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Trump Is NOT A Racist: Change My Mind. #2993911
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Were some of you there when this was filmed?



What's the difference between conservatives and liberals?

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I thought you were finally going to explain why is Trump not a racist in a coherent argument put together with your own words.

What was I thinking. LOL

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I'm pretty sure that he hates Donkeys, so he's at least a speciesist.


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He is a racist.

What do I win?


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Originally Posted by 1whoknows


and????


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Originally Posted by Duffy
He is a racist.

What do I win?

A 1 week all inclusive vacation at Turtle Bay with Stormy Daniels.


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and????

And your idea of good waves is San Clemente. Sad. I mean, it has its days, but.... hundreds of millions of people worldwide KNOW that trump is a racist. You’re an outlier. You and team Duck Dynasty. This conversation is ridiculous. Is Elle McPherson beautiful? Um, yeah.


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Grommie, tell us in your words why Trumby is not a racist. Use your words. You can do it, champ.


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Grommie, tell us in your words why Trumby is not a racist. Use your words. You can do it, champ.

Oh, ya' got him cornered now. That's some Perry F-ing Mason level cross examination right there!
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Once somebody's mind is made up over things like this it's almost impossible to change it with facts or reasoned argument. True for all sides and all points of view on almost any controversial subject.


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Originally Posted by hammies
Once somebody's mind is made up over things like this it's almost impossible to change it with facts or reasoned argument. True for all sides and all points of view on almost any controversial subject.

Spoken like a true Centrist. Moo.


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He's never said or done anything racist, he just is one.


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The deference given to veterans is insane. They signed up, did their job and got paid for it. Fine.
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he stokes racial discord.


incompetence is preferable to malice.
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Originally Posted by Autoprax


he stokes racial discord.




.....amongst White "progressives".


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Originally Posted by Autoprax


he stokes racial discord.






So he stokes imaginary racism in imaginary racists? I see the democratic parties point now.


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The deference given to veterans is insane. They signed up, did their job and got paid for it. Fine.
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Originally Posted by Coat Hanger
Originally Posted by Autoprax


he stokes racial discord.





So he stokes imaginary racism in imaginary racists? I see the democratic parties point now.



who said that?


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MOAR RACISM



Originally Posted By: StuAzole
The deference given to veterans is insane. They signed up, did their job and got paid for it. Fine.
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He’s going down swinging. Big mouth on that unfaithful psychopath.


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Mexicans are rapists. Judge Curiel can’t preside over the Trump U lawsuit because he is Hispanic. Cummings is stupid. So is Don Lemon. John Lewis too. Also, Maxine Waters. And Lebron James. But it’s okay, Trump “likes Mike”! April Ryan, the black reporter, asks “stupid questions.”

African countries are “shitholes.” Baltimore is vermin. Immigrants are “invading” and “infesting” America. The four minority congresswomen — go back,

But hey, Nazis are “fine people,”

Trump’s racism speaks for itself.

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If so, why did you just post a bunch of outright lies and out of context distortions?


What's the difference between conservatives and liberals?

Conservatives get angry when you lie to them. Liberals get angry when you tell
them the truth.
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It doesn’t matter what your reply is, Grommie will say you’re wrong, racism doesn’t exist, and that he proved you wrong once and for all.

What he doesn’t seem to understand is that there’s no way to objectively prove that someone is or isn’t racist.

You’re racist or not racist according to the court of popular opinion.

In Trumby’s case the court of popular opinion has spoken loud and clear, both within the United States and outside the country. Trumby is a racist.


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Originally Posted by GromsDad
If so, why did you just post a bunch of outright lies and out of context distortions?


Are you denying he called Mexicans rapists? That he said Curiel should not preside because he’s Hispanic? “Go back”? What exactly are you denying?

Do you see that while he insults everyone (crooked Hillary, sleepy joe, low energy jeb) he predominantly reserves insults about intelligence to black people (and women)?

He said Nazis have “fine people,”

Where are the lies and distortions?

