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Grandview Bluff Collapse #2991311
08/02/19 11:09 PM
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1 dead, 3 injured

Prayers to all involved. Happened around 3pm. Was anyone down there?


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What a terrible tragedy. I was there yesterday.

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damn.

r.i.p.

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i was hopingf it killed more surfers

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What a shame. There have been a number of people killed and injured along this section of bluffs in the last 30+ years. There is an other chunk adjacent to the northern margin of the current failure that is ready to go. Waves cut into the bottom of the sandstone portion of the cliff (the vertical to overhanging part). Once it cuts far enough, the block falls or topples to the beach. If you are sitting up against the base of the cliff you are in serious danger.

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i was in the water a couple hundred yards south of there, the first lifeguard truck went blazing north sirens blaring fast as i've ever seen them drive on the beach, then another one, they stopped at Grandview and i could see a crowd but not tell what happened, another guy and i were talking about all the shark sightings recently just prior to this and we were like oh crap, then a while later we saw the life flight helicopter, then not to much later news copters were flying around above us and to the north. a lifeguard truck finally came back south from there and didn't say to get out of the water so we figured it wasn't a shark attack and kept surfing, when i got out i heard it was a bluff collapse, pretty scary and sad, i guess the women's body is still there waiting for the coroner, and they are trying to rush to get some heavy equipment there to lift some huge chunks to make sure nobody else is under there, they had live rescue dogs but waiting on cadaver dogs. friday night north county is not easy to get to with all the traffic wherever they are coming from. i tell people with kids not to sit under the bluffs all the time, sometimes people listen and sometimes they ignore me... this was right next to the life guard tower at grandview like 25 feet. that guard and some beach goers were digging right away and then other first responders were arriving, so gnarly..

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sharks chased her out of the water , she made it to land, and the cliff fell on her.
come to encinitas and u will die



on a serious note: rip

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Ugh. Not surprised, but what a horrific tragedy. To those joking about the loss of life, you f'ing suck.
RIP to anyone lost.


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" this was right next to the life guard tower at grandview like 25 feet. that guard and some beach goers were digging right away and then other first responders were arriving, so gnarly.."

Many is the time I have paddled out right there at a high tide. Very sad. My heart goes out to those who were hurt or passed.

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" To those joking about the loss of life, you f'ing suck.
RIP to anyone lost.
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Exactly. Karma's a bitch.

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Sad. What a horrible way to die.

Too bad there is not enough awareness about this kind of stuff.

Signs clearly don't work. Up against the cliffs at Blacks is the cool place to hang out.

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A female was killed but not immediately recovered (awaiting coroner). Two of the injured medivac’d to hospitals have died despite trauma teams best efforts. Drunjk, fail...

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F()CK.....just F()CK.

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goddamn, what a bummer.

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sh!t....dear lord...they sought some good sh!t you made...fuggggg

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This is very sad. These bare sandstone cliffs from Carlsbad to La Jolla all have potential for this. Some less, some more. Signs all over telling people to stay back, but ignored as usual.

I've seen my share of cliff collapses at Blacks and Carlsbad since the 70's (some huge ones at Blacks) to seek my hang-out spot carefully, and never backing right up to the cliff side, if at all possible. Even at Blacks, there's only a couple spots I used to stash my stuff on the cliffs, before I decided to hang post surf. Usually that one spot where it's not vertical above and looks like a very old cliff collapse (large pile of crumbled dirt), so no section waiting to drop. Even then I'd stay out a ways from the cliffs.

What's really tragic, is that this bluff failure looks pretty small compared to most, and it still killed 3 people.

There's water tables that seep out of those cliffs all over Encinitas, and I would imagine after a wet winter, the seepage increases and weakens stretches that are already compromised due to lack of sand beach and high tides eating at the bases.

Be careful and conscious where you park it on the sand in those North County SD cliff areas. These cliff failures are like lightning strikes waiting to happen. Rare, but not uncommon.


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Crazy stuff. Still can’t believe it. Walk past the unstable cliff signs daily. Watch kids scurry up where they can, throw rocks, etc. kids stuff. One of those things you know can happen but never think will.

Thoughts for the families impacted.

