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Off Duty Cop Kills Nonverbal Son/Wounds Parents at Costco!? #2969039
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What a tragic, horrible situation at Costco.. Looks really bad for the LAPD. Would like more information on this...

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He “feared for his life” rolleyes


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Another hothead idiot with a gun

Re: Off Duty Cop Kills Nonverbal Son/Wounds Parents at Costco!? [Re: bigsurfer67] #2969063
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Originally Posted by bigsurfer67
What a tragic, horrible situation at Costco.. Looks really bad for the LAPD. Would like more information on this...


shot the parents, too!

I mean....these people don't look like they have a malicious bone in their body.

fkn psychos


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This is the America gun nuts want

Shootouts in the grocery store

Maybe it would’ve been better if the other family was armed too

Then everyone could’ve been a tough guy

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Billy is pro gun control!?!?!?!?


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Originally Posted by everysurfr
Billy is pro gun control!?!?!?!?


Yes

I generally have the right ideas

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Originally Posted by BillyOcean


Originally Posted by everysurfr
Billy is pro gun control!?!?!?!?


Yes

I generally have the right ideas


that's a BIG "generally"


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Originally Posted by afoaf
Originally Posted by BillyOcean


Originally Posted by everysurfr
Billy is pro gun control!?!?!?!?


Yes

I generally have the right ideas


that's a BIG "generally"



Nobody’s perfect

It’s important to not beat yourself up

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There must be video. Costco has cameras everywhere.


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Originally Posted by frvcvs
He “feared for his life” rolleyes


Reportedly he was holding his baby in his arms. Take victims as they come, not as an average.
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Originally Posted by frvcvs
He “feared for his life” rolleyes

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The officer opened fire after Kenneth French, 32, of Riverside, assaulted him without provocation as the officer held his young child, Corona police said Saturday.


You're such a dishonest fooker.

This shooting was absolutely justified. Sure, it probably would have been better to put the kid down on the ground and just beat the shit out of the "gentle giant" (who is attacking people unprovoked) but that would have been viewed as wrong too.

I guess if you're a cop you're not allowed to protect your family. In fact, if someone with mental problems is attacking you and your kids you're just supposed to take it because "it's not their fault"

Here are some articles for all the people creating narratives in their heads

https://www.seattlepi.com/news/crim...officer-s-actions-in-Costco-14002118.php

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/costco...ut-lapd-investigation-latest-2019-06-16/

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-costco-shooting-corona-explainer-20190616-story.html


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Is walking away not an option?

The baby was uninjured btw

If you really think this situation warrants use of deadly force you really shouldn’t be armed

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Originally Posted by squidley
Originally Posted by frvcvs
He “feared for his life” rolleyes


Reportedly he was holding his baby in his arms. Take victims as they come, not as an average.
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So if you’re holding a baby you get to shoot 3 unarmed people?

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Now there was no reason to shoot the other people, but to think that a father holding his child should just "walk away" from an attack by a larger man is simply ludicrous


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Maybe, just maybe, if you have a baby in your arms, you just let the,other guy win the argument.

Q. What kind of guy gets into an argument while holding his baby, knowing secretly he has a hidden gun in his pocket?
A. A LAPD cop.


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Rank these -

- judged by twelve
- carried by six
- walk away


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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Now there was no reason to shoot the other people, but to think that a father holding his child should just "walk away" from an attack by a larger man is simply ludicrous


Why is that ludicrous ?

Is he afraid of looking like a pussy to the other people at Costco?

Kill somebody vs walking away seems like an easy choice to non hotheads

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I want to see because I want to see how it happened.

Someone got scared and the autonomic systems took over.

That is the problem with guns, the scared person with the gun overreacts and the retards die.


A threat response is a potent trigger for motivated reasoning.

"People who are right a lot listen a lot, and they change their mind a lot. . . . . They wake up and reanalyze things and change their mind. If you don't change your mind frequently, you're going to be wrong a lot."
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Originally Posted by BillyOcean
Originally Posted by ifallalot
Now there was no reason to shoot the other people, but to think that a father holding his child should just "walk away" from an attack by a larger man is simply ludicrous


Why is that ludicrous ?

Is he afraid of looking like a pussy to the other people at Costco?

Kill somebody vs walking away seems like an easy choice to non hotheads



Ifal doesn't believe in psychology.

Probably doesn't believe in neuroscience either.

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A threat response is a potent trigger for motivated reasoning.

"People who are right a lot listen a lot, and they change their mind a lot. . . . . They wake up and reanalyze things and change their mind. If you don't change your mind frequently, you're going to be wrong a lot."
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Costco Shooter is very much wishing he’d followed his mom’s advice and left his guns at home.


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I feel like if some rando started attacking me, I'd probably just lol about it

I haven't looked, but I wonder if the cop is a short dude.

short dudes can have a lot of anxiety which leads to overcompensation.


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"Kenneth French . . . had the mental capacity of a teenager,"

I know how that feels, brother.


A threat response is a potent trigger for motivated reasoning.

"People who are right a lot listen a lot, and they change their mind a lot. . . . . They wake up and reanalyze things and change their mind. If you don't change your mind frequently, you're going to be wrong a lot."
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Originally Posted by Autoprax
I want to see because I want to see how it happened.

Someone got scared and the autonomic systems took over.

That is the problem with guns, the scared person with the gun overreacts and the retards die.


My guess is the ASD guy saw the baby and wanted to touch it

LA cop probably reacted aggressively (understandable as an initial reaction), then ASD guy panicked then his parents panicked then cop guy panicked then he shot everyone

Someone who was not an idiot hothead wouldn’t have carried a gun in a grocery store and this wouldn’t have happened

A cool calm collected gun owner would’ve realized the guy was retarded and walked away

The problem with guns is most people who want to carry them are far from calm and calculating

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trump should just pardon the guy and get it over with.

A mental defective is dead. Punishing a good guy with a gun isn’t going to change that.


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Last edited by Autoprax; 06/17/19 06:03 PM.

A threat response is a potent trigger for motivated reasoning.

"People who are right a lot listen a lot, and they change their mind a lot. . . . . They wake up and reanalyze things and change their mind. If you don't change your mind frequently, you're going to be wrong a lot."
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Originally Posted by BillyOcean
Originally Posted by Autoprax
I want to see because I want to see how it happened.

Someone got scared and the autonomic systems took over.

That is the problem with guns, the scared person with the gun overreacts and the retards die.


My guess is the ASD guy saw the baby and wanted to touch it

LA cop probably reacted aggressively (understandable as an initial reaction), then ASD guy panicked then his parents panicked then cop guy panicked then he shot everyone

Someone who was not an idiot hothead wouldn’t have carried a gun in a grocery store and this wouldn’t have happened

A cool calm collected gun owner would’ve realized the guy was retarded and walked away

The problem with guns is most people who want to carry them are far from calm and calculating




Yep.

I think if you carry a gun you are looking for an excuse to use it.

It's going to prime you neurally and cognitively in a bad way.

I have a bad foot and it makes me a terrible fighter.

I'm so nice in the world and quick to run from trouble now.

If a big retarded kid starts touching my baby, I'd probably just give the retarded kid the baby, just to avoid trouble and maybe throw in a big block of Costco cheese.



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Originally Posted by 1whoknows
trump should just pardon the guy and get it over with.

A mental defective is dead. Punishing a good guy with a gun isn’t going to change that.


This could have all been avoided if the retarded guys parents had offered to abort the cop’s baby for him with his gun

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How many more gun nuts will post on this thread? Two, one, none?


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This is an example of gun nut Rambo fantasy meeting reality

It’s no different from Oberlin SJWs having to play out their fantasies in real life and realizing real life isn’t so simple

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Originally Posted by everysurfr
Maybe, just maybe, if you have a baby in your arms, you just let the,other guy win the argument.

Q. What kind of guy gets into an argument while holding his baby, knowing secretly he has a hidden gun in his pocket?
A. A LAPD cop.

This wasn't an "argument" it was an unprovoked physical attack

"Nonverbal" means something


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if they'd have armed all those old ladies handing out food samples with guns, this could have been prevented.

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Originally Posted by ifallalot

This wasn't an "argument" it was an unprovoked physical attack

"Nonverbal" means something


Cool, ifail was an eye witness. Unprovoked attack on man holding baby. Man no injured, never even has to let go of baby, who was also not hurt. Man shoots three people, an elderly couple and their developmentally delayed son.

How did this play out ifail? Describe it to us.


