charlie Hachez, a member of the North Chapter, because he had a heavy drug problem and owed Dunie Ryan almost $150,000 in drug money. Hachez was lured to a meeting, killed, and his body dumped in the St. Lawrence River.

And when Dunie Ryan was himself murdered, Trudeau was hired to take care of business. He and fellow Hells Angels hitman Michel Blass delivered a television set stuffed with explosives to the apartment where Ryans alleged killers were holed up. The thundering explosion ripped through the building. Four people died and eight others were injured.

Trudeau claimed that Allan The Weasel Ross had offered to pay him $200,000 to eliminate Ryans killers. Afterward the murders though, Ross supposedly told Trudeau to collect the cash from the Hells Angels Montreal Chapter and the 13th Tribe of Halifax, who would become a Hells chapter shortly thereafter, both of whom had owed Ryan large sums of drug money.

The Mad Bumper said he approached the Montreal Chapter about payment but they refused. This only added to the resentment many Hells Angels already felt towards members of the North Chapter.

Other Hells Angels felt that the North Chapter bikers were too wild and uncontrollable. They often used drugs they were supposed to sell and were suspected of screwing other chapters out of dope profits.

A meeting was scheduled at the Sherbrooke Chapters clubhouse. At that gathering, five members of the North Chapter were shot to death, wrapped in sleeping bags, and dumped in the St. Lawrence River. A few others were allowed to live and were absorbed into the Montreal Chapter.

Trudeau was supposed to be at that meeting, but had enrolled in a detoxification program shortly before. He later said he wanted to clean himself up, because he knew what happened to members who were always stoned.

News of the North Chapter slaughter soon reached Trudeau at the centre. He even received a visit from Normal Biff Hamel, a then-prospect with the Montreal Chapter. Trudeau was told that he was out of the gang and would have to have his gang tattoos removed.

After being released from the detoxification program, Trudeau discovered that the Hells Angels had taken his motorcycle and $46,000 in cash that belonged to him from the North Chapter clubhouse. They said they would return the bike if he killed two people for the gang.

Trudeau succeeded in bumping off one of the targets. Jean-Marc Deniger is killed in May 1985 and stuffed in his car. Satisfied, the Hells Angels gave Trudeau his motorcycle back.

But Trudeau knew he was living on borrowed time. The Hells Angels had taken out a $50,000 contract on his head. He decided to switch sides and became a government witness. He wasnt alone either: biker thugs Michel Blass, Gilles Le Nez Lachane, and Gerry Le Chat" Coulombe also became informants.

Trudeau pleaded guilty to 43 killings, and spilled the beans on 40 other murders and 15 attempted murders. He was sentenced to life imprisonment. Under his deal, the government reportedly gave him $40,000 over the next four years and gave him about $35 a week for cigarettes.

He was released after seven years in prison and has been resettled under a different name.


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I can clearly remember a MC gang called the Earth Angels that were from around Maillardville circa 1955 or so. They had full dresser Harleys... and a couple of old Indians too as I recall....wore black leather jackets and had a white skull with red wings on their backs, same as the HA's basically.
I remember one year they tagged on to the back of the May Day parade that wound its way through the District before ending up at Blue Mountain Park. Lots of mumbling from our parents but all us 10 or 11 year old kids thought they were neat.
I also remember counting 89 bikes parked outside one day at Parks Cafe, on Brunette Ave near Makin Park.
Ironically, today the local chapter of the Hell's Angels has their clubhouse next door to that cafe.
I also remember the Catwalkers from Burnaby, the 101 Knights from Powell River, the Bounty Hunters from Victoria and a failed attempt to establish a Satan's Choice presence here in Campbell River in the early '70's.
It was funny watching a couple of wannabe's getting their asses handed to them by a few local loggers outside the Quinsam Hotel that night.
Never saw anyone wearing a Satan's Choice patch around here after that, but lots of different patches still seen during the annual poker run for kids held locally.
'Course the Nanaimo Chapter is doing pretty good these days I hear (Hell's Angels)as they seem to be enjoying a good business relationship with our local Vietnamese dealers, far as I can tell.
One day I'll tell you about the time the Bounty Hunters came to the country western weekend hootenanny at the old Jordan River Hotel, back in 1977 or '78 I think.
Good times.



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Yep, I remember most of all that or at least it rings a bell. Obviously I'm not as up-to-date as you nor as familiar with all that happened back east, but in the course of my years here I've seen a few bikers come and go......or patch over.