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One things for sure, crowder is no more capable of giving an honest assessment of trumps actions than any deranged lefty.

It’s a good troll/virtue signal though.

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Originally Posted by Uberkuque
Originally Posted by GromsDad
If so, why did you just post a bunch of outright lies and out of context distortions?


Are you denying he called Mexicans rapists? That he said Curiel should not preside because he’s Hispanic? “Go back”? What exactly are you denying?

Do you see that while he insults everyone (crooked Hillary, sleepy joe, low energy jeb) he predominantly reserves insults about intelligence to black people (and women)?

He said Nazis have “fine people,”

Where are the lies and distortions?


Didn't call Mexicans rapists.

Didn't say Curiel should not preside because he was hispanic

Never said nazi's were or had fine people.

Why do you lie so much?


Originally Posted By: StuAzole
The deference given to veterans is insane. They signed up, did their job and got paid for it. Fine.
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Originally Posted by Coat Hanger
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Originally Posted by GromsDad
If so, why did you just post a bunch of outright lies and out of context distortions?


Are you denying he called Mexicans rapists? That he said Curiel should not preside because he’s Hispanic? “Go back”? What exactly are you denying?

Do you see that while he insults everyone (crooked Hillary, sleepy joe, low energy jeb) he predominantly reserves insults about intelligence to black people (and women)?

He said Nazis have “fine people,”

Where are the lies and distortions?


Didn't call Mexicans rapists.

Didn't say Curiel should not preside because he was hispanic

Never said nazi's were or had fine people.

Why do you lie so much?



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Originally Posted by Coat Hanger
Originally Posted by Uberkuque
Originally Posted by GromsDad
If so, why did you just post a bunch of outright lies and out of context distortions?


Are you denying he called Mexicans rapists? That he said Curiel should not preside because he’s Hispanic? “Go back”? What exactly are you denying?

Do you see that while he insults everyone (crooked Hillary, sleepy joe, low energy jeb) he predominantly reserves insults about intelligence to black people (and women)?

He said Nazis have “fine people,”

Where are the lies and distortions?


Didn't call Mexicans rapists.

Didn't say Curiel should not preside because he was hispanic

Never said nazi's were or had fine people.

Why do you lie so much?


I’ll take your incontrovertibly false response as an admission that, yes, what he said was racist

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And you're still lying


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And you're still lying



You’re lying by saying I’m lying.

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Trump’s comments about Curiel


TAPPER: What does this have to do with his heritage?
TRUMP: I'll tell you what it has to do. I've had ruling after ruling after ruling that's been bad rulings, OK? I've been treated very unfairly. Before him, we had another judge. If that judge was still there, this case would have been over two years ago.
Let me just tell you, I've had horrible rulings, I've been treated very unfairly by this judge. Now, this judge is of Mexican heritage. I'm building a wall, OK? I'm building a wall. I am going to do very well with the Hispanics, the Mexicans --
TAPPER: So, no Mexican judge could ever be involved in a case that involves you?
TRUMP: Well, he's a member of a society, where -- you know, very pro-Mexico, and that's fine. It's all fine, but --
TAPPER: Except that you're calling into question his heritage.
TRUMP: I think he should recuse himself.
TAPPER: Because he's Latino?
TRUMP: Then, you also say, does he know the lawyer on the other side? I mean, does he know the lawyer? You know, a lot of people say --
TAPPER: But I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about --
TRUMP: That's another problem.
TAPPER: You're invoking his race, talking about whether or not he can do his job.
TRUMP: Jake, I'm building a wall. OK? I'm building a wall. I'm trying to keep business out of Mexico. Mexico's fine.
TAPPER: But he's an American.
TRUMP: He's of Mexican heritage and he's very proud of it,
as I am where I come from, my parents.
TAPPER: But he's an American. You keep talking about it's a conflict of interest because of Mexico.
TRUMP: Jake, are you ready? I have a case that should have already been dismissed. I have thousands of people saying Trump University is fantastic, OK? I have a case that should have been dismissed. A judge that never, ever gives -- now, we lose the plaintiff. He lets the plaintiff of the case out.
So, why isn't he calling the case? So, we thought we won the case.
TAPPER: So, you disagree with his rulings. I totally understand that.
TRUMP: I've had lawyers come up to me and say, you are being treated so unfairly. It's unbelievable. You know the plaintiffs in the case have all said wonderful things about the school and they're suing. You know why they're suing? Because they want to get their money back.
TAPPER: I don't want to really litigate the case of Trump University.
TRUMP: You have to, because if he was giving me fair rulings, I wouldn't say that.
TAPPER: My question is --
TRUMP: Jake, if you were giving me fair rulings, I wouldn't be talking to you this way. He's given me horrible rulings.
TAPPER: I don't care if you criticize him, that's fine. You can criticize every decision. What I'm saying, if you invoke his race as a reason why he can't do his job.
TRUMP: I think that's why he's doing it. I think that's why he's doing it.

