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Whats wrong with this board?? #2996156
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Walked into a local shop down here in Florida and stumbled upon this gem of a board.
Shop worker noticed me checking out the board and when she asked if I needed any help I asked her what the deal was with the board and if it was on sale due to the obvious blemishes. She started to explain to me that the board was most likely intentionally done like that to give it a "rustic" type look. Manager heard what was going on and confirmed the board was jacked up. he offered me 25 dollars off...

Can some one identify what exactly happened with this board?

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Over Sanded?


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$25 off? LMAO

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oversanded and/or somewhere the cloth didnt saturate.

eps + the color blue seem to always show that more than any other combo.

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Yah thats what I was thinking also. I'm kinda fed up with the company for other reasons but I wanted to get a second opinion before I put the them on blast for trying to sell this board at almost full price.

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Holy sand-throughs Batman! That should be at least $100 off...

Re: Whats wrong with this board?? [Re: Osprey321] #2996178
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Ron Jon special $25 off roflmao


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Re: Whats wrong with this board?? [Re: rowjimmytour] #2996182
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Would the board even be worth it if say hypothetically I did buy it for what I consider to be a good deal??

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i guarantee you've had a million clear white boards with worse burn throughs that you either either didnt notice or were taken care of with a rattle can of clear coat.

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Dont they do that to be "Artsy"? Id go for it

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Open weave seeps moisture. If there's an intact layer below the top layer then it's no big deal, but sometimes the sand-throughs go into the bottom layer.

The reason for the oversanding might be related to the laps from the bottom lam (which on shortboards is normally done first) not getting knocked down enough prior to the deck lam going over it, thus raising a lip at the lapline that gets sanded off in order to bring the deck flush. They're sanding through the deck lamination to level out the bump.

It is a real common thing and they're right when they say that some of your clear boards have also been oversanded. Sometimes these get covered with a clear coat or a sealer, but with sanded finishes they usually just leave it.

One way to check for sand throughs in the future is to hold the board up horizonatally to a light source like a shop window or even an overhead light and look across the deck at a slight angle so you can see the finish. Any sand throughs will show up as a weave whereas the areas that still have resin over them will look "sanded".

For my personal boards I actually laminate the deck first and bring the bottom lap onto the deck with a cutlap. I usually don't even sand the deck except with a few passes of 220 to knock down any bumps. I sand my rails to the lapline by hand, using long strokes from end-to-end. You're not surfing the deck - you're covering it with wax so the finish doesn't matter. Leaving the deck "raw" and undisturbed actually makes it a little stronger anyway.


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Re: Whats wrong with this board?? [Re: Osprey321] #2996246
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There is no way I would put my logo on a board that looked like that and put it in a shop. I'd ride it myself or give it away.


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Re: Whats wrong with this board?? [Re: Osprey321] #2996259
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What's the likelihood this wasn't glassed in house by whoever shaper was?

Is quality control better or worse with the inhouse guys?

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More importantly what is the resale on something looking like that?

I wouldn't throw more than $200 at it if I saw it on craigslist.

$25 off is a joke unless that brings it equal to the cost of it in materials.

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That board is probably magic.


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There is no excuse for a Board looking like that making it into a shop to sold. Who ever put their name on that board should be shared. The shop that put that Board in their racks should be shamed.
There are just too many Well made Boards to deal with a poor quality Boards.

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Originally Posted by Duffy
That board is probably magic.

LOL
Should have a bigger markdown. I think you should name the board label and shop. That's pretty poor all around.

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In the same vein as what 20w mentioned, a shaper once told me that glassing with epoxy when the humidity is high can do some strange things to a glass job.


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I'll add a touch of color to an epoxy lam to offset (or accentuate) the yellowing, but I refuse to try to do big tints or opaques in epoxy unless its as an abstract where I'm incorporating the imperfections in the cosmetics.

Volon finishes in the fiberglass leave a nice even light green tint that "yellows" well over time. Plus you get to see the weave.


