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Winter Surf in NY for a Socal dude. #2995766
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Just got a pretty great job offer in NYC.

Coldest water Ive surfed in is probably Santa Barbara winters at the Queen in a 4/3 and booties. (i know not cold at all)

How fucked am I and whats the likelihood I remain a consistent surfer through the winters there?

With all the gear you see people rocking - are you still cold?

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Re: Winter Surf in NY for a Socal dude. [Re: sponge] #2995770
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thanks - dudes mentioned everything but how cold it gets.

I actually grew up in Sheapshead Bay until the age of 11 so Im not unfamiliar with NY at all. Just the Ocean in the Winter.

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Re: Winter Surf in NY for a Socal dude. [Re: CutnSnip] #2995778
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You'll be fine. Just buy the high end wetsuit gear. And you won't be surfing all that often anyway, at least not by west coast standards.


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Re: Winter Surf in NY for a Socal dude. [Re: CutnSnip] #2995784
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You'll need a decent 5/4, at least 5mm lobster claw mitts and 7mm boots for the winter.

If you're coming from CA it'll definitely be a shock, even N. CA isn't really that cold. It's obviously less consistent.

But the surf does get good and easy access via train from NYC if you live in the city. However, I couldn't imagine doing the train in the winter without having a buddy with a place on the beach or at the very least a car. People do it, so maybe I'm just spoiled.

The flip side is NYC is a fun town and NY as a whole is a good place to be for most people, I don't live there and don't plan on it but many love it. If you don't want to live in the city, there's plenty of options to commute from. Lots of non surfing things to do; and if its a good job offer that allows travel you're in a very good central hub to fly out of with JFK and LGA close by.

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Agreed. And living at the beach and commuting to work has treated me very well these 5 years now. That’s always an option too, especially for our fickle surf and cold winters

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First. Be very aware of hypothermia. I surfed 7 winters straight and it was always on my mind. I was affected badly on several occasions and needed help to figure out how to simply get out of the water and go to my car. Scary feeling. The water definitely requires a 5/4 minimum. I prefer a 6/4 especially for windy sunless days and buy the best you can. I didn't opt for the higher end and have paid for it in weight, flexibility, and warmth. The extra rubber and gloves made me feel off balance as well. Also, keep in mind the extra rubber will render your normal board sort of useless. I had to get something with more float. Not trying to be negative, but I ended up calling it a day for the winter months. The wetsuit and the gloves are awful for me. I felt like I was surfing in a condom. Cloudy skies, 20mph offshores, 32 degree water, and very cold ride home don't help either. It's fun to say I have surfed a blizzard and many noreasters, but I can't say I have great memories of waves during those sessions. I know I got some, but I mainly remember feeling extremely uncomfortable. Go skiing/snowboarding instead.

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Getting good waves in a blizzard is truly an amazing and unique experience.

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Originally Posted by manbearpig
Getting good waves in a blizzard is truly an amazing and unique experience.

Oddly enough those were my best winter waves ever and I wasn't cold at all. BTW. I feel like I bought a Chris Birch from a Manbearpig in LI many years ago.

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Countless hours' worth of commuting, coupled with fickle cold waves... hope the job gives you a helluva lot of personal satisfaction!

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Originally Posted by dudeman30
Originally Posted by manbearpig
Getting good waves in a blizzard is truly an amazing and unique experience.

Oddly enough those were my best winter waves ever and I wasn't cold at all. BTW. I feel like I bought a Chris Birch from a Manbearpig in LI many years ago.

https://vimeo.com/88227520

Any pics of the Birch?

It's likely. I had a green twin and one of his little eggy quads, I think it was white with some nice pinlines?

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speaking of which.....yo subway.....ive got air miles to burn. if some semi-weekendish swell lines up...you gonna ring the alarm for me? i'll hop on a plane and jam out there for a couple

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i am cold just reading this

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i had some opportunity in nyc to make some serious $$$

i wouldve been retired by now but i wouldve missed a chit ton of sessoons

socal is crowded as fk but there are waves almost everyday

your physically able years are very limited


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Originally Posted by subway
Agreed. And living at the beach and commuting to work has treated me very well these 5 years now. That’s always an option too, especially for our fickle surf and cold winters


How realistic would it be for me to live in Rockaway and then commute to Midtown?

The job is technically a dream job for what I do with one of the premier brands in the biz. Plus 30k more than what I make here in LA. Other than a relatively short relationship with my girlfriend - I have nothing holding me in California. My folks are here but are planning to retire back east anyways. It would be dumb from a career point of view to turn it down but as most people here on erbb - surfing is a big part of my life and to try and convince myself otherwise makes me sad.

At the end of the day I kind of just hope I have the determination to surf the winters.

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Originally Posted by Havoc4k
i had some opportunity in nyc to make some serious $$$

i wouldve been retired by now but i wouldve missed a chit ton of sessoons

socal is crowded as fk but there are waves almost everyday

your physically able years are very limited


I hear you. Even though surfing in LA can be a bitch most times (traffic,crowds,parking) - its still so easy and consistent.

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$30k extra is nothing. u'll get taxed + standard of living being higher, prly equivalent to LA salary/ not worth it

if you are talking doubling or tripling ur salary then yes. that was my case and it was still not worth it.


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Originally Posted by Havoc4k
$30k extra is nothing. u'll get taxed + standard of living being higher


this

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Originally Posted by casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted by Havoc4k
$30k extra is nothing. u'll get taxed + standard of living being higher


this




quit agreeing with me casa!


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The hell kind of jobs you guys got that making 30k more is pennies.