Speaking of big bikers, used to be a guy named Brian Binns, of the Burnaby trucking company Binns's, who belonged to one of the Lower Mainland groups who was the epitome of a big fat biker guy.
I used to encounter him and a few of his pals on the ferries when I was travelling over to Sechelt from VanIsle during the '60's. He was short and 300 lbs plus. I remember him wearing one of those old WWI German Army helmets with the spike on the top as his lid, mandatory by then.
I seem to recall he and some other guys got into trouble because they beat up some off-duty cops who were partying down on Anniccis Island.
I heard it cost his Dad a lot of money that time.

Funniest thing ever though, was one day coming off the ferry at Langdale when his bike wouldn't start. I was back at the end of the line having just made the ferry at Horseshoe Bay and watched the whole performance. He ended up pushing it off the ferry and down the gangway to the parking lot, and it was absolutely pissing rain and howling SE too.
I was in my GTO so it was after 1970 sometime.
I think I may have already told about the time the Bounty Hunters camped on the beach at Long Beach back in 1973.
That was pretty funny to watch too.
Couple of years later they came out to JR for the three day country western giant piss-up party sponsored by the old JR Hotel.
Free joints to all who wanted one, absolutely no fights at all over the pool table, and only a couple of them insisted on riding their bikes through the Pub and out the back cafe.
I think a guy on a horse did that too.
That weekend is still a bit hazy but I do believe a good time was had by all.

Nowadays it's all HAMC/BC Bud/Cocaine here in BC it seems.
Thats all we ever hear about anyway.

And I did read The Devil's Butler many moons ago.
Not a nice bunch at all. I still wince when I think of the broomstick thing.

Anyway, got little time for this BB these days as I'm currently hand-feeding 31 baby birds several times a day as well as all the attendant chores that go along with that.


Awesome day here today weatherwise.
Hot early Fall day with no wind....just gorgeous views in every direction up here but strange to see the coast mountains so snow-free at this time. Usually by now there would have been at least one Fall storm and some snow would have fallen up there and stayed.
Nada there right now though.
Could be an interesting Winter methinks.


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Somewhat on topic - from today's news:

Nevada - A federal prosecutor used dramatic silent videotapes Tuesday to cast Hells Angels as members of a criminal racketeering ring who plotted and carried out a bloody attack on rival biker gang members at a Laughlin casino in 2002.

"The Hells Angels are an enterprise engaged in racketeering, with members dedicated to responding to any disrespect with violence," Assistant U.S. Attorney Eric Johnson told the jury as the trial of outlaw motorcycle gang members began.

"Ultimately what occurred was the Hells Angels went and decided to have a gang fight with their arch rivals at Harrah's casino," Johnson said.

Three people died and at least a dozen were injured the April 27, 2002, melee when leather-clad bikers wielded guns, knives, wrenches, hammers, fists, boots and chairs in a two-minute brawl that was recorded from at least a half-dozen angles by the Harrah's Laughlin hotel-casino's surveillance cameras.

Eleven men from California, Washington, Arizona, Alaska and Nevada were the first to go on trial in U.S. District Court in Las Vegas. Thirty-one other Hells Angels await trial on federal charges, and separate state charges are pending against eight of the men.

Each of the 42 members of the Hells Angels faces the possibility of life in prison if convicted of the most serious federal charge, racketeering attempted murder. Each has pleaded not guilty.

"Never have so many members of the most powerful motorcycle gang in the world been put on trial on such serious charges," said Julian Sher, the Montreal co-author of a book, "Angels of Death: Inside the Biker Gang's Crime Empire."

Johnson promised a broad prosecution of what he called "essentially a cult," with a disciplined and merciless gang structure based on drug-running, turf warfare and violence.

The prosecutor said former Hells Angels members and undercover law enforcement officers will testify that gang rules and a culture that require "meeting any gesture of disrespect toward an individual or the club with an overwhelming response" led to brawl at the 20th annual Laughlin River Run motorcycle rally.

"This wasn't self-defense," Johnson declared, anticipating arguments that defense lawyers said they will make when trial resumes Wednesday and they offer opening statements. "Tensions were high. The Hells Angels, as a group, brought the fight to (the Mongols) at the hotel."

The prosecutor relied heavily on repeated loops of video - enhanced by zooming in and other special effects. Arrows were superimposed to follow individuals through the seething mass of leather vests who battled amid rows of glittering casino slot machines.

Bikers on both sides are shown pointing and firing guns. Others punch, stab and kick each other. One Hells Angels member wearing a black helmet and sunglasses clobbers a passing Mongols member in the head with a wrench.

Johnson promised to prove all 32 charges against each of the 11 Hells Angels, who sat quietly in court, most wearing shirts and ties and subtle gang markers.