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Originally Posted by 1whoknows
Originally Posted by ifallalot

This wasn't an "argument" it was an unprovoked physical attack

"Nonverbal" means something


Cool, ifail was an eye witness. Unprovoked attack on man holding baby. Man no injured, never even has to let go of baby, who was also not hurt. Man shoots three people, an elderly couple and their developmentally delayed son.

How did this play out ifail? Describe it to us.


the only thing he will be able to describe is his own fear of people who are different.


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Originally Posted by 1whoknows
Originally Posted by ifallalot

This wasn't an "argument" it was an unprovoked physical attack

"Nonverbal" means something


Cool, ifail was an eye witness. Unprovoked attack on man holding baby. Man no injured, never even has to let go of baby, who was also not hurt. Man shoots three people, an elderly couple and their developmentally delayed son.

How did this play out ifail? Describe it to us.

Someone didn't read any articles....

Someone is also ignoring that its already been admitted that shooting the parents in inexcusable

But sure, let the VICTIMZ narrative get ahead of you


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What a surprise, ifailalot defending indefensible.


If only there was a good guy with a gun, you know, a law abiding citizen.

What the fück.


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I read the LA Times article. You got a better one? Preferably not published by the NRA.


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Shooting someone should be a choice of last resort

i.e., if you don’t, either you or someone else will be dead

In reality, people are pretty poor at making this judgment

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Originally Posted by 1whoknows
I read the LA Times article. You got a better one? Preferably not published by the NRA.


Surely ifailalot wouldn't publish an NRA article, since NRA is the real enemy who plays on people's fear to steal their money and sell them toys.

At least according to ifailalot v1.0


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Originally Posted by BillyOcean
Shooting someone should be a choice of last resort

i.e., if you don’t, either you or someone else will be dead

In reality, people are pretty poor at making this judgment



When you carry a gun, shooting someone is always the first resort.

Why fvck around with non-lethal stuff, it's somebody else's life anyway.


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Originally Posted by BillyOcean

The baby was uninjured btw

If you really think this situation warrants use of deadly force you really shouldn’t be armed

If you think defending your children with deadly force is not an option then- aside from not being a Man, you should not be allowed to have children.


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Originally Posted by BillyOcean
Shooting someone should be a choice of last resort

i.e., if you don’t, either you or someone else will be dead

In reality, people are pretty poor at making this judgment


I agree.

And despite what all of the standard screechers are implying to my defense of this guy, he should definitely have not shot the parents and probably shouldn't have shot the son. However, we're merely illustrating here where this guy was coming from and defending his mindset rather than jumping on the BAD COP GUN NUT SHOOTS POOR INNOCENT DISABLED VICTIM bandwagon

It's just obvious that those who think this cop is automatically the devil either have never been a father or never been a father to small children in a very, long time.


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Originally Posted by CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted by BillyOcean

The baby was uninjured btw

If you really think this situation warrants use of deadly force you really shouldn’t be armed

If you think defending your children with deadly force is not an option then- aside from not being a Man, you should not be allowed to have children.

"You're supposed to ignore the threat"

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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
Shooting someone should be a choice of last resort

i.e., if you don’t, either you or someone else will be dead

In reality, people are pretty poor at making this judgment


I agree.

And despite what all of the standard screechers are implying to my defense of this guy, he should definitely have not shot the parents and probably shouldn't have shot the son. However, we're merely illustrating here where this guy was coming from and defending his mindset rather than jumping on the BAD COP GUN NUT SHOOTS POOR INNOCENT DISABLED VICTIM bandwagon

It's just obvious that those who think this cop is automatically the devil either have never been a father or never been a father to small children in a very, long time.


Who "automatically" thinks that?

We all read the facts and came to the same conclusion, lethal force was not warranted.

So yes, cop is the devil.

99% of gun turds are assholes who can't wait to use their guns in real life situations.

It's a shortcut for every life problem.


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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
Shooting someone should be a choice of last resort

i.e., if you don’t, either you or someone else will be dead

In reality, people are pretty poor at making this judgment


I agree.

And despite what all of the standard screechers are implying to my defense of this guy, he should definitely have not shot the parents and probably shouldn't have shot the son. However, we're merely illustrating here where this guy was coming from and defending his mindset rather than jumping on the BAD COP GUN NUT SHOOTS POOR INNOCENT DISABLED VICTIM bandwagon

It's just obvious that those who think this cop is automatically the devil either have never been a father or never been a father to small children in a very, long time.
Costco-shooter Boy has fcvked his family. He defended nothing. he and his family are fcvked because of that gun he decided to carry. Like the Florida convenience store parking lot shooter. Fcvked. He played himself. The NRA is stoked though. More shootings are good for business. The gun makers profit in this environment.


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Undereacting when carrying is what is taught , and yes there are lots of dummies carrying too .

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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
Shooting someone should be a choice of last resort

i.e., if you don’t, either you or someone else will be dead

In reality, people are pretty poor at making this judgment


I agree.

And despite what all of the standard screechers are implying to my defense of this guy, he should definitely have not shot the parents and probably shouldn't have shot the son. However, we're merely illustrating here where this guy was coming from and defending his mindset rather than jumping on the BAD COP GUN NUT SHOOTS POOR INNOCENT DISABLED VICTIM bandwagon

It's just obvious that those who think this cop is automatically the devil either have never been a father or never been a father to small children in a very, long time.

This is one of your most dishonest screeches yet.

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Originally Posted by manbearpig
Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
Shooting someone should be a choice of last resort

i.e., if you don’t, either you or someone else will be dead

In reality, people are pretty poor at making this judgment


I agree.

And despite what all of the standard screechers are implying to my defense of this guy, he should definitely have not shot the parents and probably shouldn't have shot the son. However, we're merely illustrating here where this guy was coming from and defending his mindset rather than jumping on the BAD COP GUN NUT SHOOTS POOR INNOCENT DISABLED VICTIM bandwagon

It's just obvious that those who think this cop is automatically the devil either have never been a father or never been a father to small children in a very, long time.

This is one of your most dishonest screeches yet.

The great thing about your repeated "dishonest" call-outs is that it lets me know that I'm right and that I've struck a nerve


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Originally Posted by manbearpig
Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
Shooting someone should be a choice of last resort

i.e., if you don’t, either you or someone else will be dead

In reality, people are pretty poor at making this judgment


I agree.

And despite what all of the standard screechers are implying to my defense of this guy, he should definitely have not shot the parents and probably shouldn't have shot the son. However, we're merely illustrating here where this guy was coming from and defending his mindset rather than jumping on the BAD COP GUN NUT SHOOTS POOR INNOCENT DISABLED VICTIM bandwagon

It's just obvious that those who think this cop is automatically the devil either have never been a father or never been a father to small children in a very, long time.

This is one of your most dishonest screeches yet.

All the Cool People know that more funding is needed to properly study this problem.


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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by manbearpig
Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
Shooting someone should be a choice of last resort

i.e., if you don’t, either you or someone else will be dead

In reality, people are pretty poor at making this judgment


I agree.

And despite what all of the standard screechers are implying to my defense of this guy, he should definitely have not shot the parents and probably shouldn't have shot the son. However, we're merely illustrating here where this guy was coming from and defending his mindset rather than jumping on the BAD COP GUN NUT SHOOTS POOR INNOCENT DISABLED VICTIM bandwagon

It's just obvious that those who think this cop is automatically the devil either have never been a father or never been a father to small children in a very, long time.

This is one of your most dishonest screeches yet.

The great thing about your repeated "dishonest" call-outs is that it lets me know that I'm right and that I've struck a nerve

Not really.

You’re argument is completely dishonest. It is what it is.

No nerves struck, although you seem hot and bothered today.

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Does he wake up in the morning pondering whether or not he’ll continue to be an unreasonable troll in the internet all day?


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Originally Posted by manbearpig
Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by manbearpig
Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
Shooting someone should be a choice of last resort

i.e., if you don’t, either you or someone else will be dead

In reality, people are pretty poor at making this judgment


I agree.

And despite what all of the standard screechers are implying to my defense of this guy, he should definitely have not shot the parents and probably shouldn't have shot the son. However, we're merely illustrating here where this guy was coming from and defending his mindset rather than jumping on the BAD COP GUN NUT SHOOTS POOR INNOCENT DISABLED VICTIM bandwagon

It's just obvious that those who think this cop is automatically the devil either have never been a father or never been a father to small children in a very, long time.

This is one of your most dishonest screeches yet.