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Personally I wouldn’t live in Rockaway. The A train subway takes longer than my LIRR commute. You’re stuck with the big city problems of some of the city’s worst projects (not concerned as a fear factor, more just the funk and filth that sadly goes along with many such public housing complexes) plus the added expenses of living within city limits without the fun and food and culture of the city proper. (4% income tax by the city!!) if you were to live “in the city” you would probably want to at least live in brooklyn or Manhattan for a year or two just to experience it, then move to LB haha. I’ve done all 3 and as a surfer in the north east with a career in mid town, living at the beach and commuting an hour each way is the best balance. You will rarely miss a swell even if it lasts a couple hours. And train commuting is pretty civilized and productive. I even meditate sometimes. You ain’t firing up your headspace App in the A traIn.

I can’t comment on whether 30k more makes it worth it, without knowing your lifestyle and expectations. I’m in the opposite position. I make way more here than I could in LA, SD, SF etc. We have offices all over the country and most of those markets managers have tried to entice me at one time or another. Usually with the pitch of warm weather and better surf. I love New York and Long Island surf in the fall or any time it gets good fun and hollow. Most of my closest and oldest friends are either in the city or on the east end of Long Island. Long Beach makes it easy to shoot east for surf and/social visits. But ultimately if I let one of the SoCal managers poach me, I would take a high-5 or even a 6-figure hit leaving the NY DMA. And then my civilized hour on the train turns into a rage inducing hour in traffic.

Surf should be fun here in the morning. I’ll report back after a 2 hour dawn patrol in 75 degree water and a beautiful sunrise followed by a busy day making money.

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And that extra 30k is a couple of epic surf trips every year

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Originally Posted by manbearpig
The hell kind of jobs you guys got that making 30k more is pennies.


I know right? Im capped off here in LA for what I do unless I want to make some serious work/life sacrifices. This job has better better work life balance - more money, and I have family living in NY doing just fine making way way less than what I d be pulling in.

I wont be living in Manhattan but as far as I can tell - the cost of living is the same as living in Hollywood in other boroughs.

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Originally Posted by subway
Personally I wouldn’t live in Rockaway. The A train subway takes longer than my LIRR commute. You’re stuck with the big city problems of some of the city’s worst projects (not concerned as a fear factor, more just the funk and filth that sadly goes along with many such public housing complexes) plus the added expenses of living within city limits without the fun and food and culture of the city proper. (4% income tax by the city!!) if you were to live “in the city” you would probably want to at least live in brooklyn or Manhattan for a year or two just to experience it, then move to LB haha. I’ve done all 3 and as a surfer in the north east with a career in mid town, living at the beach and commuting an hour each way is the best balance. You will rarely miss a swell even if it lasts a couple hours. And train commuting is pretty civilized and productive. I even meditate sometimes. You ain’t firing up your headspace App in the A traIn.

I can’t comment on whether 30k more makes it worth it, without knowing your lifestyle and expectations. I’m in the opposite position. I make way more here than I could in LA, SD, SF etc. We have offices all over the country and most of those markets managers have tried to entice me at one time or another. Usually with the pitch of warm weather and better surf. I love New York and Long Island surf in the fall or any time it gets good fun and hollow. Most of my closest and oldest friends are either in the city or on the east end of Long Island. Long Beach makes it easy to shoot east for surf and/social visits. But ultimately if I let one of the SoCal managers poach me, I would take a high-5 or even a 6-figure hit leaving the NY DMA. And then my civilized hour on the train turns into a rage inducing hour in traffic.

Surf should be fun here in the morning. I’ll report back after a 2 hour dawn patrol in 75 degree water and a beautiful sunrise followed by a busy day making money.


Thanks for this - lots to consider. I make enough to live out there now as far as I can tell. I do ok by LA standards so the extra 30k while not life changing by any means like you said - could go towards trips or get reinvested.

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"dream job" is a strong statement and i feel needs more attention than just the $30K. Yes, surfing is my number one priority, but no matter where you live (unless you hit the El Ogro lottery) we all still have to do something with our days to provide food, shelter and financial security for the present and future. if you can make that day a "dream job" day, that's epic. surf whenever it gets good and take a few trips every year.

Winter is cold, but the joy and exhilaration of scoring an empty or near empty session in water that would otherwise kill you in a half hour is pretty sick

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the crowds in the rockaways have made it almost unsurfable, especially in the summer. the surf schools are there year round and rent soft tops to hoards of beginners on even the coldest days. zero etiquette and much frustration on any days worth paddling out. long beach is better but not by much. if surfing is your priority, don't come to the east coast. just check the cams in the area early and you'll see the swarms every day.

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Originally Posted by 20W-50 and blood
speaking of which.....yo subway.....ive got air miles to burn. if some semi-weekendish swell lines up...you gonna ring the alarm for me? i'll hop on a plane and jam out there for a couple


I've got an extra paddleboard for you when you come. We often get downwind conditions the day or 2 after a swell moves offshore.

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Originally Posted by 20W-50 and blood
speaking of which.....yo subway.....ive got air miles to burn. if some semi-weekendish swell lines up...you gonna ring the alarm for me? i'll hop on a plane and jam out there for a couple


Of course

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Originally Posted by nada2looz
the crowds in the rockaways have made it almost unsurfable, especially in the summer. the surf schools are there year round and rent soft tops to hoards of beginners on even the coldest days. zero etiquette and much frustration on any days worth paddling out. long beach is better but not by much. if surfing is your priority, don't come to the east coast. just check the cams in the area early and you'll see the swarms every day.

