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Re: Nytimes: The Making of a YouTube Radical [Re: ifallalot] #2967233
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Re: Nytimes: The Making of a YouTube Radical [Re: the janitor] #2967251
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Originally Posted by the janitor
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yeah, it doesn't make sense.

I don't see how parental advisory labels constitute censorship.

it's a rating system....just like the (imperfect) one YouTube uses to filter
out adult-themed content from younger viewers or the MPAA applies
to films.


no one is calling for censorship; respecting the right of a business to legally
enforce its own rules certainly doesn't amount to censorship once you
forego the assumption that some seem to posit here that YouTube has an
obligation to host all content (eg. GDaddy and BillyOcean)


Exactly.

That's why neither of them would touch my questions.

People are so used to internet being free for all that they lost sight of the reality of living in a society with other people.

There's no walk of life where you can behave like Crowder and not suffer some kind of consequences.

Not in your place of work, school, restaurant or any private space. You can go shout on the street but nobody owes you a platform, that was never the case in history.

And suffering the consequence doesn't mean that your right to free speech is taken away. foreheadslap



While I'll admit to moving the goalposts dancing


Bro, you moved the goalposts. dancing

Tipper Gore story is a falacy. I think several people pointed that out. (false concensus maybe?)

CD advisory stickers are not even censorship let alone comparable in any way of private media platforms giving voices to extremist ideology of any kind.

Look, I know it's a loaded question and that's why nobody wants it.

There's been never an instance in which private broadcasting corporations were obliged to give a paltform to ideologues.

Nobody in their right mind would call NBC "authoritarian" if they turned down the David Duke show.

Absurd. shrug

Change my mind.





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Re: Nytimes: The Making of a YouTube Radical [Re: ifallalot] #2967256
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Originally Posted by ifallalot
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What for? Youtube cannot be compelled to treat people fairly on their platform. That much is self-evident.


it's almost like all your preceding posts in this thread did not actually happen.

No it's not. I never advocated forcing Youtube to behave more consistently. I just think they're hypocrites for previously saying they were an open platform and then turning around and doing these other things.

Two assholes calling each other assholes is not harrassment. It's just arguing.




garbage; they never said they were an open platform in the way that you're using the term here

they have always had terms of service policies governing acceptable content

vile ad hominem is not arguing



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Good god



No coherent posts from either you or GDaddy, just usual emotional vomit.

Very feminine!


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Re: Nytimes: The Making of a YouTube Radical [Re: bird.] #2967265
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Originally Posted by bird.
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I'm not saying Crowder or anyone else has a right to a fully monetized presence on whatever media platform. But if the ban hammer is mostly falling on one side then you can expect pushback from places that your board won't like.


Is it possible that another factor here is that the ban hammer falls mostly on right wing content more often because the two sides are not symmetrical in their flaunting of the TOS? How many left wing YouTubers regularly direct slurs at those they disagree with?


possible indeed, though I doubt (without have even a shred of data to back up the following) that the left are all that much better than the right in adhering to the fuzzy at best TOS on the various platforms.

But I probably need to take some DMT or mushrooms to really get a better perspective on all of this.

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A threat response is a potent trigger for motivated reasoning.

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Re: Nytimes: The Making of a YouTube Radical [Re: the janitor] #2967274
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Originally Posted by the janitor
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I'm not saying Crowder or anyone else has a right to a fully monetized presence on whatever media platform. But if the ban hammer is mostly falling on one side then you can expect pushback from places that your board won't like.


Is it possible that another factor here is that the ban hammer falls mostly on right wing content more often because the two sides are not symmetrical in their flaunting of the TOS? How many left wing YouTubers regularly direct slurs at those they disagree with?


possible indeed, though I doubt (without have even a shred of data to back up the following) that the left are all that much better than the right in adhering to the fuzzy at best TOS on the various platforms.

But I probably need to take some DMT or mushrooms to really get a better perspective on all of this.


Take some mushrooms and then observe the difference between mocking somebody's opinion and shouting homophobic slurs at someone.

Maybe mushrooms will help you reach the next dimension. 🍄 smile2 🍄


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Re: Nytimes: The Making of a YouTube Radical [Re: frvcvs] #2967277
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Re: Nytimes: The Making of a YouTube Radical [Re: FecalFace] #2967318
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Originally Posted by the janitor
I'll do my best to remember this thread and report back.


roflmao

That would be a very shitty trip.