The great thing about your repeated "dishonest" call-outs is that it lets me know that I'm right and that I've struck a nerve

Not really.

You’re argument is completely dishonest. It is what it is.

No nerves struck, although you seem hot and bothered today.

Hot and bothered yes. I'm in a bad mood

There's nothing dishonest about that argument. Please point out what you think is dishonest


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The fact you’re playing the victim card on the cop roflmao roflmao

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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Hot and bothered yes. I'm in a bad mood


That's some feminine shit. Maybe step away from the keyboard until you get your emotions back under control?

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Originally Posted by manbearpig
The fact you’re playing the victim card on the cop roflmao roflmao

The only fact here is that you're completely making shit up in your head

Anyone getting physically attacked is by definition a victim

Shit, we're dealing with retard strength here


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Originally Posted by bird.
Originally Posted by ifallalot
Hot and bothered yes. I'm in a bad mood


That's some feminine shit. Maybe step away from the keyboard until you get your emotions back under control?

Yeah, its my period

I'm going to be a woman and let you all deal with it rather than get myself under control

I'll treat myself with a quart of ice cream and The Notebook


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Originally Posted by ifallalot
I'll treat myself with a quart of ice cream and The Notebook


Much better plan. Cry it out bawling

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The faux libertarian grasping at straws to defend an armed agent of the state? The worst case of cognitive dissonance ever!

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lol!

Given the forum's fascination with logical fallacies, you would think there would be some consideration of the fact that this thread, in pretty much it's entirety, is exemplary of the Hasty Generalization fallacy. Frankly, this entire forum is mostly an example of such. It's the logical fallacy that this place runs on. Which is no doubt why it's ignored.

I'm going to wait for the video. I have a hard time believing the cop could not have simply removed himself from the situation before fvcking up his life, the "gentle giants" life, the parents life, and probably permanently deafening his baby by discharging a firearm next to the kid's head. He's lucky dozens of people weren't injured/killed in a stampede. If he was truly unable to execute a retreat with his baby, if he was being pursued by the "Gentle Giant" to the point of being cornered and threatened with violence by said "Gant" while cradling a baby in his arms? Then maybe. I have my doubts about the scenario, but bring on the video.

I hate Costco. I hate inland LA even more. On a weekend, that's not a fit environment for mentally healthy full grown people. Much less mentally disabled people/babies.

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Originally Posted by mundus
The faux libertarian grasping at straws to defend an armed agent of the state? The worst case of cognitive dissonance ever!

"Off duty"

Derp


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just want to point out corona is riverside county. LA cop must live there shrug

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Originally Posted by rts265
just want to point out corona is riverside county. LA cop must live there shrug
On vacation. Staying in an Airbnb, which he trashed.


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Originally Posted by ifallalot
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He “feared for his life” rolleyes

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The officer opened fire after Kenneth French, 32, of Riverside, assaulted him without provocation as the officer held his young child, Corona police said Saturday.


You're such a dishonest fooker.

This shooting was absolutely justified. Sure, it probably would have been better to put the kid down on the ground and just beat the shit out of the "gentle giant" (who is attacking people unprovoked) but that would have been viewed as wrong too.

I guess if you're a cop you're not allowed to protect your family. In fact, if someone with mental problems is attacking you and your kids you're just supposed to take it because "it's not their fault"

Here are some articles for all the people creating narratives in their heads

https://www.seattlepi.com/news/crim...officer-s-actions-in-Costco-14002118.php

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/costco...ut-lapd-investigation-latest-2019-06-16/

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-costco-shooting-corona-explainer-20190616-story.html




So the police said that a fellow cop who shot an unarmed mentally handicapped man in a grocery store along with his parents was justified and you take their word for it as if the police have never looked out for one of their own. There really is nothing about this that seems fishy? Does it pass the erBB smell test?


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just want to point out corona is riverside county. LA cop must live there shrug
On vacation. Staying in an Airbnb, which he trashed.

D+

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Originally Posted by CharmingSophisticate
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The baby was uninjured btw

If you really think this situation warrants use of deadly force you really shouldn’t be armed

If you think defending your children with deadly force is not an option then- aside from not being a Man, you should not be allowed to have children.


So if you are holding a baby, you should be able to shoot dead any retard who gets close to you?

This is your 2A defense?

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Originally Posted by BillyOcean
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Originally Posted by BillyOcean

The baby was uninjured btw

If you really think this situation warrants use of deadly force you really shouldn’t be armed

If you think defending your children with deadly force is not an option then- aside from not being a Man, you should not be allowed to have children.


So if you are holding a baby, you should be able to shoot dead any retard who gets close to you?

This is your 2A defense?



it's doubly strange because he himself is a retard....

you'd expect him to be more circumspect.


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He “feared for his life” rolleyes

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The officer opened fire after Kenneth French, 32, of Riverside, assaulted him without provocation as the officer held his young child, Corona police said Saturday.


You're such a dishonest fooker.

This shooting was absolutely justified. Sure, it probably would have been better to put the kid down on the ground and just beat the shit out of the "gentle giant" (who is attacking people unprovoked) but that would have been viewed as wrong too.

I guess if you're a cop you're not allowed to protect your family. In fact, if someone with mental problems is attacking you and your kids you're just supposed to take it because "it's not their fault"

Here are some articles for all the people creating narratives in their heads

https://www.seattlepi.com/news/crim...officer-s-actions-in-Costco-14002118.php

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/costco...ut-lapd-investigation-latest-2019-06-16/

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-costco-shooting-corona-explainer-20190616-story.html




So the police said that a fellow cop who shot an unarmed mentally handicapped man in a grocery store along with his parents was justified and you take their word for it as if the police have never looked out for one of their own. There really is nothing about this that seems fishy? Does it pass the erBB smell test?

No doubt the Cop should've interviewed his assailant prior to deciding on using deadly force- possibly even a phone call to HQ to discuss the situation.

That would've been the reasonable thing to do anyway.


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The baby was uninjured btw

If you really think this situation warrants use of deadly force you really shouldn’t be armed

If you think defending your children with deadly force is not an option then- aside from not being a Man, you should not be allowed to have children.


So if you are holding a baby, you should be able to shoot dead any retard who gets close to you?

This is your 2A defense?

No.

I do tend to shoot Straw Men on sight though.

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Originally Posted by ifallalot
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Shooting someone should be a choice of last resort

i.e., if you don’t, either you or someone else will be dead

In reality, people are pretty poor at making this judgment


I agree.

And despite what all of the standard screechers are implying to my defense of this guy, he should definitely have not shot the parents and probably shouldn't have shot the son. However, we're merely illustrating here where this guy was coming from and defending his mindset rather than jumping on the BAD COP GUN NUT SHOOTS POOR INNOCENT DISABLED VICTIM bandwagon

It's just obvious that those who think this cop is automatically the devil either have never been a father or never been a father to small children in a very, long time.


Ok, I get why the baby daddy would’ve had an initial hostile reaction

But there is a thing called proportionality

If you are armed, it’s incumbent upon you to always err on the side of not shooting

I would think honorable 2A ninjas would have this idea ingrained

But everyone wants to be a cowboy

It’s more about feeling like a tough guy than responsibly defending oneself

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The baby was uninjured btw

If you really think this situation warrants use of deadly force you really shouldn’t be armed

If you think defending your children with deadly force is not an option then- aside from not being a Man, you should not be allowed to have children.

"You're supposed to ignore the threat"

Fools


Again, you don’t ignore

You react proportionately and responsibly

The responses of the gun idiots on here is why people like me don’t trust you with guns

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Originally Posted by BillyOcean
Shooting someone should be a choice of last resort

i.e., if you don’t, either you or someone else will be dead

In reality, people are pretty poor at making this judgment


I agree.

And despite what all of the standard screechers are implying to my defense of this guy, he should definitely have not shot the parents and probably shouldn't have shot the son. However, we're merely illustrating here where this guy was coming from and defending his mindset rather than jumping on the BAD COP GUN NUT SHOOTS POOR INNOCENT DISABLED VICTIM bandwagon

It's just obvious that those who think this cop is automatically the devil either have never been a father or never been a father to small children in a very, long time.
Costco-shooter Boy has fcvked his family. He defended nothing. he and his family are fcvked because of that gun he decided to carry. Like the Florida convenience store parking lot shooter. Fcvked. He played himself. The NRA is stoked though. More shootings are good for business. The gun makers profit in this environment.


Yes

Was it cool for the little baby to watch his dad shoot three people at close range

Will it be cool when his dad goes to prison ?