Not just rockaway, Long Beach too, and the ACOE really f’d it up good last year too
Honestly, living in Long Beach is probably your best option for city work and optimizing surf, but lower your expectations for surf by a lot, and try to build flexibility into your job so that when it’s great for a couple of hours, even during the week, you’re able to get on it.

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"dream job" is a strong statement and i feel needs more attention than just the $30K. Yes, surfing is my number one priority, but no matter where you live (unless you hit the El Ogro lottery) we all still have to do something with our days to provide food, shelter and financial security for the present and future. if you can make that day a "dream job" day, that's epic. surf whenever it gets good and take a few trips every year.

Winter is cold, but the joy and exhilaration of scoring an empty or near empty session in water that would otherwise kill you in a half hour is pretty sick

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"dream job" is a strong statement and i feel needs more attention than just the $30K. Yes, surfing is my number one priority, but no matter where you live (unless you hit the El Ogro lottery) we all still have to do something with our days to provide food, shelter and financial security for the present and future. if you can make that day a "dream job" day, that's epic. surf whenever it gets good and take a few trips every year.

Winter is cold, but the joy and exhilaration of scoring an empty or near empty session in water that would otherwise kill you in a half hour is pretty sick


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The hell kind of jobs you guys got that making 30k more is pennies.


I know right? Im capped off here in LA for what I do unless I want to make some serious work/life sacrifices. This job has better better work life balance - more money, and I have family living in NY doing just fine making way way less than what I d be pulling in.

I wont be living in Manhattan but as far as I can tell - the cost of living is the same as living in Hollywood in other boroughs.






I was going to say in regards to cost of living; SoCal vs NY are likely as a whole not a whole lot different.

But everyone has a price, and I do understand not doing the move for $xxxx amount. I took a pay cut when I moved to CA. For me, I wouldn’t turn down a $30k increase in salary so quickly. NY isn’t the worst place in the world to be a surfer.

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You’ve lost your mind. Less than what it takes you to retire for life isn’t worth it.


I pretty much agree with this. That being said, I've surfed every winter in NJ going back to the winter of 1987/88. The wetsuits we have these days are just incredible compared to anything we had in the 80s and 90s. My suggestion if you are going to work in NYC would to be to rent a place in Rockaway or Longbeach and commute from there. Not my cup of tea but people do it every day.

PS: If the new job isn't flexible in terms of surfing whenever you want you will be miserable. The key to surfing NJ/NY is to be able to drop everything and be on it for the two hours every two weeks that its actually good.

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"PSS: Stay in California. The crowds are less annoying there."

no they're not. it's crowded as fk but at least there are waves almost every day.


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Just got a pretty great job offer in NYC.

Coldest water Ive surfed in is probably Santa Barbara winters at the Queen in a 4/3 and booties. (i know not cold at all)

How fucked am I and whats the likelihood I remain a consistent surfer through the winters there?

With all the gear you see people rocking - are you still cold?


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Reading this thread with interest, as I moved to NYC recently from further up on the east coast.

New York is fun, but it’s just a city. No different from any cultural capital at the end of the day. The novelty of this will wear off very quickly. If surfing means a lot to you, you may start to find the other diversions here a bit empty, as I have done.

A bigger factor might be your age. It’s easy to keep the stoke alive in your 20’s. In your late 30’s it can be harder to wake up at the crack of dawn to commute to the beach to surf cold, crappy waves. I experienced a dip in stoke over the last winter, and didn’t surf as much as I ought to have done. . Luckily, I managed to get it back and have maintained it, but I would say it requires a lot more effort to surf here.

To reiterate what others have written here, you’ll need a lot of flexibility in your schedule, and a car. Keeping in car in the 5 boroughs is a nuisance a prohibitively expensive. Lots of tolls and tax is quite high.

Cold is really the smallest factor here imo. You’ll need to adjust your dims a bit, a 5/4/3 booties and gloves is at least 15 pounds extra weight.

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"PSS: Stay in California. The crowds are less annoying there."

no they're not. it's crowded as fk but at least there are waves almost every day.


Just my experience from my travels in southern California. I live in NJ and deal with our crowds every time I surf. The crowds here have exploded since the early 2000s. Its a really shitty crowd of incompetents these days and its a crowd that is really really frustrating to surf with. Its a very disorderly crowd with a lot of back paddling, aggressiveness, pull backers and dangerous incompetent idiots......not to mention the people who are just in the way. Even in the dead of winter on a freaking weekday!

My experiences in California have been that yes it is crowded but its not the same. The crowd is less aggro and more competent. People are more mellow. That leads to a more orderly and less frustrating situation to me. I feel right at home in a crowded lineup in Southern California and to me the vibe is more like it was back home in the 80s and 90s. I don't mind surfing in an orderly crowd and am pretty good at working a crowded lineup. Even on a weekend at Lowers I get my waves and generally don't leave frustrated. The only place I've encountered where the crowd was more like the frustration I get back home is Salt Creek.


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Keep in mind I'm a Floridian. So any water up north is colder than I am use to at home, But I took a job at an ad agency in Rhode Island back in the early 90s, worked there almost 2.5 years.

I surfed some of the best /biggest waves I've seen on the east coast during the winters, caught a few well known spots going off with very little crowd compared to where I surf on a good day.
That being said, I was underprepared for the cold. I found myself surfing like a goofball most of the time because I was so damn cold. I was a lot slower, rode bigger boards than I ever have and honestly had a hard time adjusting.

In hindsight I would say, get the best damn wetsuit they make, along with booties, hood and gloves.
I was cheap and didn't spend the money I should have for those winters.

Good luck, there are some greats spots north of where you are going, travel and check them out.
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Originally Posted by rowjimmytour
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Just got a pretty great job offer in NYC.

