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Re: Winter Surf in NY for a Socal dude. [Re: 20W-50 and blood] #2995927
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Originally Posted by 20W-50 and blood
speaking of which.....yo subway.....ive got air miles to burn. if some semi-weekendish swell lines up...you gonna ring the alarm for me? i'll hop on a plane and jam out there for a couple


I've got an extra paddleboard for you when you come. We often get downwind conditions the day or 2 after a swell moves offshore.

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Originally Posted by 20W-50 and blood
speaking of which.....yo subway.....ive got air miles to burn. if some semi-weekendish swell lines up...you gonna ring the alarm for me? i'll hop on a plane and jam out there for a couple


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Re: Winter Surf in NY for a Socal dude. [Re: nada2looz] #2995939
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Originally Posted by nada2looz
the crowds in the rockaways have made it almost unsurfable, especially in the summer. the surf schools are there year round and rent soft tops to hoards of beginners on even the coldest days. zero etiquette and much frustration on any days worth paddling out. long beach is better but not by much. if surfing is your priority, don't come to the east coast. just check the cams in the area early and you'll see the swarms every day.

Not just rockaway, Long Beach too, and the ACOE really f’d it up good last year too
Honestly, living in Long Beach is probably your best option for city work and optimizing surf, but lower your expectations for surf by a lot, and try to build flexibility into your job so that when it’s great for a couple of hours, even during the week, you’re able to get on it.

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Re: Winter Surf in NY for a Socal dude. [Re: CutnSnip] #2995940
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Re: Winter Surf in NY for a Socal dude. [Re: CutnSnip] #2995941
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Re: Winter Surf in NY for a Socal dude. [Re: subway] #2995945
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Originally Posted by subway
"dream job" is a strong statement and i feel needs more attention than just the $30K. Yes, surfing is my number one priority, but no matter where you live (unless you hit the El Ogro lottery) we all still have to do something with our days to provide food, shelter and financial security for the present and future. if you can make that day a "dream job" day, that's epic. surf whenever it gets good and take a few trips every year.

Winter is cold, but the joy and exhilaration of scoring an empty or near empty session in water that would otherwise kill you in a half hour is pretty sick

Originally Posted by subway
"dream job" is a strong statement and i feel needs more attention than just the $30K. Yes, surfing is my number one priority, but no matter where you live (unless you hit the El Ogro lottery) we all still have to do something with our days to provide food, shelter and financial security for the present and future. if you can make that day a "dream job" day, that's epic. surf whenever it gets good and take a few trips every year.

Winter is cold, but the joy and exhilaration of scoring an empty or near empty session in water that would otherwise kill you in a half hour is pretty sick


My lottery was working 60hrs/week for 12 years in a place I wasn’t really stocked to be, saving $$, with a goal to GTFO @ 40. I had some interesting job offers after I retired but really just wanted to surf warm reasonably consistent empty waves. If I was in my early 40’s today I don’t know that I would make the same decision. It ain’t empty anymore for one thing. Anywhere. I think if one was conditioned to the lifestyle in the great white north (mostly weather) it wouldn’t be the same as moving from California. To me it would be worth it if I was certain I could bail.

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Re: Winter Surf in NY for a Socal dude. [Re: CutnSnip] #2995946
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Originally Posted by CutnSnip
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The hell kind of jobs you guys got that making 30k more is pennies.


I know right? Im capped off here in LA for what I do unless I want to make some serious work/life sacrifices. This job has better better work life balance - more money, and I have family living in NY doing just fine making way way less than what I d be pulling in.

I wont be living in Manhattan but as far as I can tell - the cost of living is the same as living in Hollywood in other boroughs.






I was going to say in regards to cost of living; SoCal vs NY are likely as a whole not a whole lot different.

But everyone has a price, and I do understand not doing the move for $xxxx amount. I took a pay cut when I moved to CA. For me, I wouldn’t turn down a $30k increase in salary so quickly. NY isn’t the worst place in the world to be a surfer.

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Originally Posted by ElOgro
You’ve lost your mind. Less than what it takes you to retire for life isn’t worth it.