All because he was a macho hot head who wouldn’t walk away from an actual retard

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Originally Posted by frvcvs
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He “feared for his life” rolleyes

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The officer opened fire after Kenneth French, 32, of Riverside, assaulted him without provocation as the officer held his young child, Corona police said Saturday.


You're such a dishonest fooker.

This shooting was absolutely justified. Sure, it probably would have been better to put the kid down on the ground and just beat the shit out of the "gentle giant" (who is attacking people unprovoked) but that would have been viewed as wrong too.

I guess if you're a cop you're not allowed to protect your family. In fact, if someone with mental problems is attacking you and your kids you're just supposed to take it because "it's not their fault"

Here are some articles for all the people creating narratives in their heads

https://www.seattlepi.com/news/crim...officer-s-actions-in-Costco-14002118.php

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/costco...ut-lapd-investigation-latest-2019-06-16/

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-costco-shooting-corona-explainer-20190616-story.html




So the police said that a fellow cop who shot an unarmed mentally handicapped man in a grocery store along with his parents was justified and you take their word for it as if the police have never looked out for one of their own. There really is nothing about this that seems fishy? Does it pass the erBB smell test?

Your anti-police mindset is causing you to think in conspiracy theories, and, like all good conspiracy theories, it works because it is plausible.


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Originally Posted by BillyOcean
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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
Shooting someone should be a choice of last resort

i.e., if you don’t, either you or someone else will be dead

In reality, people are pretty poor at making this judgment


I agree.

And despite what all of the standard screechers are implying to my defense of this guy, he should definitely have not shot the parents and probably shouldn't have shot the son. However, we're merely illustrating here where this guy was coming from and defending his mindset rather than jumping on the BAD COP GUN NUT SHOOTS POOR INNOCENT DISABLED VICTIM bandwagon

It's just obvious that those who think this cop is automatically the devil either have never been a father or never been a father to small children in a very, long time.
Costco-shooter Boy has fcvked his family. He defended nothing. he and his family are fcvked because of that gun he decided to carry. Like the Florida convenience store parking lot shooter. Fcvked. He played himself. The NRA is stoked though. More shootings are good for business. The gun makers profit in this environment.


Yes

Was it cool for the little baby to watch his dad shoot three people at close range

Will it be cool when his dad goes to prison ?

All because he was a macho hot head who wouldn’t walk away from an actual retard

So we're not allowed to defend ourselves or our families anymore?


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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Now there was no reason to shoot the other people, but to think that a father holding his child should just "walk away" from an attack by a larger man is simply ludicrous


Were you there? You seem so sure of this "attack". Is it possible that they bumped into each other and because the victim was mentally handicapped and non-verbal had trouble communicating with the off-duty cop who may have reacted in an overzealous and overly defensive manner resorting to violence in the midst of a miscommunication with someone who is documented as having problems communicating?


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I'm sure Costco has video of this attack. The question is, will the Corona police dept release it.


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So we're not allowed to defend ourselves or our families anymore?


I don't believe anyone has said this in the thread

reductio ad absurdum


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Aren’t a lot of cops macho hotheads?

Why else would you become a cop?

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I'm gonna go on record and say that I've never feared for my life at Costco. Not even the Alhambra Costco where there are stampedes for free samples every time the microwave buzzer goes off. But now that a mentally challenged man and his parents have been shot at Costco that may change.


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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
Originally Posted by 1whoknows
Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
Shooting someone should be a choice of last resort

i.e., if you don’t, either you or someone else will be dead

In reality, people are pretty poor at making this judgment


I agree.

And despite what all of the standard screechers are implying to my defense of this guy, he should definitely have not shot the parents and probably shouldn't have shot the son. However, we're merely illustrating here where this guy was coming from and defending his mindset rather than jumping on the BAD COP GUN NUT SHOOTS POOR INNOCENT DISABLED VICTIM bandwagon

It's just obvious that those who think this cop is automatically the devil either have never been a father or never been a father to small children in a very, long time.
Costco-shooter Boy has fcvked his family. He defended nothing. he and his family are fcvked because of that gun he decided to carry. Like the Florida convenience store parking lot shooter. Fcvked. He played himself. The NRA is stoked though. More shootings are good for business. The gun makers profit in this environment.


Yes

Was it cool for the little baby to watch his dad shoot three people at close range

Will it be cool when his dad goes to prison ?

All because he was a macho hot head who wouldn’t walk away from an actual retard

So we're not allowed to defend ourselves or our families anymore?


Not with deadly force against unarmed people in a public place, no

This is pretty basic

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Originally Posted by frvcvs
I'm gonna go on record and say that I've never feared for my life at Costco. Not even the Alhambra Costco where there are stampedes for free samples every time the microwave buzzer goes off. But now that a mentally challenged man and his parents have been shot at Costco that may change.

That's a sad life to cower in fear because of an outlier situation


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I’ll give you a counterexample

If the cop was in Costco with his baby and there was someone there WITH A GUN trying to shoot him or other people, he would have been justified shooting IF he had a clear shot that didn’t risk others’ lives more than not taking the shot

As a further example, the retard’s dad would’ve been justified shooting the cop after the cop shot his son but before he shot the mom, but only if he could get in a position where the baby wouldn’t have been shot

The cop was the bad guy here end of story

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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by frvcvs
I'm gonna go on record and say that I've never feared for my life at Costco. Not even the Alhambra Costco where there are stampedes for free samples every time the microwave buzzer goes off. But now that a mentally challenged man and his parents have been shot at Costco that may change.

That's a sad life to cower in fear because of an outlier situation


You should talk to Squidley, I was being sarcastic.


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Originally Posted by BillyOcean
I’ll give you a counterexample

If the cop was in Costco with his baby and there was someone there WITH A GUN trying to shoot him or other people, he would have been justified shooting IF he had a clear shot that didn’t risk others’ lives more than not taking the shot

As a further example, the retard’s dad would’ve been justified shooting the cop after the cop shot his son but before he shot the mom, but only if he could get in a position where the baby wouldn’t have been shot

The cop was the bad guy here end of story



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Originally Posted by ifallalot
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I'm gonna go on record and say that I've never feared for my life at Costco. Not even the Alhambra Costco where there are stampedes for free samples every time the microwave buzzer goes off. But now that a mentally challenged man and his parents have been shot at Costco that may change.

That's a sad life to cower in fear because of an outlier situation


It’s ok to look like a pussy sometimes

Life isn’t a movie

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The baby was uninjured btw

If you really think this situation warrants use of deadly force you really shouldn’t be armed

If you think defending your children with deadly force is not an option then- aside from not being a Man, you should not be allowed to have children.

"You're supposed to ignore the threat"

Fools


You react proportionately and responsibly


That's a great way to get your children killed and will make a very sweet epitaph. Aside from that, it's pure idiocy.


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Originally Posted by ifallalot
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The baby was uninjured btw

If you really think this situation warrants use of deadly force you really shouldn’t be armed

If you think defending your children with deadly force is not an option then- aside from not being a Man, you should not be allowed to have children.

"You're supposed to ignore evade the threat"

Fools

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A threat response is a potent trigger for motivated reasoning.

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Originally Posted by CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted by BillyOcean

The baby was uninjured btw

If you really think this situation warrants use of deadly force you really shouldn’t be armed

If you think defending your children with deadly force is not an option then- aside from not being a Man, you should not be allowed to have children.

"You're supposed to ignore the threat"

Fools


You react proportionately and responsibly


That's a great way to get your children killed and will make a very sweet epitaph. Aside from that, it's pure idiocy.


This isn’t Nam, Walter

We’re talking about a guy who shot a family in a grocery store

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Originally Posted by CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by CharmingSophisticate
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The baby was uninjured btw

If you really think this situation warrants use of deadly force you really shouldn’t be armed

If you think defending your children with deadly force is not an option then- aside from not being a Man, you should not be allowed to have children.

"You're supposed to ignore the threat"

Fools


You react proportionately and responsibly


That's a great way to get your children killed and will make a very sweet epitaph. Aside from that, it's pure idiocy.



Here is the deal: the guy made a choice.

It was the wrong one.

I love that you are defending a tactic that failed to efficiently defuse the threat.


A threat response is a potent trigger for motivated reasoning.

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Should've had more GGWG at Costco.


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I'll wait for the video to give any real opinion.

few things though,
IMO, if he wasn't a cop he probably would have tried to AVOID confrontation like they teach you in the CWP class. BUT because he was a cop he already has the "I can do whatever I want" thing going and that thought never entered his brain.