Coldest water Ive surfed in is probably Santa Barbara winters at the Queen in a 4/3 and booties. (i know not cold at all)

How fucked am I and whats the likelihood I remain a consistent surfer through the winters there?

With all the gear you see people rocking - are you still cold?


If you need a 4/3 and booties at Rincon I would say no way in hell handle Summer in NY drowning


In the winter? I definitely am not the only one in booties there in the winter. Most people are wearing hoods too.

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a high end winter suit will keep you plenty comfortable. Hell even the cheap ones are adequate these days. But for flex and performance, spend some extra cash on the good shit. I got the O'Neil Hyper mutant 5.5/4 and it's magic. Surfs like a comfortable 4/3, and feels as warm as a 6 mil


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Just got a pretty great job offer in NYC.

Coldest water Ive surfed in is probably Santa Barbara winters at the Queen in a 4/3 and booties. (i know not cold at all)

How fucked am I and whats the likelihood I remain a consistent surfer through the winters there?

With all the gear you see people rocking - are you still cold?


If you need a 4/3 and booties at Rincon I would say no way in hell handle Summer in NY drowning


In the winter? I definitely am not the only one in booties there in the winter. Most people are wearing hoods too.

My point most in 805 need 4/3 booties and hood and really h20 temp is 3/2 solo. I grew up in 805 and never wore a 4/3 and booties until I moved to Santa Cruz and surfed Big Sur North SD south shrug Yes everyone is in 4/3 booties including folks in SD so.....I am not a big guy I am 5'8" 170# surf 805 now in vest in trunks and most year in 2mm short sleeve full and late winter go to 3mm hyperfreak comp suit. Time I spent in SC with 4/3 booties was awkward for me with rubber and always hated booties drowning Good luck with 6/4 gloves and booties body cold in Southern CA foreheadslap


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Originally Posted by rowjimmytour
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Just got a pretty great job offer in NYC.

Coldest water Ive surfed in is probably Santa Barbara winters at the Queen in a 4/3 and booties. (i know not cold at all)

How fucked am I and whats the likelihood I remain a consistent surfer through the winters there?

With all the gear you see people rocking - are you still cold?


If you need a 4/3 and booties at Rincon I would say no way in hell handle Summer in NY drowning


In the winter? I definitely am not the only one in booties there in the winter. Most people are wearing hoods too.

My point most in 805 need 4/3 booties and hood and really h20 temp is 3/2 solo. I grew up in 805 and never wore a 4/3 and booties until I moved to Santa Cruz and surfed Big Sur North SD south shrug Yes everyone is in 4/3 booties including folks in SD so.....I am not a big guy I am 5'8" 170# surf 805 now in vest in trunks and most year in 2mm short sleeve full and late winter go to 3mm hyperfreak comp suit. Time I spent in SC with 4/3 booties was awkward for me with rubber and always hated booties drowning Good luck with 6/4 gloves and booties body cold in Southern CA foreheadslap


having some trouble deciphering your version of english but if I can read between the lines you are saying you are a tough guy with warmer blood than most. Props dude, thanks for chiming in!

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Originally Posted by subway
a high end winter suit will keep you plenty comfortable. Hell even the cheap ones are adequate these days. But for flex and performance, spend some extra cash on the good shit. I got the O'Neil Hyper mutant 5.5/4 and it's magic. Surfs like a comfortable 4/3, and feels as warm as a 6 mil



See thats the kind of encouragement Im looking for. Consistency and quality of waves is one thing and I realize Id be giving that up, but I just wanted to know if the temperature with the right equiptment are tolerable for most people.

I may hit you up privately for some more info about NY in general if you dont mind.

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Originally Posted by CutnSnip
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Just got a pretty great job offer in NYC.

Coldest water Ive surfed in is probably Santa Barbara winters at the Queen in a 4/3 and booties. (i know not cold at all)

How fucked am I and whats the likelihood I remain a consistent surfer through the winters there?

With all the gear you see people rocking - are you still cold?


If you need a 4/3 and booties at Rincon I would say no way in hell handle Summer in NY drowning


In the winter? I definitely am not the only one in booties there in the winter. Most people are wearing hoods too.

My point most in 805 need 4/3 booties and hood and really h20 temp is 3/2 solo. I grew up in 805 and never wore a 4/3 and booties until I moved to Santa Cruz and surfed Big Sur North SD south shrug Yes everyone is in 4/3 booties including folks in SD so.....I am not a big guy I am 5'8" 170# surf 805 now in vest in trunks and most year in 2mm short sleeve full and late winter go to 3mm hyperfreak comp suit. Time I spent in SC with 4/3 booties was awkward for me with rubber and always hated booties drowning Good luck with 6/4 gloves and booties body cold in Southern CA foreheadslap


having some trouble deciphering your version of english but if I can read between the lines you are saying you are a tough guy with warmer blood than most. Props dude, thanks for chiming in!

roflmao
Just saying this tough guy would not try surfing Cold Eastern Winter specially if I needed a 4/3 and booties for 56 degree h20 and air temp 60+ degrees....

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you are a tough guy

roflmao
Just saying this tough guy


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The hell kind of jobs you guys got that making 30k more is pennies.


It's the erBB.

When I argued an additional $1,000 in tax refund in was NOT pennies to the majority of the people in the US I was vehemently shut down.

lol

Anyhow, 30K more than he makes in LA is pennies due to the fact he will experience an increased cost of living in the NYC area.

So although he's making 30K more than he is in LA he's really not making that much more and possibly making less than he is now.

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What’s the cost of living LA vs NYC?

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The hell kind of jobs you guys got that making 30k more is pennies.


It's the erBB.