TAPPER: When Hillary Clinton says it's a racist attack --
TRUMP: Hillary Clinton is a stiff. If Hillary Clinton becomes president --
TAPPER: Paul Ryan today -- Paul Ryan today said he didn't care for the way that you are attacking this judge.
TRUMP: Look, I'm just telling you, Paul Ryan doesn't know the case. Here's the story --
TAPPER: Isn't it the --
TRUMP: I should have won this case on summary judgment. This is not a -- this is a case I should have won on summary judgment. You know, the law firm paid Hillary Clinton hundreds of thousands of dollars to make speeches. You know the law firm --
TAPPER: I do. And we reported -- we reported it on my show.
TRUMP: OK. I'm glad. You're the only one.
(CROSSTALK)
TRUMP: Wait a minute. A law firm paid hundreds and thousands of dollars to Hillary Clinton for speeches.
TAPPER: Before either of you --
TRUMP: She wasn't working. Everyone fell asleep during a speech, OK?
TAPPER: Before either of you were running for president, they did.
But here's the final fundamental question --
TRUMP: Do you know they've contributed tremendous amounts of money to her campaign?
TAPPER: Yes.
TRUMP: Do you know they contributed a lot of money to Eric Schneiderman, the New York attorney general?
TAPPER: Here's my question --
TRUMP: No, no, do you know that?
TAPPER: I did not know that.
TRUMP: Did you know they went to every attorney general practically in the country that they could and did you know this case was turned down by almost every attorney general from Texas to Florida and to many other states?
TAPPER: Is it not -- when Hillary Clinton says this is a racist attack, and you reject that -- if you're saying he can't do his job because of his race, is that not the definition of racism?
TRUMP: No. I don't think so at all.
TAPPER: No?
TRUMP: No. He's proud of his heritage. I respect him for that.
TAPPER: But you're saying you can't do his job because of that.
TRUMP: Look, he's proud of his heritage, OK? I'm building a wall.
Now, I think I'm going to do very well with Hispanics because they are going to get jobs right now. They are going to get jobs. I think I'm going to do very well with Hispanics.
We are building a wall. He's a Mexican. We're building a wall between here and Mexico.

The answer is, he is giving us very unfair rulings, rulings that people can't even believe. This case should have ended years ago in summary judgment. The best lawyers, I have spoken to so many lawyers, they said, this is not a case. This is a case that should have ended.
TAPPER: I --
TRUMP: This judge is giving us unfair rulings. Now, I say why? Well, I'm building a wall, OK? And it's a wall between Mexico. Not another [b]country.[/b]
TAPPER: But he's not from Mexico. He's from Indiana.
TRUMP: He's of Mexican heritage and he's very proud of it.

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And you're still lying



You’re lying by saying I’m lying.

I know you are but what am I


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Some Mexicans are rapists, and the ones that happen to work as coyotes tend to be rapists in higher numbers than the general public. Some Americans are rapists as well, is that also a racist statement?