I'm not sure what the threat was ( I wasn't there) but if I had a baby in my hands unless the threat was pointing a gun at me it isn't a threat worth dealing with then and there with a baby in my hands. He's an idiot if nothing else.

and I want to see how he explains having to shoot all 3. That's where he kind of loses me even not knowing the details.

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Even my 11 yr old son who is a blue belt in karate knows to walk away whenever possible

If you carry a gun and that is not your general approach you are actually a menace 2 society

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Originally Posted by BillyOcean
Even my 11 yr old son who is a blue belt in karate knows to walk away whenever possible

If you carry a gun and that is not your general approach you are actually a menace 2 society


That's because they teach that in karate. It's one of the first things you learn.
My sensei always says the hardest fights to walk away from are the ones you know you can win.

they teach that in the CWP classes too. BUT this guy was a cop and almost every cop I know ( I have 3 family members that are cops) has a unbeatable/above the law complex.

My step-sister is about 110 lbs. Never had any martial arts training etc. She goes to the police academy and when she graduates she 100% believes she can take me in a real fight.

This is the crap thinking they teach you in the academy.....2 weeks of BJJ and all of a sudden she really thinks she can take a grown man down and keep them restrained. Never been in a real fight, never hit with a real punch, never tasted blood and had to kept fighting etc....
it's all fantasy. When they get into a real confrontation they just shoot them because they have no biz being there anyway.

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Originally Posted by BillyOcean
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He “feared for his life” rolleyes


Reportedly he was holding his baby in his arms. Take victims as they come, not as an average.
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So if you’re holding a baby you get to shoot 3 unarmed people?


Yes, as long as the baby isn't shoplifting.

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and I want to see how he explains having to shoot all 3. That's where he kind of loses me even not knowing the details.



In for a penny in for a pound?


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and I want to see how he explains having to shoot all 3. That's where he kind of loses me even not knowing the details.



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It’s like the Twilight Zone where there are millions of idiots who fantasize themselves to be good guys with guns


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I would shoot that guy in the leg if he stopped moving long enough.
He appears to be trying to induce a "penis envy" response and in my view, unless you're Long Dong Silver, John Holmes (RIP) or one of the modern Woodsmen, it's just annoying.


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It’s like the Twilight Zone where there are millions of idiots who fantasize themselves to be good guys with guns


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I would shoot that guy in the leg if he stopped moving long enough.
He appears to be trying to induce a "penis envy" response and in my view, unless you're Long Dong Silver, John Holmes (RIP) or one of the modern Woodsmen, it's just annoying.


I love a good "telling on yourself" freudian slip erBB post.

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Originally Posted by CharmingSophisticate
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It’s like the Twilight Zone where there are millions of idiots who fantasize themselves to be good guys with guns


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I would shoot that guy in the leg if he stopped moving long enough.
He appears to be trying to induce a "penis envy" response and in my view, unless you're Long Dong Silver, John Holmes (RIP) or one of the modern Woodsmen, it's just annoying.


I love a good "telling on yourself" freudian slip erBB post.

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I'm average and proud, not Gay Proud though, can't really see a good turnout at the Average Pride Parade.


This slip was that seeing a black guy with his shirt off immediately makes your mind go to penises.

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Report just came in that three people were just shot (carried away in ambulances) at the Chula Vista Costco parking lot. Wonder if the staff are going to be awarded hazardous duty pay.

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Maybe the trend will move away from school shootings to Costco shootings?

None too soon!


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Maybe the trend will move away from school shootings to Costco shootings?

None too soon!


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A threat response is a potent trigger for motivated reasoning.

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Originally Posted by jkb
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Maybe the trend will move away from school shootings to Costco shootings?

None too soon!


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Will they stop a bullet?

A layer of lead between the foam would stop both a bullet (I think) and Fukushima radiation.

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So these two were standing in a line to get a food sample and started arguing.

Two things.

1) Who the fvck waits in line for a sample?

2) A cop arguing with a mentally ill person and not realising he's mentally ill, how does this happen.

Who argues with mentally ill, let alone a cop.

Don't they teach that shit in police academy? How about conflict resolution? De-ascalating?

No, getting in an argument about a food sample is totally worth killing over becuz PROTEC FAMELE


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Originally Posted by CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted by afoaf
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
It’s like the Twilight Zone where there are millions of idiots who fantasize themselves to be good guys with guns


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I would shoot that guy in the leg if he stopped moving long enough.
He appears to be trying to induce a "penis envy" response and in my view, unless you're Long Dong Silver, John Holmes (RIP) or one of the modern Woodsmen, it's just annoying.



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That shit was extremely weird

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How do you get in an argument with somebody who is "non-verbal?"

One of them took the last 2 Totino's pizza roll samples confused2


You forgot it was STOLEN?!
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A guy with a gun kills shoppers at COSTCO. Obviously, he was not pushing a shopping cart and was cart rammed.


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Originally Posted by frvcvs
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I'm gonna go on record and say that I've never feared for my life at Costco. Not even the Alhambra Costco where there are stampedes for free samples every time the microwave buzzer goes off. But now that a mentally challenged man and his parents have been shot at Costco that may change.

That's a sad life to cower in fear because of an outlier situation


You should talk to Squidley, I was being sarcastic.

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So these two were standing in a line to get a food sample and started arguing.
.....
2) A cop arguing with a mentally ill person and not realising he's mentally ill, how does this happen.

Who argues with mentally ill.....


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Arguing with a non-verbal person? It's a miracle.

Idiot.
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Non verbal trying to grab the baby: "Ahhhhhhhhh."

Cop: "fook off!"

Non verbal: "Ahhhhh."

Cop pulls out gun an starts shooting.


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A guy with a gun kills shoppers at COSTCO. Obviously, he was not pushing a shopping cart and was cart rammed.


lol.

I once had a guy ram me, in the back, multiple times with his cart. I was surrounded and had no place to move to. I finally snapped. "Hit me with that cart one more time mother fvcker..."

Costco on a weekend is like the 7th level of hell. No go.

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I really hope the video comes out. The cops lawyer is claiming he was knocked unconscious, came to and started shooting, sounds really fishy.

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Originally Posted by mundus
I really hope the video comes out. The cops lawyer is claiming he was knocked unconscious, came to and started shooting, sounds really fishy.


sounds like lawyer manufactured positioning for manslaughter rather than 1st degree murder

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Originally Posted by mundus
I really hope the video comes out. The cops lawyer is claiming he was knocked unconscious, came to and started shooting, sounds really fishy.

Yes. We need to see the video

Especially since there is zero reason the parents were shot


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Originally Posted by ifallalot
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I really hope the video comes out. The cops lawyer is claiming he was knocked unconscious, came to and started shooting, sounds really fishy.

Yes. We need to see the video

Especially since there is zero reason the parents were shot


Earlier in the thread you declared the shooting as "absolutely justified", why bother with the video? Case closed.


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One thing I notice a lot having kids with special needs is that there is a huge effort to teach these people to learn to be flexible but many, many “typical” people are highly inflexible and prone to react emotionally

If you can’t be more flexible than a retard you have major issues

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Originally Posted by frvcvs
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I really hope the video comes out. The cops lawyer is claiming he was knocked unconscious, came to and started shooting, sounds really fishy.

Yes. We need to see the video

Especially since there is zero reason the parents were shot


Earlier in the thread you declared the shooting as "absolutely justified", why bother with the video? Case closed.

I wasn't talking about the shooting of the parents.


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One thing I notice a lot having kids with special needs is that there is a huge effort to teach these people to learn to be flexible but many, many “typical” people are highly inflexible and prone to react emotionally

If you can’t be more flexible than a retard you have major issues


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One thing I notice a lot having kids with special needs is that there is a huge effort to teach these people to learn to be flexible but many, many “typical” people are highly inflexible and prone to react emotionally

If you can’t be more flexible than a retard you have major issues


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It’s like many things are supposed to be done a certain way

There is a lot of assumed social understanding in every day interactions

You don’t notice it until you have to coach someone who doesn’t understand through it, then it all begins to seem very arbitrary

Yet people can get extremely offended instantly by failure to follow a particular assumed protocol, as if the other person is doing something malicious rather than simply failing to comprehend

It is better as a first instinct to assume others are not being malicious

I guarantee this type of assumption had something to do with this tragedy

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Police of all people should have extensive training and experience when it comes to dealing with the mentally disabled and challenged.