When I argued an additional $1,000 in tax refund in was NOT pennies to the majority of the people in the US I was vehemently shut down.

lol

Anyhow, 30K more than he makes in LA is pennies due to the fact he will experience an increased cost of living in the NYC area.

So although he's making 30K more than he is in LA he's really not making that much more and possibly making less than he is now.



Why the increased cost of living in NY vs LA? Looked at apartments in Rockaway and its the same as Im paying here for something comparable and right now Im far from the beach in Hollywood. I was just there in NYC last weekend - Food,drinks, etc same as in LA. Right now I pay 2300 for a mediocre one bedroom apartment. I hear alot of people say the cost of living in Ny is high but Im not seeing a difference.

My cousin owns a home in Brooklyn on a postmans salary. I make 6 figures now and could afford it w/o the extra 30k. Still not worht it surf stuff aside?

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yeah i have a pretty f-ing dope home a block from the beach and my mortgage is plenty affordable. i could make half of what i make and still afford it.

Nice thing about NY is that you can find affordable pockets and neighborhoods, without really sacrificing much quality of life difference. SO many rich people (and there are a LOT of legit rich people on Long Island) insist on living on 5 acres, gates, huge houses on golf course etc. So that leaves plenty of perfectly safe, family friendly areas where a normal middle class family can afford a reasonable home.

This is all relative of course. but since we are comparing LA and NY, its valid

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For $2300 a month you could have a nice 2 bedroom apartment ON the beach in Long Beach, and a 5 minute walk to the train

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NYC is only "more expensive than LA" if you want an apartment in the west village, Tribeca, N'side Willburg etc

Not all of us pay $10,000 a month for a 2 bedroom walk up

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For $2300 a month you could have a nice 2 bedroom apartment ON the beach in Long Beach, and a 5 minute walk to the train


thats what Im seeing over here online.

I think people making the cost of living comparison tween NY/LA are thinking apartments in Manhattan which yea - obviously ridiculously expensive and small.

Right noiw - the only cost I see immediately added is commuting. I walk to work now so anything is going to be a jump up but cant be more than 50 bucks a week to take the train to and fro the city right?

I do have a lease and would be bringing my car - registration and insurance could be more $$ out there Im assuming?

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ya 30k is a good chunk of change but not worth moving to a place like NY. fk dat chit hommiez

One thing you need to factor in is off chance you get to the job and the boss is a D-bag. I left a job that I have been at for 15 years a while back for $25k more a year in the same city (jax). Seemed like a good deal.
Get to the new job after numerous meetings with the new boss, once at the job I realize he was just putting on a show to get me there. I get there and he is the biggest A-hole I've ever worked for in 35 years in the ad biz. (and I've worked with a few to know)
long story short, be very sure that the new job is a good culture move too. Don't just move for more money. You never know till you get there what the people are really like. And just because you make 30k more it won't matter if you only last 3 months.
I left that job as fast as a job opened back up at the previous job I had. Been back here for a year now and couldn't be happier again......but I lost all my 5 weeks vacation and put my family through hell working for a total toolbag.
just my .02 on moving just for money.

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Something to think about, you could live on the North Jersey coast and take the ferry into work.

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Wetsuits are really good now. Changing in and out seems to be the biggest issue. So just get a van to change inside of. Waves there are less often but often appear to be hollower and higher quality, so maybe you will enjoy each session more.

Surf less overall sessions, take more trips and have better sessions. I say go for it.

Since you currently walk to work. Will the 1 hour commute kill you?

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coastal jersey is super pricey for the most part and the ferry is more than $600 a month, not counting the $120 metro card you need to get around Manhattan (unless your office is close to one of the ferry stops)

We thought about Jersey, but Long Beach is more consistent, and it's much easier to get to the East end when hurricane swells close out most of the eastern seaboard beach breaks. But also I'm baised. We have a handful of very dear friends in coastal Jersey (hi Groms Dad!!) but overall, we have way MORE friends on eastern long island, and go out there several times a year or more. Getting to the East End from Jersey is a 4 hour torture fest. From Long Beach it's 90 minutes, the first 30 of which are on the beautiful Ocean Parkway with bay to the left, and ocean to the right.

LIRR monthly pass to city is $300, unlimited.

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all that said, i would LOVE to commute by high speed ferry. If they built a high speed terminal in Long Beach, i would pay it. My office is a 10 minute walk from the east side landing at 35th street

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For $2300 a month you could have a nice 2 bedroom apartment ON the beach in Long Beach, and a 5 minute walk to the train


thats what Im seeing over here online.

I think people making the cost of living comparison tween NY/LA are thinking apartments in Manhattan which yea - obviously ridiculously expensive and small.

Right noiw - the only cost I see immediately added is commuting. I walk to work now so anything is going to be a jump up but cant be more than 50 bucks a week to take the train to and fro the city right?

I do have a lease and would be bringing my car - registration and insurance could be more $$ out there Im assuming?



Don't worry about the car if you have your heart set on Rockaway; New York doesn't require you to register it the day you show up and it will be in a chop shop in South Jamaica before you wake up the next morning.

That line you see on the houses that looks like the shitstain ring on toilet in a Wendy's bathroom is how high the storm surge from Sandy was.