He never said Nazis are fine people either, he said there were fine people on both sides in Charlottesville. Not even close to every single person on the Right during Charlottesville were Nazis, just like not every single person on the Left were Antifa

And if you take even a tiny shred of perspective on how Trump is a dumbass in the interview about Curiel, you can tell he's trying to say that Curiel is biased because of his pro-Mexico stances, not simply because he's Mexican. Sure, it sounds like that on the surface but we have to remember Trump is not a smart or well-spoken man. Don't attribute stupidity as malice


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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Some Mexicans are rapists, and the ones that happen to work as coyotes tend to be rapists in higher numbers than the general public. Some Americans are rapists as well, is that also a racist statement?


But nobody said that some Americans are rapists.

Do you see how fvcking stupid that statement would be?

Besides that, you would be told that you hate America.

But because it's Mexicans, it's fine with you.

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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Some Mexicans are rapists, and the ones that happen to work as coyotes tend to be rapists in higher numbers than the general public. Some Americans are rapists as well, is that also a racist statement?

He never said Nazis are fine people either, he said there were fine people on both sides in Charlottesville. Not even close to every single person on the Right during Charlottesville were Nazis, just like not every single person on the Left were Antifa

And if you take even a tiny shred of perspective on how Trump is a dumbass in the interview about Curiel, you can tell he's trying to say that Curiel is biased because of his pro-Mexico stances, not simply because he's Mexican. Sure, it sounds like that on the surface but we have to remember Trump is not a smart or well-spoken man. Don't attribute stupidity as malice



Full-on pretzel logic in defense of who you acknowledge is an unabashed idiot.

In fact judging from the curiel interview trump is so stupid he did not even know or realize it is discriminatory to force his recusal because he is Hispanic.

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Some Mexicans are rapists, and the ones that happen to work as coyotes tend to be rapists in higher numbers than the general public. Some Americans are rapists as well, is that also a racist statement?


But nobody said that some Americans are rapists.

Do you see how fvcking stupid that statement would be?

Besides that, you would be told that you hate America.

But because it's Mexicans, it's fine with you.


Duh. The clear implication is that Mexicans are more likely to be rapists.

But! Trump is too stupid to be racist. So there!

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Originally Posted by Uberkuque
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Some Mexicans are rapists, and the ones that happen to work as coyotes tend to be rapists in higher numbers than the general public. Some Americans are rapists as well, is that also a racist statement?


But nobody said that some Americans are rapists.

Do you see how fvcking stupid that statement would be?

Besides that, you would be told that you hate America.

But because it's Mexicans, it's fine with you.


Duh. The clear implication is that Mexicans are more likely to be rapists.

But! Trump is too stupid to be racist. So there!

No, there is no implication that ALL Mexicans are racist. That's why the American example was used

When you look for racism everywhere, you find it


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Mexican is not a race. It's like saying you are American.

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Originally Posted by ifallalot
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Some Mexicans are rapists, and the ones that happen to work as coyotes tend to be rapists in higher numbers than the general public. Some Americans are rapists as well, is that also a racist statement?


But nobody said that some Americans are rapists.

Do you see how fvcking stupid that statement would be?

Besides that, you would be told that you hate America.

But because it's Mexicans, it's fine with you.


Duh. The clear implication is that Mexicans are more likely to be rapists.

But! Trump is too stupid to be racist. So there!

No, there is no implication that ALL Mexicans are racist. That's why the American example was used

When you look for racism everywhere, you find it


Imagine if someone said that America is sending their rapists and murderers to their country, which has no basis in reality.

It's a sheer mischaracterization that insults and denigrates the entire nation and a huge population of immigrants.

The only reason someone would say that is if they hate Americans.

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Mexican is not a race. It's like saying you are American.


So what do you call that type of bigotry then?

Give me a word that describes that type of behavior accurately and I will not say the R word ever again.

Thanks.