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Originally Posted by frvcvs
Police of all people should have extensive training and experience when it comes to dealing with the mentally disabled and challenged.


Yes

But there is an undercurrent of “why should we have to make special accommodations to coddle them”

I think this is a pretty sad way to look at other people

Human interaction is a 2 way street

I see a lot of handicapped people and they try so much harder than most people do to get along with others, which is really remarkable given their issues

If most typical people tried half as hard to understand others we would have far fewer problems

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Originally Posted by BillyOcean
Originally Posted by Autoprax
I want to see because I want to see how it happened.

Someone got scared and the autonomic systems took over.

That is the problem with guns, the scared person with the gun overreacts and the retards die.


My guess is the ASD guy saw the baby and wanted to touch it

LA cop probably reacted aggressively (understandable as an initial reaction), then ASD guy panicked then his parents panicked then cop guy panicked then he shot everyone

Someone who was not an idiot hothead wouldn’t have carried a gun in a grocery store and this wouldn’t have happened

A cool calm collected gun owner would’ve realized the guy was retarded and walked away

The problem with guns is most people who want to carry them are far from calm and calculating




Exactly. Billy understands.

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Anyone else think of Lenny in Mice and Men when they read this story confused2 Sad story all around, RIP young man beer


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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by frvcvs
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
One thing I notice a lot having kids with special needs is that there is a huge effort to teach these people to learn to be flexible but many, many “typical” people are highly inflexible and prone to react emotionally

If you can’t be more flexible than a retard you have major issues


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Originally Posted by BillyOcean
Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted by BillyOcean

The baby was uninjured btw

If you really think this situation warrants use of deadly force you really shouldn’t be armed

If you think defending your children with deadly force is not an option then- aside from not being a Man, you should not be allowed to have children.

"You're supposed to ignore the threat"

Fools


Again, you don’t ignore

You react proportionately and responsibly

The responses of the gun idiots on here is why people like me don’t trust you with guns


Again, exactly. Do we need anymore evidence why everyone shouldn't be carrying guns just to out for some groceries? Because a lot of people think they would be justified in using them in the most benign of cases.

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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by frvcvs
Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by frvcvs
He “feared for his life” rolleyes

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The officer opened fire after Kenneth French, 32, of Riverside, assaulted him without provocation as the officer held his young child, Corona police said Saturday.


You're such a dishonest fooker.

This shooting was absolutely justified. Sure, it probably would have been better to put the kid down on the ground and just beat the shit out of the "gentle giant" (who is attacking people unprovoked) but that would have been viewed as wrong too.

I guess if you're a cop you're not allowed to protect your family. In fact, if someone with mental problems is attacking you and your kids you're just supposed to take it because "it's not their fault"

Here are some articles for all the people creating narratives in their heads

https://www.seattlepi.com/news/crim...officer-s-actions-in-Costco-14002118.php

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/costco...ut-lapd-investigation-latest-2019-06-16/

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-costco-shooting-corona-explainer-20190616-story.html




So the police said that a fellow cop who shot an unarmed mentally handicapped man in a grocery store along with his parents was justified and you take their word for it as if the police have never looked out for one of their own. There really is nothing about this that seems fishy? Does it pass the erBB smell test?

Your anti-police mindset is causing you to think in conspiracy theories, and, like all good conspiracy theories, it works because it is plausible.


Watch the Rodney King video and tell me it is conspiracy.

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Originally Posted by trevorbc
Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by frvcvs
Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by frvcvs
He “feared for his life” rolleyes

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The officer opened fire after Kenneth French, 32, of Riverside, assaulted him without provocation as the officer held his young child, Corona police said Saturday.


You're such a dishonest fooker.

This shooting was absolutely justified. Sure, it probably would have been better to put the kid down on the ground and just beat the shit out of the "gentle giant" (who is attacking people unprovoked) but that would have been viewed as wrong too.

I guess if you're a cop you're not allowed to protect your family. In fact, if someone with mental problems is attacking you and your kids you're just supposed to take it because "it's not their fault"

Here are some articles for all the people creating narratives in their heads

https://www.seattlepi.com/news/crim...officer-s-actions-in-Costco-14002118.php

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/costco...ut-lapd-investigation-latest-2019-06-16/

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-costco-shooting-corona-explainer-20190616-story.html




So the police said that a fellow cop who shot an unarmed mentally handicapped man in a grocery store along with his parents was justified and you take their word for it as if the police have never looked out for one of their own. There really is nothing about this that seems fishy? Does it pass the erBB smell test?

Your anti-police mindset is causing you to think in conspiracy theories, and, like all good conspiracy theories, it works because it is plausible.


Watch the Rodney King video and tell me it is conspiracy.

Most of the cops doing the beating became supervisors, no wonder we have police problems in this country.

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Originally Posted by BillyOcean
It’s like many things are supposed to be done a certain way

There is a lot of assumed social understanding in every day interactions

You don’t notice it until you have to coach someone who doesn’t understand through it, then it all begins to seem very arbitrary

Yet people can get extremely offended instantly by failure to follow a particular assumed protocol, as if the other person is doing something malicious rather than simply failing to comprehend

It is better as a first instinct to assume others are not being malicious

I guarantee this type of assumption had something to do with this tragedy


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Originally Posted by heelnipstr
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
It’s like many things are supposed to be done a certain way

There is a lot of assumed social understanding in every day interactions

You don’t notice it until you have to coach someone who doesn’t understand through it, then it all begins to seem very arbitrary

Yet people can get extremely offended instantly by failure to follow a particular assumed protocol, as if the other person is doing something malicious rather than simply failing to comprehend

It is better as a first instinct to assume others are not being malicious

I guarantee this type of assumption had something to do with this tragedy


Black and white thinking
fundamentalist thinking
intolerance of people who are different
feelings of insecurity
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lack of empathy or disdain for the value of empathy




Gotcha PC nomenclature word salad is part of this too

There are autistic kids who have been set upon by campus SJWs

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lack of empathy or disdain for the value of empathy"

this is the psychological stew from which Russia generated its pro-Trump messaging.

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Originally Posted by BillyOcean
One thing I notice a lot having kids with special needs is that there is a huge effort to teach these people to learn to be flexible but many, many “typical” people are highly inflexible and prone to react emotionally

If you can’t be more flexible than a retard you have major issues


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I think a lot of people could use a bit of ABA.


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A woman was found dead today in the parking lot of a Costco in Bakersfield, California, was most likely attacked by dogs, police said. No guns involved but the dogs have been taken away to be euthanized

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How much you want to bet that this "knocked out" story was concocted by the Police Union.

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A guy with a gun kills shoppers at COSTCO. Obviously, he was not pushing a shopping cart and was cart rammed.


lol.

I once had a guy ram me, in the back, multiple times with his cart. I was surrounded and had no place to move to. I finally snapped. "Hit me with that cart one more time mother fvcker..."

Costco on a weekend is like the 7th level of hell. No go.

A man has got to know his limitations.


what kind of human being intentionally rams another one with their cart?!

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A guy with a gun kills shoppers at COSTCO. Obviously, he was not pushing a shopping cart and was cart rammed.


lol.

I once had a guy ram me, in the back, multiple times with his cart. I was surrounded and had no place to move to. I finally snapped. "Hit me with that cart one more time mother fvcker..."

Costco on a weekend is like the 7th level of hell. No go.

A man has got to know his limitations.


what kind of human being intentionally rams another one with their cart?!

that's farking bananananas

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Originally Posted by BillyOcean
It’s like many things are supposed to be done a certain way

There is a lot of assumed social understanding in every day interactions

You don’t notice it until you have to coach someone who doesn’t understand through it, then it all begins to seem very arbitrary

Yet people can get extremely offended instantly by failure to follow a particular assumed protocol, as if the other person is doing something malicious rather than simply failing to comprehend

It is better as a first instinct to assume others are not being malicious

I guarantee this type of assumption had something to do with this tragedy


Yes, automated systems run the show pretty much. Especially when stress is applied.


A threat response is a potent trigger for motivated reasoning.

"People who are right a lot listen a lot, and they change their mind a lot. . . . . They wake up and reanalyze things and change their mind. If you don't change your mind frequently, you're going to be wrong a lot."
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Seems like an exceptionally bad shoot to me.


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A threat response is a potent trigger for motivated reasoning.