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Seeing the picture surfysurfy posted on their insta extremely sad. Rest in peace

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cliffs are always crumbling
buncha huge sandstone rocks fell on my bike and wrecked it once, i was in the water
i always tell people hangin out under the cliff...

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That is where I learned to surf. It was called Tomato Patch way back then. No condos up there and used to have to use a rope to get down to the beach.

Part of the problem is growing that crap ground cover on the cliffs that isn't supposed to be there. It doesn't help, it makes it worse. When they water it from up above it just makes it heavy. Then when it gets super hot in the summer, the cliffs start cracking from the heavy weight from above. They need to get rid of all that useless ground cover.

So sad.

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Three members of an Encinitas children’s dentist family celebrating his birthday or a family member’s successful battle with cancer at the beach. Just tragic...

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Coincidence that a major hotel is under construction a couple of hundred yards away. That was no slide, a
solid block of sandstone just tipped over and flattened them. Just wrong.


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Originally Posted by john4surf
Three members of an Encinitas children’s dentist family celebrating his birthday at the beach. Just tragic...


How do you know this?

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Originally Posted by noone
Originally Posted by john4surf
Three members of an Encinitas children’s dentist family celebrating his birthday at the beach. Just tragic...


How do you know this?


I can confirm- long time locals and the family is dentists to a good swath of kids in the area. Everyone knows the bluffs “could” collapse but it’s sorta like being struck by lightning here. Such a tragic day.


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Originally Posted by StuAzole
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Originally Posted by john4surf
Three members of an Encinitas children’s dentist family celebrating his birthday at the beach. Just tragic...


How do you know this?


I can confirm- long time locals and the family is dentists to a good swath of kids in the area. Everyone knows the bluffs “could” collapse but it’s sorta like being struck by lightning here. Such a tragic day.



How awful! Who is it? I saw two women's names were identified. I grew up there in Leucadia, so I wonder if I know them.

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My grand kid’s dentist. Not appropriate to name drop unless it’s made public.

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noone...agree on the watering/development on the bluff...that combined with the erosion led to this tragedy...

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Originally Posted by john4surf
My grand kid’s dentist. Not appropriate to name drop unless it’s made public.

Completely understand. Just so sorry for all involved.

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So sad, this hits close to home. RIP

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RIP. It's happened around here a few times in Capitola between the hook and privates.

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RIP. Fckn tragic. Life is precious for sure.


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The waves had been smashing the cliff the night before. That beach in particular is always wet sand, with the tides reaching the cliff regularly.

Here's a link to video from 11-2015. https://vimeo.com/147415830

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RIP. That just sucks.
My friend and I were kicking back at the base of the cliff at Perko's when the Coalinga quake hit, all kinds of dirt and rocks was falling around us, we were like, WTF?
We found out what happened later after we got back to Gaviota.
Remember that MASSIVE slide at Blacks?

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That huge slide at Blacks back in the early 90's (I think? Or was it late 80's?) change the beach there for months, if not a year or so.

High tide was kind of a hassle walking over all the rocks and debri and large boulders.

This one is particularly saddening, as it took a large chunk of a family with it.


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I remember sitting in the water at Blacks and seeing a giant chunk of cliff come down. No one was under it, but still pretty eye opening. Saw the same thing while in the water at Rincon. The coast is constantly changing and sea level rise will make this happen more often.

RIP.


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I heard it was hectic at the scene. Major respect to the first responder teams.

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Sad, sad story.


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I was shocked to learn that the two sisters, Julie and Elizabeth (Betsy), were my neighbors in Crown Point. They used to babysit me when I was a kid (pre-teen). Their Dad owned Charles' Seat Covers on Lamont St. in PB back in the day. I moved to north PB in '76 so hadn't been in touch for a long time. I still drive down the street once in awhile. So sad. A lot of their kids and grandkids were with them at the beach when it happened.


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Was this at moonlight beach?

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As the subject line suggests, it was Grand View (North of Moonlight).

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OMNI Resort is making that massive thing, They previous owners purchased the property from a friend of mine. i wanted to buy the property for a nice 'remodel' Outbid by a few digits very sad. they didnt want any more competition within like 3-4 miles.

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