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Nationalism, and it's unfair to call it bigotry. Mexico looks out for its own interests. They normally turn around the illegals south of them. They've let them through to spite Trump.

Assuming that all Mexico is one homogeneous race is hugely racist and ignorant. Offensive too.

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Nationalism, and it's unfair to call it bigotry. Mexico looks out for its own interests. They normally turn around the illegals south of them. They've let them through to spite Trump.

Assuming that all Mexico is one homogeneous race is hugely racist and ignorant. Offensive too.



To call Mexican immigrants rapists and murderers is not nationalism.

Not even close. Not that nationalism is a good thing.

He's directly denigrating Mexican immigrants using a lie, not just elevating America to pedestal, which is what nationalism would be.

Try again.

It's also funny that you think that presuming that Mexico is one homogeneous race is hugely racist and ignorant but you think that calling them rapists and murderers is not.




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"When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best," Trump said. "They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." - Donald Trump

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We all know the quote.

What point are you trying to make?

I think that's a pretty horrible thing for a president to say.

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"When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best," Trump said. "They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." - Donald Trump


And?

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As you go up the thread there seemed to be some debate about what was actually said.

So, there it is. The entire quote.

You're both welcome.

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Originally Posted by Uberkuque
Mexicans are rapists. Judge Curiel can’t preside over the Trump U lawsuit because he is Hispanic. Cummings is stupid. So is Don Lemon. John Lewis too. Also, Maxine Waters. And Lebron James. But it’s okay, Trump “likes Mike”! April Ryan, the black reporter, asks “stupid questions.”

African countries are “shitholes.” Baltimore is vermin. Immigrants are “invading” and “infesting” America. The four minority congresswomen — go back,

But hey, Nazis are “fine people,”

Trump’s racism speaks for itself.



Its not difficult to see the pattern.

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We all know the quote.

What point are you trying to make?

I think that's a pretty horrible thing for a president to say.

Why?

It is factual, and if any other President said it, we would have never heard another word about it

When you look for racism everywhere, you find it everywhere


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Originally Posted by ifallalot
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We all know the quote.

What point are you trying to make?

I think that's a pretty horrible thing for a president to say.

Why?

It is factual, and if any other President said it, we would have never heard another word about it

When you look for racism everywhere, you find it everywhere

Well, you turned into a delusional Trumptard, congrats.

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Originally Posted by frvcvs
Originally Posted by Uberkuque
Mexicans are rapists. Judge Curiel can’t preside over the Trump U lawsuit because he is Hispanic. Cummings is stupid. So is Don Lemon. John Lewis too. Also, Maxine Waters. And Lebron James. But it’s okay, Trump “likes Mike”! April Ryan, the black reporter, asks “stupid questions.”

African countries are “shitholes.” Baltimore is vermin. Immigrants are “invading” and “infesting” America. The four minority congresswomen — go back,

But hey, Nazis are “fine people,”

Trump’s racism speaks for itself.



Its not difficult to see the pattern.



The only pattern I see is you lefties being disingenuous and dishonest.


What's the difference between conservatives and liberals?

Conservatives get angry when you lie to them. Liberals get angry when you tell
them the truth.
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Originally Posted by GromsDad
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Originally Posted by Uberkuque
Mexicans are rapists. Judge Curiel can’t preside over the Trump U lawsuit because he is Hispanic. Cummings is stupid. So is Don Lemon. John Lewis too. Also, Maxine Waters. And Lebron James. But it’s okay, Trump “likes Mike”! April Ryan, the black reporter, asks “stupid questions.”

African countries are “shitholes.” Baltimore is vermin. Immigrants are “invading” and “infesting” America. The four minority congresswomen — go back,

But hey, Nazis are “fine people,”

Trump’s racism speaks for itself.



Its not difficult to see the pattern.



The only pattern I see is you lefties being disingenuous and dishonest.


I’m not a “leftist,” whatever that means. I’m a common-sensist.