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I picked up a new Tokoro last Friday. There was a blemish in the blank, probably an air bubble. It was filled in with resin but noticeable. I joked look my board has a blem. They would’ve rushed to make me new one. I told them I’m joking just to make sure Wade doesn’t redo my board without telling me. They said no way that blank would’ve got scrubbed if it was going to Japan. But boards in Japan actually turn a profit. I would hate it if I was told they used more than one blank to make my board because of a small air bubble in the foam. Such a waste of material over nothing.

However the board in this post looks horrible. Haha.

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Originally Posted by Oeste858
Originally Posted by Duffy
That board is probably magic.

LOL
Should have a bigger markdown. I think you should name the board label and shop. That's pretty poor all around.



Board is a Quiet Flight and this board is on the rack at their New Smyrna shop... I was already irritated with them for forgetting about my custom order but after seeing this I am not sure I will buy another of their boards...

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Maybe a good time to go chat with Chandler ( Greg Griffin) and get a custom

His boards are epic . Come with fins and nice glass job

Or go see Kirk at Coil . Also epic vacuum fiber jobs

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Originally Posted by Osprey321
Originally Posted by Oeste858
Originally Posted by Duffy
That board is probably magic.

LOL
Should have a bigger markdown. I think you should name the board label and shop. That's pretty poor all around.



Board is a Quiet Flight and this board is on the rack at their New Smyrna shop... I was already irritated with them for forgetting about my custom order but after seeing this I am not sure I will buy another of their boards...



ya u floridas r lucky to have greg griffin n ur backyard now. i'd go that route. chandler makes a good boar!


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Makes me feel better about my own glassing wink

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yeah wtf is up with Quiet Fart's glassing. that has so many sandthroughs. u can try turtle wax to seal it.


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Originally Posted by 20W-50 and blood
oversanded and/or somewhere the cloth didnt saturate.

eps + the color blue seem to always show that more than any other combo.


I have a board with a similar colour tint that has the same problem. I have a couple of other boards from the same shaper(well known Southern CA shaper) that are fine. He says that this particular colour often has issues?
I have to repair this board often. It shatters very easily and the glass job seems very light. You can see the grain of the glass through the top coat just like this...................and it was a custom. Is it just a poor glassing job?
I will not call him out here but I have to say I was very disappointed.
What to do, sand and hot coat the whole board?

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'She started to explain to me that the board was most likely intentionally done like that to give it a "rustic" type look. '

What kind of popsicle stand is this shop, and why are they hiring clowns?!

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Most shop rats in most surf shops I've seen will say things like that. Their job is to sell what they have in inventory. There may be a few minimum wage shop rats who have worked on the shaping or glassing side, but that's not most of them.


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Originally Posted by 20W-50 and blood
oversanded and/or somewhere the cloth didnt saturate.

eps + the color blue seem to always show that more than any other combo.


That’s dry cloth. Is it epoxy?

Thought #2. It’s poly that started to kick in the bucket, and they hadn’t got enough on the laps. So they sqidgeed the rapidly curing goo around the laps in a futile attempt to finish off in time.

Shot #1looks like areas of pretty much zero adhesion. I know because I have made boards that look like this. But I didn’t put them on the rack .....

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If you received a custom like this what would you do?

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Pffffft!
Anybody remember that's how normal sand only boards used to look pre-2000's. Standard sanded finish. Fiberglass all in your arms when you carried it. Colored boards always show the burns more and also have a tendency to crystallize if the paint is too thick. Super fast cure lots of catalyst spider cracks when you touched board w/fingernail. Reminds me of those days when HPSB were trying to be light and HP but forgot to be glassed and sanded tight.It was either sanded finish or sanded gloss. That's about the time when guys were rubbing corn oil, pledge, acrylic etc, on them just to cover up the burns.

Not a good look on the rack but Duffys right it probably is magic. Offer them a much larger discount just for giggles!

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"Pffffft!
Anybody remember that's how normal sand only boards used to look pre-2000's. "

The fine sands you get today and even better ones were created on the North Shore in the 80's

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HAHA good one GG! you're right again.
I remember seeing many very nicely glassed and sanded boards on my trips to the islands, to this day still.
From what I can remember, it took a while to see the same results on the mainland boards though.

How are the finished boards coming out in Florida? Seems the OP board in question is pretty bad.

And yes, the tolerance for burn thrus galore on a sanded finish board these days is very very low.

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