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Re: Oversized hydronaut or Padillac? [Re: J_D_J] #2990502
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Originally Posted by J_D_J
Two thumbs down to the idea of ordering an oversized Tomo as a step up or mini gun. I would get a board that’s intended to be ridden at that length, like the Pyzel. I have an epic 6’11 Stamps. Pm me if you want the serial number for an order. That GG looks amazing too.


X2.

I would go for something that's designed to be ridden at that length rather than oversizing a Tomo. Also I'd avoid EPS (Firewire) for a step up as well. XTR would be a better option if you were to go Tomo route but as much as I dig XTR I think PU is the safest bet for a big wave board.

Many good options have already been listed in this thread.

My vote is for a gigantic channel bottomed twin fin with no rocker. hat


Re: Oversized hydronaut or Padillac? [Re: cdes] #2990504
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The Blackbird has had pretty positive feedback here. I wish I had one.

It was R&D'd in SD by the shaper himself, who is a barrel hound.



Go to Rusty and ask to speak with Clint, he will spend the time to dial you in for what you need and he's from your neck of the woods.

Someone in Hawaii or Orange County is likely not going to have that same insight. And just my opinion, that for boards for bigger waves you need that insight.

Re: Oversized hydronaut or Padillac? [Re: cdes] #2990505
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As far as the Hydronaut goes, the R&D for that board was at Baja Malibu.

You do not need to "oversize it" the dimensions can be tweaked like he did mine.

That said it sounds like you're looking for something more versatile and I think the Blackbird is along those lines.

Re: Oversized hydronaut or Padillac? [Re: cdes] #2990593
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I love my 6'8 Blackbird. Ride it at big OBSF. Does what Clint says it does. Also had an excellent custom order experience with Rusty. Placed my order through my local shop and Rick Hamon, a long time and venerable Rusty shaper, called the next day to discuss. Rick shaped the board that week and put on the next truck up to SF. About to order another Blackbird, this time 7'4. That said, I see a lot of guys on Padillacs up here, and I love my Pyzels. Padillac as a slightly flatter entry rocker and is less foiled.

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Re: Oversized hydronaut or Padillac? [Re: cdes] #2990622
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Re: Oversized hydronaut or Padillac? [Re: cdes] #2990627
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Re: Oversized hydronaut or Padillac? [Re: bluengreen] #2990638
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Originally Posted by bluengreen
I love my 6'8 Blackbird. Ride it at big OBSF. Does what Clint says it does. Also had an excellent custom order experience with Rusty. Placed my order through my local shop and Rick Hamon, a long time and venerable Rusty shaper, called the next day to discuss. Rick shaped the board that week and put on the next truck up to SF. About to order another Blackbird, this time 7'4. That said, I see a lot of guys on Padillacs up here, and I love my Pyzels. Padillac as a slightly flatter entry rocker and is less foiled.


Based on the lower entry and fuller foil, I would think Padillac would be a better paddler and wave catcher but maybe not as good for turns? It seems like The Tank from Pyzel would be a more comparable board to the Blackbird and while I haven't heard much feedback yet I don't think you can go wrong with Pyzel for a step up/gun...

Re: Oversized hydronaut or Padillac? [Re: Greg Griffin] #2990640
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Maz , Swallow Tails Are Faster ! ;-)

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I like swallows, GG, but go with rounded tails and noses for safety. Surf a lot of out of the way spots, often solo, and a long way from a hospital.

Good looking board, that!

Re: Oversized hydronaut or Padillac? [Re: cdes] #2991201
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Re: Oversized hydronaut or Padillac? [Re: cdes] #2994894
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Originally Posted by cdes
Hey all, Ive been thinking about getting a proper board for bigger days. I have some $ in the board fund after selling a few and am pretty happy with everything I have from ankle high to OH. I feel like I have the smaller wave boards dialed in as far as what works for me. Unfortunately I have no idea what will work and what will not in a bigger board.
About me: 6'4 210lbs. Like about 36L. Have a 6'3 Monsta box for HH days and a 6'5 Ghost for HH+.

Was thinking about a board for DOH days at Sunset Cliffs, a certain Mexican point break that needs a big board, or some of the other reefs around me that would help me get in early.

Hydronaut is intriguing, mostly because it is a shorter package - that might be easier to get in my car or pack in a board bag. I think I'd need to go to the biggest possible size at 6'8 to get more foam in it. I am a bit concerned by reading Casa's impressions: that it was not a great paddler. The board gets pretty wide in the larger models. Anyone had this board a few sizes bigger ?

Padillac seems to pack the foam and seems to be meant for what I am looking for. But how big do I go? At a certain point I wont be able to get the board in my car, or I wont have a board bag to travel with it.

Any thoughts? Im kind of lost trying to size this. Any rules of thumb to share? What has worked for you?



Rule of thumb: at least 1' bigger than your stepup. So I'd go 7'6'-8'0" depending on your skill level. If you want to tackle TOH go bigger. Go with the padillac and use stock dims. Also order custom to get less glass. For Ca/Baja you dont want 6+6/6.

Re: Oversized hydronaut or Padillac? [Re: cdes] #2994903
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Obviously my opinion is somewhat bias but I definitely think an oversized hydronaut is the way to go. I’ve thought about getting one as well but I don’t surf big waves enough to get one. The biggest for me personally is 5’9” but if I was surfing big waves I don’t see anything wrong with getting a 6’0 or 6’1” (other than it might be tough to engage the rails). If you need bigger than what Firewire offers as stock you can always order custom through xtr. But I think the hydronaut is the best big wave board ever. Ask Ezra about the hydronaut. He swears by it as true best big wave board he’s ever ridden. shaka


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Re: Oversized hydronaut or Padillac? [Re: deforest] #2994919
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Originally Posted by deforest
Obviously my opinion is somewhat bias but I definitely think an oversized hydronaut is the way to go. I’ve thought about getting one as well but I don’t surf big waves enough to get one. The biggest for me personally is 5’9” but if I was surfing big waves I don’t see anything wrong with getting a 6’0 or 6’1” (other than it might be tough to engage the rails). If you need bigger than what Firewire offers as stock you can always order custom through xtr. But I think the hydronaut is the best big wave board ever. Ask Ezra about the hydronaut. He swears by it as true best big wave board he’s ever ridden. shaka


Ezra is using a normal sized Hydro as a step-up. It’s not a “big wave board”. For him it’s pretty much his regular everyday board.


And the one he had that I fondled felt a lot like poly/pu to me....


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Re: Oversized hydronaut or Padillac? [Re: cdes] #2995089
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for the wave u r describing i would not go with a stub stap. go full stap or double stap


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Re: Oversized hydronaut or Padillac? [Re: cdes] #2995708
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So I ended up finding a good deal on a 6'8" Hydronaut (Im a big dude), so Im going to give it a shot. My "normal" Tomo volume would be about a 6'4" Hydronaut, so this is definitely more foam. But it is only about 1/4" thicker and 1/4" wider than my Cymatic. I guess I wont know how it'll go until we get some serious swell. If it doesnt pan out, I can always try something else later. Stoked on every other board in my quiver - just gotta dial in this board for 1% of the days!

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