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ya 30k is a good chunk of change but not worth moving to a place like NY. fk dat chit hommiez

One thing you need to factor in is off chance you get to the job and the boss is a D-bag. I left a job that I have been at for 15 years a while back for $25k more a year in the same city (jax). Seemed like a good deal.
Get to the new job after numerous meetings with the new boss, once at the job I realize he was just putting on a show to get me there. I get there and he is the biggest A-hole I've ever worked for in 35 years in the ad biz. (and I've worked with a few to know)
long story short, be very sure that the new job is a good culture move too. Don't just move for more money. You never know till you get there what the people are really like. And just because you make 30k more it won't matter if you only last 3 months.
I left that job as fast as a job opened back up at the previous job I had. Been back here for a year now and couldn't be happier again......but I lost all my 5 weeks vacation and put my family through hell working for a total toolbag.
just my .02 on moving just for money.


You're in advertising in Jax? we may know a couple of people in common smile

And this is good advice.

I'm a big fan of making money and being a NY surfer, and frankly, I'm living my best life, and helping my wife find and live hers. But a bad work culture could change that formula dramatically.

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I work in Trailer houses in LA - you can not get a more Toxic work environment than what Im currently used to.

this job would mean normal hours, and so far from whom ive met - normal people - and while less variety the content is top notch.

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I moved up to LI from FL a bit over 2 yrs ago. The winters are for sure cold and it's hard to get motivated to surf when it's freezing out in the dead of winter. Some of the guys up here amaze me with the temps they surf in.
Def splurge on some good suits. Still not really used to gloves/hood but it's part of the deal.
Property taxes are insane here. Mine are literally 4 times what I paid down there.

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Can I ask what you do for work?


I edit Movie Trailers for the most part. Alot of Netflix/Amazon, and HBO stuff too. While it sounds like fun, and it can be - its alot of stress, crazy deadlines, long hours, and the most random and eccentric people. I also work on a ton of stuff that never sees the light of the day because 5 places in town could be competing on the same trailer.

This is an opportunity to go in house at cable network and take on a creative director role. While Id still be cutting - Id be mentoring people on the team as well.

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Carpe Diem. Carpe fukking Diem bro

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And this whole debate about how cold it is and the wetsuits etc. I see 100# Korean chicks taking lessons in fukking February.

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And this whole debate about how cold it is and the wetsuits etc. I see 100# Korean chicks taking lessons in fukking February.

Much tougher then +100lbs So CA resident(s) roflmao


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Can I ask what you do for work?


I edit Movie Trailers for the most part. Alot of Netflix/Amazon, and HBO stuff too. While it sounds like fun, and it can be - its alot of stress, crazy deadlines, long hours, and the most random and eccentric people. I also work on a ton of stuff that never sees the light of the day because 5 places in town could be competing on the same trailer.

This is an opportunity to go in house at cable network and take on a creative director role. While Id still be cutting - Id be mentoring people on the team as well.



Do you know TMZ? He said he lived in Hollywood and did the same kind of work you do. Asking for OT.


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Originally Posted by CutnSnip
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Can I ask what you do for work?


I edit Movie Trailers for the most part. Alot of Netflix/Amazon, and HBO stuff too. While it sounds like fun, and it can be - its alot of stress, crazy deadlines, long hours, and the most random and eccentric people. I also work on a ton of stuff that never sees the light of the day because 5 places in town could be competing on the same trailer.

This is an opportunity to go in house at cable network and take on a creative director role. While Id still be cutting - Id be mentoring people on the team as well.






Interesting gig. Surprised you capped out in LA but I imagine it’s pretty saturated out there.

If you get ample vacation time, at least more than current situation I’d have a hard time not going for it.

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Originally Posted by CutnSnip
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Can I ask what you do for work?


I edit Movie Trailers for the most part. Alot of Netflix/Amazon, and HBO stuff too. While it sounds like fun, and it can be - its alot of stress, crazy deadlines, long hours, and the most random and eccentric people. I also work on a ton of stuff that never sees the light of the day because 5 places in town could be competing on the same trailer.

This is an opportunity to go in house at cable network and take on a creative director role. While Id still be cutting - Id be mentoring people on the team as well.







Sounds like a pretty good job / career prospect. All the best in whatever path you choose!

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Can I ask what you do for work?


I edit Movie Trailers for the most part. Alot of Netflix/Amazon, and HBO stuff too. While it sounds like fun, and it can be - its alot of stress, crazy deadlines, long hours, and the most random and eccentric people. I also work on a ton of stuff that never sees the light of the day because 5 places in town could be competing on the same trailer.

This is an opportunity to go in house at cable network and take on a creative director role. While Id still be cutting - Id be mentoring people on the team as well.






shoot, i figured you were a urologist?

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Originally Posted by CutnSnip
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Can I ask what you do for work?


I edit Movie Trailers for the most part. Alot of Netflix/Amazon, and HBO stuff too. While it sounds like fun, and it can be - its alot of stress, crazy deadlines, long hours, and the most random and eccentric people. I also work on a ton of stuff that never sees the light of the day because 5 places in town could be competing on the same trailer.

This is an opportunity to go in house at cable network and take on a creative director role. While Id still be cutting - Id be mentoring people on the team as well.








if ur still relatively young, do it. u'll up ur experience and career. move up not down.

i took a job that pays 1/3 of what I could make in NY but can surge 5.5 months out of the year unrestricted by work. I only work 6.5 months a yr.

do it! u can always move back if u get too much frostbite


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Can I ask what you do for work?


I edit Movie Trailers for the most part. Alot of Netflix/Amazon, and HBO stuff too. While it sounds like fun, and it can be - its alot of stress, crazy deadlines, long hours, and the most random and eccentric people. I also work on a ton of stuff that never sees the light of the day because 5 places in town could be competing on the same trailer.

This is an opportunity to go in house at cable network and take on a creative director role. While Id still be cutting - Id be mentoring people on the team as well.



Do you know TMZ? He said he lived in Hollywood and did the same kind of work you do. Asking for OT.