You on the other hand are a cultist, as shown by your abject refusal to hold Trump to any — any! — standards.

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I’m a common-sensist.



The only party that should exist. How about human being-ist?

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Originally Posted by Uberkuque
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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Some Mexicans are rapists, and the ones that happen to work as coyotes tend to be rapists in higher numbers than the general public. Some Americans are rapists as well, is that also a racist statement?


But nobody said that some Americans are rapists.

Do you see how fvcking stupid that statement would be?

Besides that, you would be told that you hate America.

But because it's Mexicans, it's fine with you.


Duh. The clear implication is that Mexicans are more likely to be rapists.

But! Trump is too stupid to be racist. So there!



No, the clear implication for anyone with a functioning brain is that Trump meant what he said, that the Mexicans coming across the border aren't the best and the brightest, and that many of them are criminals, murdererd and rapists. This is all supported by FBI crime statistics. We see the same thing here in the US. Crime and criminals are concentrated in the poorer communities.


....and Judge Curiel is a card carrying member of La Raza. A person who believes that the US belongs to Mexico......even though we took it fair and square by killing the men, raping the women, stealing the horses and breaking all the clay pots.

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Originally Posted by Uberkuque
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Originally Posted by Uberkuque
Mexicans are rapists. Judge Curiel can’t preside over the Trump U lawsuit because he is Hispanic. Cummings is stupid. So is Don Lemon. John Lewis too. Also, Maxine Waters. And Lebron James. But it’s okay, Trump “likes Mike”! April Ryan, the black reporter, asks “stupid questions.”

African countries are “shitholes.” Baltimore is vermin. Immigrants are “invading” and “infesting” America. The four minority congresswomen — go back,

But hey, Nazis are “fine people,”

Trump’s racism speaks for itself.



Its not difficult to see the pattern.



The only pattern I see is you lefties being disingenuous and dishonest.


I’m not a “leftist,” whatever that means. I’m a common-sensist.

You on the other hand are a cultist, as shown by your abject refusal to hold Trump to any — any! — standards.


What standards do you have if you're going to post a string of distortions and outright lies like that?


What's the difference between conservatives and liberals?

Conservatives get angry when you lie to them. Liberals get angry when you tell
them the truth.
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Originally Posted by Coat Hanger
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Some Mexicans are rapists, and the ones that happen to work as coyotes tend to be rapists in higher numbers than the general public. Some Americans are rapists as well, is that also a racist statement?


But nobody said that some Americans are rapists.

Do you see how fvcking stupid that statement would be?

Besides that, you would be told that you hate America.

But because it's Mexicans, it's fine with you.


Duh. The clear implication is that Mexicans are more likely to be rapists.

But! Trump is too stupid to be racist. So there!



No, the clear implication for anyone with a functioning brain is that Trump meant what he said, that the Mexicans coming across the border aren't the best and the brightest, and that many of them are criminals, murdererd and rapists. This is all supported by FBI crime statistics. We see the same thing here in the US. Crime and criminals are concentrated in the poorer communities.


....and Judge Curiel is a card carrying member of La Raza. A person who believes that the US belongs to Mexico......even though we took it fair and square by killing the men, raping the women, stealing the horses and breaking all the clay pots.



You parse trump’s words to the point of meaninglessness. What trump wanted to (and did) convey was that Mexicans = increased rates of rape, drug dealing, and crime.

That aside, your argument that illegal immigration increases crime is contrary to almost all available evidence, a quick google search will show you that.

(That said, I want to be clear I do not suppport an “open border” policy.)

As for Curiel — trump’s own words speak for themselves. I’ll leave it at that.

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Originally Posted by GromsDad
Originally Posted by Uberkuque
Originally Posted by GromsDad
Originally Posted by frvcvs
Originally Posted by Uberkuque
Mexicans are rapists. Judge Curiel can’t preside over the Trump U lawsuit because he is Hispanic. Cummings is stupid. So is Don Lemon. John Lewis too. Also, Maxine Waters. And Lebron James. But it’s okay, Trump “likes Mike”! April Ryan, the black reporter, asks “stupid questions.”