Several club members wearing vests and club insignia cleared metal detectors at the courthouse lobby and again at the courtroom door to view the proceedings.

Defense lawyer David Chesnoff, who represents defendant Calvin Schaefer of Chandler, Ariz., ended the day by imploring U.S. District Judge James Mahan to remind the jury of seven women, five men and six alternates to await testimony and evidence before making decisions about guilt.

"Openings are one-sided," said another defense lawyer, Tom Pitaro, who showed colleagues outside court a poster-sized photo of Robert Emmet Tumelty, 50, a Hells Angel from Stockton, Calif., who was shot and killed in the casino brawl.

Another Hells Angel, Jeramie Dean Bell, 27, of Hughson, Calif., and Mongols member Anthony Salvador Barrera, 43, of Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., also died.

"In the next couple of days, we'll answer," Pitaro said. "We'll explain everything."


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Since this has turned into a motorcycle gang post heres a little story.

I was nearly stabbed by a Hells Angel at the Kraken one evening. When I waited tables we used to walk over to the Kraken for a beer after work, my wifes cousin was often there and is a member of the Hells Angels. He is a huge guy and one night we walked into the bar and he was facing away from me so I ran up behind him and jumped up on his back , I didnt notice the another biker guy five feet away who was ready to stick his knife into me. Turns out he was a pledge/recruit for the gang and his job was to watch the back of the member he was assigned to. Luckily I was spun away from him and my wifes cousin put him at ease before he made me a pin cushion. We dont see that cousin much anymore as he became a two strike offender in Ca. so he moved to Nevada and is a member of the vegas chapter.

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Tanner, you are going to love the new movie coming out where Mel Gibson plays the role of an undercover cop who penetrated the Mongol Nation.
True story.




Sounds interesting, for sure, Disco - thanks for the heads up.

Did a quick google search to get some info, and found that the story was first a book (which I guess Gibson bought the rights to).

Background of movie (which sounds like it might include something on the Laughlin brawl):


In 1998, William Queen was a veteran law enforcement agent with a lifelong love of motorcycles and a lack of patience with paperwork. When a confidential informant made contact with his boss at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, offering to take an agent inside the San Fernando chapter of the Mongols (the scourge of Southern California, and one of the most dangerous gangs in America), Queen jumped at the chance, not realizing that he was kicking-starting the most extensive undercover operation inside an outlaw motorcycle gang in the history of American law enforcement.

Nor did Queen suspect that he would penetrate the gang so successfully that he would become a fully patched-in member, eventually rising through their ranks to the office of treasurer, where he had unprecedented access to evidence of their criminal activity. After Queen spent twenty-eight months as Billy St. John, the bearded, beer-swilling, Harley-riding gang-banger, the truth of his identity became blurry, even to himself.

During his initial prospecting phase, Queen was at the mercy of crank-fueled criminal psychopaths who sought to have him test his mettle and prove his fealty by any means necessary, from selling (and doing) drugs, to arms trafficking, stealing motorcycles, driving getaway cars, and, in one shocking instance, stitching up the face of a Mongol ol lady after a particularly brutal beating at the hands of her boyfriend.

Yet despite the constant criminality of the gang, for whom planning cop killings and gang rapes were business as usual, Queen also came to see the genuine camaraderie they shared. When his lengthy undercover work totally isolated Queen from family, his friends, and ATF colleagues, the Mongols felt like the only family he had left. I had no doubt these guys genuinely loved Billy St. John and would have laid down their lives for him. But they wouldnt hesitate to murder Billy Queen.

From Queens first sleight of hand with a line of methamphetamine in front of him and a knife at his throat, to the fearsome face-off with their decades-old enemy, the Hells Angels (a brawl that left three bikers dead), to the heartbreaking scene of a father ostracized at Parents Night because his deranged-outlaw appearance precluded any interaction with regular citizens, Under and Alone is a breathless, adrenaline-charged read that puts you on the street with some of the most dangerous men in America and with the law enforcement agents who risk everything to bring them in.


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...do you think we'll ever read that headline?




a funny post sent to me this afternoon....

This is a story of self control and marksmanship with an itsy bitsy shooter by a woman against a fierce predator.

What is the smallest caliber you trust to protect yourself?

The Beretta Jetfire

<sorry I don't know how to embed a photo with the iPad>

While out hiking in Alberta Canada with my husband we were surprised by a huge grizzly bear charging at us from out of nowhere. She must have been protecting her cubs because she was extremely aggressive
If I had not had my little Beretta Jetfire with me I would not be here today!
Just one shot to my husbands knee cap was all it took. The bear got him and I was able to escape by just walking away at a brisk pace..

It's one of the best pistols in my collection

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