I know the paparazzi website TMZ but thats about it.

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Originally Posted by manbearpig
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Can I ask what you do for work?


I edit Movie Trailers for the most part. Alot of Netflix/Amazon, and HBO stuff too. While it sounds like fun, and it can be - its alot of stress, crazy deadlines, long hours, and the most random and eccentric people. I also work on a ton of stuff that never sees the light of the day because 5 places in town could be competing on the same trailer.

This is an opportunity to go in house at cable network and take on a creative director role. While Id still be cutting - Id be mentoring people on the team as well.






Interesting gig. Surprised you capped out in LA but I imagine it’s pretty saturated out there.

If you get ample vacation time, at least more than current situation I’d have a hard time not going for it.


I think theres more money to be made here, the best dudes ( NOT ME!) are pulling in 300k and beyond but also have Zero lives. No one is offering up a creative director position though, unless I bring in and manage my own clients and in turn make the company even more $ which is not something Id really like to do.

I think Im going to go for it - I have till Monday to decide.

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sounds like a great opportunity. go for it. u can always come back if it sux but u'll kick urself if u dont try


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Originally Posted by Havoc4k
sounds like a great opportunity. go for it. u can always come back if it sux but u'll kick urself if u dont try


thats what Im saying. At the very least, give it a whirl. I wont have lost that much ground If I have to come back to LA in a year.

Thanks for the insight and advice everybody - If I wasnt at work now - Id link up some titties for your troubles.

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I predict you will move there, have kids, and surf 1/10th of what you do now due to lack of time/commute/weather

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I predict you will move there, have kids, and surf 1/10th of what you do now due to lack of time/commute/weather


Appreciate the optimism pal, but you could be right. It takes me 30 minutes to get to the closest beach (el sucko) now and i get my time in at least a 3-4 times a week if there are waves so it wont be a commute that does me in. Im in OC every weekend between HB and Trestles, dont mind a drive. Weather is my biggest concern - cant deny Im am apprehensive about the cold. It looks gnarly.

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I predict you will move there, have kids, and surf 1/10th of what you do now due to lack of time/commute/weather



it doesnt matter where u live, once u have kids your surf time dissapears


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I predict you will move there, have kids, and surf 1/10th of what you do now due to lack of time/commute/weather



it doesnt matter where u live, once u have kids your surf time dissapears


In my case, this is not true at all. It's because of where I live and work, that I can surf around any kids' activities. Also means that any holiday we have, is basically a surf trip :p

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lucky. wish i had the same.
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I predict you will move there, have kids, and surf 1/10th of what you do now due to lack of time/commute/weather



it doesnt matter where u live, once u have kids your surf time dissapears


In my case, this is not true at all. It's because of where I live and work, that I can surf around any kids' activities. Also means that any holiday we have, is basically a surf trip :p


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Re: Winter Surf in NY for a Socal dude. [Re: CutnSnip] #2996840
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wow, so much debate.

To the OP.

I lived in NJ for 3 years. The surf can get very very good but it's rare. The number of surfable days will go down significantly and like someone said earlier, you need to be able to drop and go.

30K/ year is nothing. I would be very careful to look at rent/commuting expenses etc and look at your damn taxes and see how much of that you keep. Run the numbers based on your old taxes b/c you may go up a bracket or two and you may only keep 50-60% of that which makes it 20k at best. Sure 20K is a lot of money but over the course of a year you'll spend it on living in NYC just in coffee and cabs, forget dinner.

if you are going from 100K to 130, maybe a noticeable difference. From 180-210; taxes and living will eat that up.

If the job is amazing, great, do it. Maybe e good experience to live in NYC and see what a real city is like. Surf wise you can make it work but its a struggle. I think its easier if you are from here to motivate to surf cold waves, although Groovn freakin did it to the great white north.

Job- chasing a dream? good opportunity? go for it.
surf: you will surf way less; you may go 1-2 months at a time without surfing
money: probably about a push; consider how much of that you keep.
family/ friends; if young, no big deal.

How much is it going to cost to move and who will pay for that? all things to consider.

good luck


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Re: Winter Surf in NY for a Socal dude. [Re: mundus] #2996841
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Something to think about, you could live on the North Jersey coast and take the ferry into work.


Taking the ferry from Highlands is my favorite way to go to the city. Stress free.


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Re: Winter Surf in NY for a Socal dude. [Re: CutnSnip] #2996847
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yeah that's a great ferry ride for sure. pricey for a monthly commute, but such a cool way to get to work and back, and literally half the time it takes on the train or bus

But overall, as far as surf, i think long island has more ride-able days than Jerz. both costs have their moments of glory of course, but we get more of that exposure to south windswell events that feed the monkey in between real swell events.

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Ballsack seems to love living / surfing in NY

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Ballsack seems to love living / surfing in NY

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Originally Posted by Waxfoot
Ballsack seems to love living / surfing in NY

https://stabmag.com/style/the-stab-interview-balaram-stack/


guy fricken rips - been watching his progress over the last couple years especially at Pipe.

Re: Winter Surf in NY for a Socal dude. [Re: CutnSnip] #2997269
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Originally Posted by CutnSnip
See thats the kind of encouragement Im looking for. Consistency and quality of waves is one thing and I realize Id be giving that up, but I just wanted to know if the temperature with the right equiptment are tolerable for most people.

I dunno who most people are, they probably don't surf, but here's another vote for "holy crap these modern wesuits are amazing". I drifted north a bit further but a hooded 5/4 (with gloves and boots) still keeps me happy. It was a pretty good winter for the northeast, too. The days with steady snow from an overrunning warm front look cool and are usually relatively warm (30s) and not too windy, it's the fook-all cold clear days where it's blowing and 15 that will freeze your ass.