"People who are right a lot listen a lot, and they change their mind a lot. . . . . They wake up and reanalyze things and change their mind. If you don't change your mind frequently, you're going to be wrong a lot."
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Originally Posted by squidley
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So these two were standing in a line to get a food sample and started arguing.
.....
2) A cop arguing with a mentally ill person and not realising he's mentally ill, how does this happen.

Who argues with mentally ill.....


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Arguing with a non-verbal person? It's a miracle.

Idiot.
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Corona police said on Friday that two men were in an argument ...


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Can't wait for the video!

Maybe the retard went crazy and the cop had to shoot him and his parents.

I doubt it but maybe.


A threat response is a potent trigger for motivated reasoning.

"People who are right a lot listen a lot, and they change their mind a lot. . . . . They wake up and reanalyze things and change their mind. If you don't change your mind frequently, you're going to be wrong a lot."
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The cop(off-duty)Probably was arguing with the parents and the son stepped in
To take up for them.
How it could escalate to having to use deadly force is beyond me. Scared for his
baby, ok then get the heck away. Protect the child. Get it out of harms way.
Another idiot with a gun. I didn’t know the test to carry a gun was to prove you are idiot worthy.


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Originally Posted by heelnipstr
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
It’s like many things are supposed to be done a certain way

There is a lot of assumed social understanding in every day interactions

You don’t notice it until you have to coach someone who doesn’t understand through it, then it all begins to seem very arbitrary

Yet people can get extremely offended instantly by failure to follow a particular assumed protocol, as if the other person is doing something malicious rather than simply failing to comprehend

It is better as a first instinct to assume others are not being malicious

I guarantee this type of assumption had something to do with this tragedy


Black and white thinking
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feelings of insecurity
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lack of empathy or disdain for the value of empathy



roflmao

You have the gall to call out black & white thinking while nearly everyone here is demonizing the cop automatically simply because he was a cop who defending himself and the victim is special needs

The rest of your whining is classic armchair psychology retardation.


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I don't think anyone here attacking the cop's actions would have a problem changing their mind if they saw the video and the shooting was legit.

It's just hard to imagine in this context that the shooting could be legit.



A threat response is a potent trigger for motivated reasoning.

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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by heelnipstr
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
It’s like many things are supposed to be done a certain way

There is a lot of assumed social understanding in every day interactions

You don’t notice it until you have to coach someone who doesn’t understand through it, then it all begins to seem very arbitrary

Yet people can get extremely offended instantly by failure to follow a particular assumed protocol, as if the other person is doing something malicious rather than simply failing to comprehend

It is better as a first instinct to assume others are not being malicious

I guarantee this type of assumption had something to do with this tragedy


Black and white thinking
fundamentalist thinking
intolerance of people who are different
feelings of insecurity
arrogant disposition
lack of empathy or disdain for the value of empathy



roflmao

You have the gall to call out black & white thinking while nearly everyone here is demonizing the cop automatically simply because he was a cop who defending himself and the victim is special needs

The rest of your whining is classic armchair psychology retardation.


Heelnistr described you perfectly.

And everybody is "automatically" demonizing the cop because he shot three unarmed people in a busy store.

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Here’s what happened, probably - 32 year old man lives with his parents. Doesn’t work. Mental issues. Is strolling around Costco with his mom and dad. Sees a person putting out little samples of chicken nuggets or tiny pizza slices or little pieces of cheese or something. Wanting to please, to “give back” in some way to his parents he grabs, or tries to grab one, then two, then three of the samples. Police guy, inland empire commuter, uptight, naggy wife, little kids, was pissed when he sees this darker skinned, pudgy oaf grabbing multiple samples. He says something, he nudged the big guy, he grabs the oaf’s hand. He gets shoved in return. The parents run over and try to intervene. Police guy has blown a fuse, makes threatening gestures toward the father. The big oaf now feels he must defend his parents and stands tall, like a bear. Mr. Police really feels threatened, and somehow, only in America, shoots this unfortunate soul. The father is next, I guess, then the mom somehow, trying to shield her husband?
The policeman might as well be a mass murderer, a school shooter - same outcome.


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Originally Posted by 1whoknows
Here’s what happened, probably - 32 year old man lives with his parents. Doesn’t work. Mental issues. Is strolling around Costco with his mom and dad. Sees a person putting out little samples of chicken nuggets or tiny pizza slices or little pieces of cheese or something. Wanting to please, to “give back” in some way to his parents he grabs, or tries to grab one, then two, then three of the samples. Police guy, inland empire commuter, uptight, naggy wife, little kids, was pissed when he sees this darker skinned, pudgy oaf grabbing multiple samples. He says something, he nudged the big guy, he grabs the oaf’s hand. He gets shoved in return. The parents run over and try to intervene. Police guy has blown a fuse, makes threatening gestures toward the father. The big oaf now feels he must defend his parents and stands tall, like a bear. Mr. Police really feels threatened, and somehow, only in America, shoots this unfortunate soul. The father is next, I guess, then the mom somehow, trying to shield her husband?
The policeman might as well be a mass murderer, a school shooter - same outcome.


You really need to do something about the voices in your head.


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Originally Posted by i_shapes
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Here’s what happened, probably - 32 year old man lives with his parents. Doesn’t work. Mental issues. Is strolling around Costco with his mom and dad. Sees a person putting out little samples of chicken nuggets or tiny pizza slices or little pieces of cheese or something. Wanting to please, to “give back” in some way to his parents he grabs, or tries to grab one, then two, then three of the samples. Police guy, inland empire commuter, uptight, naggy wife, little kids, was pissed when he sees this darker skinned, pudgy oaf grabbing multiple samples. He says something, he nudged the big guy, he grabs the oaf’s hand. He gets shoved in return. The parents run over and try to intervene. Police guy has blown a fuse, makes threatening gestures toward the father. The big oaf now feels he must defend his parents and stands tall, like a bear. Mr. Police really feels threatened, and somehow, only in America, shoots this unfortunate soul. The father is next, I guess, then the mom somehow, trying to shield her husband?
The policeman might as well be a mass murderer, a school shooter - same outcome.


You really need to do something about the voices in your head.


Like what, get a gun, like your voices told you to?


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Originally Posted by FecalFace
Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by heelnipstr
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
It’s like many things are supposed to be done a certain way

There is a lot of assumed social understanding in every day interactions

You don’t notice it until you have to coach someone who doesn’t understand through it, then it all begins to seem very arbitrary

Yet people can get extremely offended instantly by failure to follow a particular assumed protocol, as if the other person is doing something malicious rather than simply failing to comprehend

It is better as a first instinct to assume others are not being malicious

I guarantee this type of assumption had something to do with this tragedy


Black and white thinking
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lack of empathy or disdain for the value of empathy



roflmao

You have the gall to call out black & white thinking while nearly everyone here is demonizing the cop automatically simply because he was a cop who defending himself and the victim is special needs

The rest of your whining is classic armchair psychology retardation.


Heelnistr described you perfectly.

And everybody is "automatically" demonizing the cop because he shot three unarmed people in a busy store.

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We should all be able to agree that anyone (police or civilian) that shoots an unarmed person(s) should have to bare the burden of proving the threat was reasonable and the shooting was justifiable. Unfortunately we don't.


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Dude, fvck you.

He's sketched out an elaborate account of something he has no idea about. He's writing fiction. Which is more than a little crazy2


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Originally Posted by i_shapes
Dude, fvck you.

He's sketched out an elaborate account of something he has no idea about. He's writing fiction. Which is more than a little crazy2



You seem triggered.


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I don't think he's pretending it's real.

Many gun owners have voices in their heads that tell them they need guns becuz reasons.


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Originally Posted by i_shapes
Dude, fvck you.

He's sketched out an elaborate account of something he has no idea about. He's writing fiction. Which is more than a little crazy2
What do you imagine happened? Of course it’s pure conjecture, a la Perry Mason. could it have happened as I have speculated? Yes.


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I think I could thwart a retarded kid at Costco without killing him and shooting his parents.

And that is with a bad foot and negative attitude.


A threat response is a potent trigger for motivated reasoning.

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Originally Posted by Autoprax
I think I could thwart a retarded kid at Costco without killing him and shooting his parents.

And that is with a bad foot and negative attitude.


Yes but you're not trained in armed combat.


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Originally Posted by FecalFace
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I think I could thwart a retarded kid at Costco without killing him and shooting his parents.

And that is with a bad foot and negative attitude.


Yes but you're not trained in armed combat.


Actually, I am.

I got my NRA safety certificicawt when I was 14.


A threat response is a potent trigger for motivated reasoning.