African countries are “shitholes.” Baltimore is vermin. Immigrants are “invading” and “infesting” America. The four minority congresswomen — go back,

But hey, Nazis are “fine people,”

Trump’s racism speaks for itself.



Its not difficult to see the pattern.



The only pattern I see is you lefties being disingenuous and dishonest.


I’m not a “leftist,” whatever that means. I’m a common-sensist.

You on the other hand are a cultist, as shown by your abject refusal to hold Trump to any — any! — standards.


What standards do you have if you're going to post a string of distortions and outright lies like that?


Still waiting for you to identify what “distortions and outright lies” you are talking about.

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Every single thing you posted in that post


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That dummy still believes the "fine people" lie. Good grief. Bet he watches a lot of MSNBC.


What's the difference between conservatives and liberals?

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Originally Posted by GromsDad
That dummy still believes the "fine people" lie. Good grief. Bet he watches a lot of MSNBC.


He said there were fine people on both sides, one of which was a white supremacist nazi group. Where is the lie?

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That dummy still believes the "fine people" lie. Good grief. Bet he watches a lot of MSNBC.


He said there were fine people on both sides, one of which was a white supremacist nazi group. Where is the lie?

This is where you're either purposefully distorting or just misinformed

Not everyone on the Right side in Charlottesville, or anywhere else, are white supremacists


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Originally Posted by Uberkuque
Originally Posted by GromsDad
That dummy still believes the "fine people" lie. Good grief. Bet he watches a lot of MSNBC.


He said there were fine people on both sides, one of which was a white supremacist nazi group. Where is the lie?


Completely out of context and mis-represented over and over and over again. You're a victim of propaganda.


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Originally Posted by GromsDad
Originally Posted by Uberkuque
Originally Posted by GromsDad
That dummy still believes the "fine people" lie. Good grief. Bet he watches a lot of MSNBC.


He said there were fine people on both sides, one of which was a white supremacist nazi group. Where is the lie?


Completely out of context and mis-represented over and over and over again. You're a victim of propaganda.



Getting a straight answer out of you is like pulling teeth. If you can’t identify this so called “lie,” sit down in the corner and keep your mouth shut like a good boy.

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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Every single thing you posted in that post

Desperately defending a public servant like a good subject.

Where’s that universal antipathy you were virtue signaling about yesterday?

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Originally Posted by Uberkuque
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Some Mexicans are rapists, and the ones that happen to work as coyotes tend to be rapists in higher numbers than the general public. Some Americans are rapists as well, is that also a racist statement?


But nobody said that some Americans are rapists.

Do you see how fvcking stupid that statement would be?

Besides that, you would be told that you hate America.

But because it's Mexicans, it's fine with you.


Duh. The clear implication is that Mexicans are more likely to be rapists.

But! Trump is too stupid to be racist. So there!



No, the clear implication for anyone with a functioning brain is that Trump meant what he said, that the Mexicans coming across the border aren't the best and the brightest, and that many of them are criminals, murdererd and rapists. This is all supported by FBI crime statistics. We see the same thing here in the US. Crime and criminals are concentrated in the poorer communities.


....and Judge Curiel is a card carrying member of La Raza. A person who believes that the US belongs to Mexico......even though we took it fair and square by killing the men, raping the women, stealing the horses and breaking all the clay pots.



You parse trump’s words to the point of meaninglessness. What trump wanted to (and did) convey was that Mexicans = increased rates of rape, drug dealing, and crime.

That aside, your argument that illegal immigration increases crime is contrary to almost all available evidence, a quick google search will show you that.

(That said, I want to be clear I do not suppport an “open border” policy.)

As for Curiel — trump’s own words speak for themselves. I’ll leave it at that.



Too bad there's not a video.