As far as living in Rockaway goes, I think the answer is "don't". I almost rented a place at the very end of the line (Beach 116th) a long time ago--it was a huge house and it would have been the second-cheapest thing I'd ever rented in NYC, but I'd have spent three hours a day on the A train.

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Except he’s gone for most of the year and doesn’t have to deal with not surfing >90% of the days

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Originally Posted by glitch
Originally Posted by CutnSnip
See thats the kind of encouragement Im looking for. Consistency and quality of waves is one thing and I realize Id be giving that up, but I just wanted to know if the temperature with the right equiptment are tolerable for most people.

I dunno who most people are, they probably don't surf, but here's another vote for "holy crap these modern wesuits are amazing". I drifted north a bit further but a hooded 5/4 (with gloves and boots) still keeps me happy. It was a pretty good winter for the northeast, too. The days with steady snow from an overrunning warm front look cool and are usually relatively warm (30s) and not too windy, it's the fook-all cold clear days where it's blowing and 15 that will freeze your ass.

As far as living in Rockaway goes, I think the answer is "don't". I almost rented a place at the very end of the line (Beach 116th) a long time ago--it was a huge house and it would have been the second-cheapest thing I'd ever rented in NYC, but I'd have spent three hours a day on the A train.

? For those right coast surfers.....
What does the average surfer regardless of height and size wear when h20 temp is around 56 and air is 60?


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Originally Posted by rowjimmytour
Originally Posted by glitch
Originally Posted by CutnSnip
See thats the kind of encouragement Im looking for. Consistency and quality of waves is one thing and I realize Id be giving that up, but I just wanted to know if the temperature with the right equiptment are tolerable for most people.

I dunno who most people are, they probably don't surf, but here's another vote for "holy crap these modern wesuits are amazing". I drifted north a bit further but a hooded 5/4 (with gloves and boots) still keeps me happy. It was a pretty good winter for the northeast, too. The days with steady snow from an overrunning warm front look cool and are usually relatively warm (30s) and not too windy, it's the fook-all cold clear days where it's blowing and 15 that will freeze your ass.

As far as living in Rockaway goes, I think the answer is "don't". I almost rented a place at the very end of the line (Beach 116th) a long time ago--it was a huge house and it would have been the second-cheapest thing I'd ever rented in NYC, but I'd have spent three hours a day on the A train.

? For those right coast surfers.....
What does the average surfer regardless of height and size wear when h20 temp is around 56 and air is 60?


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Re: Winter Surf in NY for a Socal dude. [Re: VaB] #2997477
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Originally Posted by VaB
wow, so much debate.

To the OP.

I lived in NJ for 3 years. The surf can get very very good but it's rare. The number of surfable days will go down significantly and like someone said earlier, you need to be able to drop and go.

30K/ year is nothing. I would be very careful to look at rent/commuting expenses etc and look at your damn taxes and see how much of that you keep. Run the numbers based on your old taxes b/c you may go up a bracket or two and you may only keep 50-60% of that which makes it 20k at best. Sure 20K is a lot of money but over the course of a year you'll spend it on living in NYC just in coffee and cabs, forget dinner.

if you are going from 100K to 130, maybe a noticeable difference. From 180-210; taxes and living will eat that up.

If the job is amazing, great, do it. Maybe e good experience to live in NYC and see what a real city is like. Surf wise you can make it work but its a struggle. I think its easier if you are from here to motivate to surf cold waves, although Groovn freakin did it to the great white north.

Job- chasing a dream? good opportunity? go for it.
surf: you will surf way less; you may go 1-2 months at a time without surfing
money: probably about a push; consider how much of that you keep.
family/ friends; if young, no big deal.

How much is it going to cost to move and who will pay for that? all things to consider.

good luck



What VaB said.
I lived in NY in my 20's (early 90's) before I got the job at Surfer. Was super glad I did. Tons of skateboarding. Super fun to bike everywhere in the city. The culture/nightlife is amazing. I wouldn't move there if surfing is way high on your list of life priorities, but you can get your share. Especially if you find a place to keep a car out of the city within easy access of a train so you can jump out to Eastern LI spots. NY has a ton to offer. I didnt' end up staying there - and was glad to get out when I moved after a year. But I was damn glad I did a year there. Now if I had a family and had to live there - that might be another story.

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Originally Posted by glitch


As far as living in Rockaway goes, I think the answer is "don't". I almost rented a place at the very end of the line (Beach 116th) a long time ago--it was a huge house and it would have been the second-cheapest thing I'd ever rented in NYC, but I'd have spent three hours a day on the A train.


this. in my experience it's just not consistent enough to justify the daily commute time to and from the beach. unless you really just want to get wet and stay in shape paddling around in junk, there aren't enough 'surfable' days to sit on the train 3 hours a day. there are other things to consider; bigger houses and a different lifestyle than in the city proper but if it's just surfing, i'd say ditch the car, live in the city and jump on the swell when it arrives which isn't weekly..

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I would say keep a car. You don’t want to limit yourself to the Rockaways; it’s an f-ing nightmare there.

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Originally Posted by Ltbiggles
I would say keep a car. You don’t want to limit yourself to the Rockaways; it’s an f-ing nightmare there.


a car is a big hassle and expense for surfing once a week if that. renting much cheaper

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I say do it.

Don't worry about (the routine of) surfing taking the back seat for a couple of years. Live your life, make new experiences, further your career, meet some new friends, etc.

And when you are there, don't stress yourself about not being able to get into the water. Don't be a slave to the activity of surfing, especially when you're young/single.

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