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Re: Nytimes: The Making of a YouTube Radical [Re: frvcvs] #2967543
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Originally Posted by NYT
Near the end of our interview, I told Mr. Cain that I found it odd that he had successfully climbed out of a right-wing YouTube rabbit hole, only to jump into a left-wing YouTube rabbit hole. I asked if he had considered cutting back on his video intake altogether, and rebuild some of his offline relationships.


Look at that NYT journalist encouraging the radicalization once it's left wing.

Originally Posted by NYT
Neither of these changes was intended to benefit the far right, and YouTube’s algorithm had no inherent preference for extreme political content. It treated a white nationalist monologue no differently from an Ariana Grande cover or a cake icing tutorial.


Here is the NYT hating America ^

Originally Posted by NYT

A few progressive YouTube channels flourished from 2012 to 2016. But they were dwarfed by creators on the right, who had developed an intuitive feel for the way YouTube’s platform worked and were better able to tap into an emerging wave of right-wing populism.

“I’m not sure the left understands the monumental ass-whupping being dished out to them on YouTube,” Mr. Watson, the conspiracy theorist, tweeted in 2017.


NYT quotes Paul Joseph Watson, which I suppose is the kind of deplatforming the right wing imaginary persecution complex loves to imagine, directly claiming that this is an asymmetrical issue on youtube. It's not the NYT making that up.


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So by all these quotes, we can see that the Left is simply angry that they haven't figured out how to win the 2019 media battle, and it confirms GDaddy's point that the Left wants to silence opposing ideas because their's aren't good enough

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Exactly.

The reason the right gets more bannage is because:

1) There's WAY more of them

2) They are bigger assholes

I don't follow a single lefty YouTube channel, I have zero interest and so do most intelligent people.

Just like AM radio and cable news, which is dominated by right wing propaganda, YT is just an extension of that.

Feeble minds live that shit.


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Re: Nytimes: The Making of a YouTube Radical [Re: ifallalot] #2967555
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Originally Posted by ifallalot
So by all these quotes, we can see that the Left is simply angry that they haven't figured out how to win the 2019 media battle, and it confirms GDaddy's point that the Left wants to silence opposing ideas because their's aren't good enough

dancing


Nobody half intelligent would be interested to listening to a dickhead like Alex Jones, Limbaugh or Crowder screech your confirmation biases.

There's no "media battle". Feeble minded audience is mostly on the right.


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Re: Nytimes: The Making of a YouTube Radical [Re: Sharkbiscuit] #2967556
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Originally Posted by Sharkbiscuit
Originally Posted by NYT
Near the end of our interview, I told Mr. Cain that I found it odd that he had successfully climbed out of a right-wing YouTube rabbit hole, only to jump into a left-wing YouTube rabbit hole. I asked if he had considered cutting back on his video intake altogether, and rebuild some of his offline relationships.


Look at that NYT journalist encouraging the radicalization once it's left wing.

Originally Posted by NYT
Neither of these changes was intended to benefit the far right, and YouTube’s algorithm had no inherent preference for extreme political content. It treated a white nationalist monologue no differently from an Ariana Grande cover or a cake icing tutorial.


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Originally Posted by NYT

A few progressive YouTube channels flourished from 2012 to 2016. But they were dwarfed by creators on the right, who had developed an intuitive feel for the way YouTube’s platform worked and were better able to tap into an emerging wave of right-wing populism.

“I’m not sure the left understands the monumental ass-whupping being dished out to them on YouTube,” Mr. Watson, the conspiracy theorist, tweeted in 2017.


NYT quotes Paul Joseph Watson, which I suppose is the kind of deplatforming the right wing imaginary persecution complex loves to imagine, directly claiming that this is an asymmetrical issue on youtube. It's not the NYT making that up.
None of those quotes say what you are claiming.

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Originally Posted by ifallalot
So by all these quotes, we can see that the Left is simply angry that they haven't figured out how to win the 2019 media battle, and it confirms GDaddy's point that the Left wants to silence opposing ideas because their's aren't good enough

dancing


No, by the quotes, we can see that YouTube isn't anti-right, there are just more right-leaning YouTubers. It rejects GDaddy's point completely.


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