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After our session a (very limited verbally) student threw an eraser and it hit me in the back today. For some reason I did not feel any desire to shoot him or anyone else around.
What am I missing?


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Originally Posted by Autoprax
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I think I could thwart a retarded kid at Costco without killing him and shooting his parents.

And that is with a bad foot and negative attitude.


Yes but you're not trained in armed combat.


Actually, I am.

I got my NRA safety certificicawt when I was 14.


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Originally Posted by heelnipstr
After our session a (very limited verbally) student threw an eraser and it hit me in the back today. For some reason I did not feel any desire to shoot him or anyone else around.
What am I missing?


Yeah but if he tried taking a food sample from you I bet you'd shoot him.

These guys dream about scenarios like this where they can be the heros and protect their family with gunz.

Even a slight sign of conflict is a justification to use it.

Every person who carries a gun in public is dangerous, cops included.




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Can't wait for the video!


should just lock the thread until the video is released...


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what this entire BS heated conversation is about is - the misinformation from the Corona PD. They fking lied to the public. Period.

Wait for the video

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The family’s lawyer says the ASD man pushed the cop in line to get a food sample, then the dad intervened and the cop started shooting. He says this is what the cosco video will show and there are multiple witnesses

Another good guy with a gun!

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Can't wait for the video!


should just lock the thread until the video is released...


But then what would we do?


A threat response is a potent trigger for motivated reasoning.

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Originally Posted by BillyOcean
The family’s lawyer says the ASD man pushed the cop in line to get a food sample, then the dad intervened and the cop started shooting. He says this is what the cosco video will show and there are multiple witnesses

Another good guy with a gun!


I'm like that [the retard] around food samples. But I do have a severe learning disability.


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Originally Posted by BillyOcean
The family’s lawyer says the ASD man pushed the cop in line to get a food sample, then the dad intervened and the cop started shooting. He says this is what the cosco video will show and there are multiple witnesses

Called it
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You forgot it was STOLEN?!
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Originally Posted by grapedrink
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
The family’s lawyer says the ASD man pushed the cop in line to get a food sample, then the dad intervened and the cop started shooting. He says this is what the cosco video will show and there are multiple witnesses

Called it
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Taking the ASD Man's family lawyers statement at face value is a little silly*.




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Originally Posted by CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted by grapedrink
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
The family’s lawyer says the ASD man pushed the cop in line to get a food sample, then the dad intervened and the cop started shooting. He says this is what the cosco video will show and there are multiple witnesses

Called it
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Taking the ASD Man's family lawyers statement at face value is a little silly*.




*I'll be civilized and not use a word that more accurately describes this.

How about the Cops lawyer?

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Originally Posted by mundus
Originally Posted by CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted by grapedrink
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
The family’s lawyer says the ASD man pushed the cop in line to get a food sample, then the dad intervened and the cop started shooting. He says this is what the cosco video will show and there are multiple witnesses

Called it
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Taking the ASD Man's family lawyers statement at face value is a little silly*.




*I'll be civilized and not use a word that more accurately describes this.

How about the Cops lawyer?

Just as silly.


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You don't have to listen to the family to make a preliminary judgement.

The LAPD already said the cop used excessive force.

No duh!


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Originally Posted by Autoprax
You don't have to listen to the family to make a preliminary judgement.

The LAPD already said the cop used excessive force.

No duh!

Doesn't seem like this one will be hard parse out, witnesses and camera's everywhere.


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It boggles my mind that he would start shooting in a crowded Costco.

I'd just let the retard beat me up.

He would get tired eventually and want a food sample.


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The real bummer is that pretty soon we'll have to go through metal detectors before going to the wine, beer and food sampling stations.


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Originally Posted by CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted by grapedrink
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
The family’s lawyer says the ASD man pushed the cop in line to get a food sample, then the dad intervened and the cop started shooting. He says this is what the cosco video will show and there are multiple witnesses

Called it
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Taking the ASD Man's family lawyers statement at face value is a little silly*.




*I'll be civilized and not use a word that more accurately describes this.


I called the part about it starting at the free sample line, not the actual sequence of events. That's were sh!t gets real at Costco fight drowning


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Originally Posted by grapedrink
Originally Posted by CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted by grapedrink
Originally Posted by BillyOcean
The family’s lawyer says the ASD man pushed the cop in line to get a food sample, then the dad intervened and the cop started shooting. He says this is what the cosco video will show and there are multiple witnesses

Called it
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Taking the ASD Man's family lawyers statement at face value is a little silly*.




*I'll be civilized and not use a word that more accurately describes this.


I called the part about it starting at the free sample line, not the actual sequence of events. That's were sh!t gets real at Costco fight drowning


Especially when you several families with 5+ people crowding around, blocking the aisle almost completely. I don't give a shit about the samples, just clear a path so I can get in and out as quickly as possible as I generally hate shopping.

I avoid Costco on weekends as there are just way too many inept dawdlers. Ditto their gas stations.

Costco could use two things: an Express line and employees with cattle prods to move people along a little faster.

If this cop overreacted in shooting up that family (which it sounds like he did), just brand "Dirty Cop" on his forehead and throw him into GenPop. Actually that should be official procedure for all cops guilty of similar crimes. Clean up the streets.


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Re: Off Duty Cop Kills Nonverbal Son/Wounds Parents at Costco!? [Re: CharmingSophisticate] #2970354
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Originally Posted by CharmingSophisticate
The real bummer is that pretty soon we'll have to go through metal detectors before going to the wine, beer and food sampling stations.


That's actually funny.

I tip my hat.

Cheers.


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Re: Off Duty Cop Kills Nonverbal Son/Wounds Parents at Costco!? [Re: bigsurfer67] #2970377
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I’ve never been to Costco

I can’t see myself ever going

Do they make you have conversations with cashiers like at Trader Joe’s? I’ve never been there either

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Before you have Costco food sample controls you will have to take the egg rolls from my cold dead fingers.


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Re: Off Duty Cop Kills Nonverbal Son/Wounds Parents at Costco!? [Re: Kento] #2970384
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I love it when people get all uppity about costco gas...

"OMG U DON'T GO TO COSTCO FOR GAS U DUM DUM"

I just ask how long they wait in line....?

and how much money are you saving per gallon?

so saving 5 bucks is worth making a 5 minute detour to chevron
a 45 minute ordeal at the Costco?

"you must not value your time very highly"


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Originally Posted by afoaf
I love it when people get all uppity about costco gas...

"OMG U DON'T GO TO COSTCO FOR GAS U DUM DUM"

I just ask how long they wait in line....?

and how much money are you saving per gallon?

so saving 5 bucks is worth making a 5 minute detour to chevron
a 45 minute ordeal at the Costco?

"you must not value your time very highly"


Exactly. I have this exact conversation with my wife every she wants to drive out of our way to go Target (or wherever) because a certain item is $3 cheaper banghead At this point I've automated most of my mundane purchases.

Reminds me of the time 10-15 years ago when Denny's gave everyone a free meal on a certain day. People were standing in line for hours to eat a free meal at Denny's roflmao crazy2


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Originally Posted by afoaf
I love it when people get all uppity about costco gas...

"OMG U DON'T GO TO COSTCO FOR GAS U DUM DUM"

I just ask how long they wait in line....?

and how much money are you saving per gallon?

so saving 5 bucks is worth making a 5 minute detour to chevron
a 45 minute ordeal at the Costco?

"you must not value your time very highly"



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Originally Posted by Kento
Originally Posted by afoaf
I love it when people get all uppity about costco gas...

"OMG U DON'T GO TO COSTCO FOR GAS U DUM DUM"

I just ask how long they wait in line....?

and how much money are you saving per gallon?

so saving 5 bucks is worth making a 5 minute detour to chevron
a 45 minute ordeal at the Costco?

"you must not value your time very highly"



"Anything lost can be found again, except for time wasted."

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Originally Posted by ElOgro
Originally Posted by Kento
Originally Posted by afoaf
I love it when people get all uppity about costco gas...

"OMG U DON'T GO TO COSTCO FOR GAS U DUM DUM"

I just ask how long they wait in line....?

and how much money are you saving per gallon?

so saving 5 bucks is worth making a 5 minute detour to chevron
a 45 minute ordeal at the Costco?

"you must not value your time very highly"



"Anything lost can be found again, except for time wasted."

-- Samuel L. Jackson, Fresh


Hey Skully congratulations on passing 49,000 posts with the frvcvs handle! That’s some gnarly multitasking! trout


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