I pretty much agree with this. That being said, I've surfed every winter in NJ going back to the winter of 1987/88. The wetsuits we have these days are just incredible compared to anything we had in the 80s and 90s. My suggestion if you are going to work in NYC would to be to rent a place in Rockaway or Longbeach and commute from there. Not my cup of tea but people do it every day.

PS: If the new job isn't flexible in terms of surfing whenever you want you will be miserable. The key to surfing NJ/NY is to be able to drop everything and be on it for the two hours every two weeks that its actually good.

PSS: Stay in California. The crowds are less annoying there.


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Re: Winter Surf in NY for a Socal dude. [Re: Autoprax] #2996180
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Re: Winter Surf in NY for a Socal dude. [Re: CutnSnip] #2996181
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"PSS: Stay in California. The crowds are less annoying there."

no they're not. it's crowded as fk but at least there are waves almost every day.


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Re: Winter Surf in NY for a Socal dude. [Re: CutnSnip] #2996221
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Originally Posted by CutnSnip
Just got a pretty great job offer in NYC.

Coldest water Ive surfed in is probably Santa Barbara winters at the Queen in a 4/3 and booties. (i know not cold at all)

How fucked am I and whats the likelihood I remain a consistent surfer through the winters there?

With all the gear you see people rocking - are you still cold?


If you need a 4/3 and booties at Rincon I would say no way in hell handle Summer in NY drowning


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Re: Winter Surf in NY for a Socal dude. [Re: CutnSnip] #2996226
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Reading this thread with interest, as I moved to NYC recently from further up on the east coast.

New York is fun, but it’s just a city. No different from any cultural capital at the end of the day. The novelty of this will wear off very quickly. If surfing means a lot to you, you may start to find the other diversions here a bit empty, as I have done.

A bigger factor might be your age. It’s easy to keep the stoke alive in your 20’s. In your late 30’s it can be harder to wake up at the crack of dawn to commute to the beach to surf cold, crappy waves. I experienced a dip in stoke over the last winter, and didn’t surf as much as I ought to have done. . Luckily, I managed to get it back and have maintained it, but I would say it requires a lot more effort to surf here.

To reiterate what others have written here, you’ll need a lot of flexibility in your schedule, and a car. Keeping in car in the 5 boroughs is a nuisance a prohibitively expensive. Lots of tolls and tax is quite high.

Cold is really the smallest factor here imo. You’ll need to adjust your dims a bit, a 5/4/3 booties and gloves is at least 15 pounds extra weight.

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Originally Posted by Havoc4k
"PSS: Stay in California. The crowds are less annoying there."

no they're not. it's crowded as fk but at least there are waves almost every day.


Just my experience from my travels in southern California. I live in NJ and deal with our crowds every time I surf. The crowds here have exploded since the early 2000s. Its a really shitty crowd of incompetents these days and its a crowd that is really really frustrating to surf with. Its a very disorderly crowd with a lot of back paddling, aggressiveness, pull backers and dangerous incompetent idiots......not to mention the people who are just in the way. Even in the dead of winter on a freaking weekday!

My experiences in California have been that yes it is crowded but its not the same. The crowd is less aggro and more competent. People are more mellow. That leads to a more orderly and less frustrating situation to me. I feel right at home in a crowded lineup in Southern California and to me the vibe is more like it was back home in the 80s and 90s. I don't mind surfing in an orderly crowd and am pretty good at working a crowded lineup. Even on a weekend at Lowers I get my waves and generally don't leave frustrated. The only place I've encountered where the crowd was more like the frustration I get back home is Salt Creek.


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Keep in mind I'm a Floridian. So any water up north is colder than I am use to at home, But I took a job at an ad agency in Rhode Island back in the early 90s, worked there almost 2.5 years.

I surfed some of the best /biggest waves I've seen on the east coast during the winters, caught a few well known spots going off with very little crowd compared to where I surf on a good day.
That being said, I was underprepared for the cold. I found myself surfing like a goofball most of the time because I was so damn cold. I was a lot slower, rode bigger boards than I ever have and honestly had a hard time adjusting.

In hindsight I would say, get the best damn wetsuit they make, along with booties, hood and gloves.
I was cheap and didn't spend the money I should have for those winters.

Good luck, there are some greats spots north of where you are going, travel and check them out.
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Re: Winter Surf in NY for a Socal dude. [Re: CutnSnip] #2996393
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