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Originally Posted by Uberkuque
Originally Posted by GromsDad
Originally Posted by Uberkuque
Originally Posted by GromsDad
That dummy still believes the "fine people" lie. Good grief. Bet he watches a lot of MSNBC.


He said there were fine people on both sides, one of which was a white supremacist nazi group. Where is the lie?


Completely out of context and mis-represented over and over and over again. You're a victim of propaganda.



Getting a straight answer out of you is like pulling teeth. If you can’t identify this so called “lie,” sit down in the corner and keep your mouth shut like a good boy.


Why don't you look up the full body of the statement from which those cherry picked words were pulled. If you had an ounce of integrity you'd have already done that on your own.


What's the difference between conservatives and liberals?

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Originally Posted by manbearpig
Originally Posted by ifallalot
Every single thing you posted in that post

Desperately defending a public servant like a good subject.

Where’s that universal antipathy you were virtue signaling about yesterday?

Your schtick is tired


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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Every single thing you posted in that post

Desperately defending a public servant like a good subject.

Where’s that universal antipathy you were virtue signaling about yesterday?

Your schtick is tired

That makes two of us.

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Ahead of you. Some context: this was a “Unite the Right” rally — I.e., a white supremacist event.

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REPORTER: You said there was hatred and violence on both sides —

TRUMP: Well, I do think there’s blame, yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. You look at both sides. I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it. And you don’t have any doubt about it either. And, and if you reported it accurately, you would say it.

[CROSSTALK]

TRUMP: Excuse me. You had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group, excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park, from Robert E. Lee to another name.

George Washington was a slave-owner. Was George Washington a slave-owner? So will George Washington now lose his status — are we going to take down — excuse me. Are we going to take down statues of George Washington? How 'bout Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him? Ok, good. Are we going to take down the statue because he was a major slave-owner? Now we’re going to take down his statue. So you know what, it’s fine. You’re changing history, you’re changing culture. And you had people, and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis or the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, ok? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.

—————

Trump said white supremacists have fine people. Then he talks out of both sides of his mouth and says “hey I condemn white supremacy.” This is where trump is an idiot savant, with his skill of manipulation and deception: he conflicts himself, so that he can say his message (“fine people!”) and yet deny saying it (“Nazis should be condemned”).

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Do you guys deny trump is stoking division with his rhetoric?

Do you deny he's a venal psychopath?

If Hillary was president doing what trump was doing would you be defending her as aggressively as you defend trump?


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Ahead of you. Some context: this was a “Unite the Right” rally — I.e., a white supremacist event.

More distortion


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Do you guys deny trump is stoking division with his rhetoric?

Do you deny he's a venal psychopath?

If Hillary was president doing what trump was doing would you be defending her as aggressively as you defend trump?


No, but your ilk would


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Originally Posted by ifallalot
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Ahead of you. Some context: this was a “Unite the Right” rally — I.e., a white supremacist event.

More distortion

roflmao

Denial to the last breath.

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Apparently ifall/grom think this was some kind of benign rally to protest the removal of confederate statues and that trump was only saying that these people had "fine people." But those people shared their rally with supremacists and in fact welcomed them. So even indulging trump's idiotic contradictions and misstatements, he still praised as having some "fine people" a group who knowingly marched in lockstep w nazis, even if they themselves were not nazis. So any distinction ifall etc etc is trying to make is meaningless anyway.

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Whatever makes you feel ok about your distortions, go for it. You're still wrong though.


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Installment 2.





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It should be Trump is not a venal psychopath.

Change my mind.


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But he's not a racist.


What's the difference between conservatives and liberals?

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But he uses race issues to create division, just like the left.

Are you guys pretending not to see this or just dumb?

Does Crowder not see this either?

A venal psychopath who plays the race card is worse than a racist, BTW.


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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Whatever makes you feel ok about your distortions, go for it. You're still wrong though.


I wish you can explain with words why are you constantly defending neo-fascist garbage and denying what they stand for but you are somehow not one of them.

It doesn't make sense.

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