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Re: Trump says he would accept interference from a foreign power in U.S. elections. [Re: everysurfr] #2967961
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You think he lied about something he did that was legal? You are a special kind of stupid.


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Re: Trump says he would accept interference from a foreign power in U.S. elections. [Re: everysurfr] #2967962
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There is nothing that POTUS could say or do that you brainwashed dickbags wouldn’t tie yourself in knots to justify. It’s really pretty fascinating.


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Re: Trump says he would accept interference from a foreign power in U.S. elections. [Re: everysurfr] #2967966
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Originally Posted by everysurfr
From the article you just posted, "In December, Sullivan gave Flynn the opportunity to postpone his sentencing hearing to continue his cooperation with the government in a probe of illegal lobbying for the Turkish government that is being conducted out of the Eastern District of Virginia. A joint status report on Flynn’s case from federal prosecutors and his defense team is due Friday."

You kind of forgot about that whole illegal lobbying thing that he lied about, Dumbfvck


What does any of that have to do with Russian collusion. Turkey is not part of Russia, yet.

Like I said, where's the link to 2016 election tampering by Russian collusion?

Now there's that pesky Ukraine issue becoming Russia (again), if Putin gets his way.


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Re: Trump says he would accept interference from a foreign power in U.S. elections. [Re: Surfdog] #2967968
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Originally Posted by Surfdog
Originally Posted by everysurfr
From the article you just posted, "In December, Sullivan gave Flynn the opportunity to postpone his sentencing hearing to continue his cooperation with the government in a probe of illegal lobbying for the Turkish government that is being conducted out of the Eastern District of Virginia. A joint status report on Flynn’s case from federal prosecutors and his defense team is due Friday."

You kind of forgot about that whole illegal lobbying thing that he lied about, Dumbfvck


What does any of that have to do with Russian collusion. Turkey is not part of Russia, yet.

Like I said, where's the link to 2016 election tampering by Russian collusion?

Now there's that pesky Ukraine issue becoming Russia (again), if Putin gets his way.
Fvck you are dense! You are asking the same question for two years now. The fvcking entire intelligence community said Russia was involved. Trump was on t.v asking for their help finding Hillary's emails.

It's nobody else's job, but your own to figure this out. Stop being so stupid. It reflects badly on you and embarrasses your parents who failed at raising you.


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Re: Trump says he would accept interference from a foreign power in U.S. elections. [Re: everysurfr] #2967972
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Originally Posted by everysurfr
Originally Posted by Surfdog
Originally Posted by everysurfr
From the article you just posted, "In December, Sullivan gave Flynn the opportunity to postpone his sentencing hearing to continue his cooperation with the government in a probe of illegal lobbying for the Turkish government that is being conducted out of the Eastern District of Virginia. A joint status report on Flynn’s case from federal prosecutors and his defense team is due Friday."

You kind of forgot about that whole illegal lobbying thing that he lied about, Dumbfvck


What does any of that have to do with Russian collusion. Turkey is not part of Russia, yet.

Like I said, where's the link to 2016 election tampering by Russian collusion?

Now there's that pesky Ukraine issue becoming Russia (again), if Putin gets his way.
Fvck you are dense! You are asking the same question for two years now. The fvcking entire intelligence community said Russia was involved. Trump was on t.v asking for their help finding Hillary's emails.

It's nobody else's job, but your own to figure this out. Stop being so stupid. It reflects badly on you and embarrasses your parents who failed at raising you.


We all know Russia f'd with our social media to influence the gullible sheep of our new age insta-info. They propagandized both sides to stir shit up, as they knew our growing addiction to the little glowing screens and it's instant gratification and confirmation of our biases. They played with those that believe everything on that glowing piece of idiot plastic in their pocket or purse. Idiot box in a pocket.

Did Trump have anything to do with that kind of election manipulation? Mueller found no evidence worthy of further indicting or convicting for it. He indicted a bunch of Russians, like that was going to go anywhere. But all other indictments were not related to the original investigation and just filler because some "Russian" was contacted somewhere, sometime that had nothing to do with election tampering. Many were either previous business dealings or ambassadors. Some may have been set ups.

We'll see where the Dems in Congress get with all this impeachment charade. If they really want to get to the bottom of it, they need to look at the origins of the FBI warrants in summer 2016, months before the election. More than enough evidence that covert spying was ordered for fake info passed thru many hands, and this from high levels of FBI, CIA and DOJ at that time (oversight by who again?). It was a insurance policy in action, that failed to pay off. That wasn't supposed to happen. It was a done deal. Hillary was a shoe-in. Then it was time to cover tracks and frame it as Russian collusion.

Sloppy obstruction of injustice ensued.

It may all end up biting many Dems in the ass when all is said and done (2016 Dems in power positions).

Trump is no saint, by any stretch. A bombastic blow hard more often than not. But the precedent set in this type of "guilty until proven innocent " mindset the MSM and their followers are foaming at the mouth over is a dangerous track for anyone that takes this job in the future.


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Re: Trump says he would accept interference from a foreign power in U.S. elections. [Re: everysurfr] #2967991
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Very well said Surfdog.


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Re: Trump says he would accept interference from a foreign power in U.S. elections. [Re: casa_mugrienta] #2968008
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Originally Posted by casa_mugrienta


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Trump was given a contribution of STOLEN DOCUMENTS FROM AN ENEMY


A news organization, Wikileaks, released the emails.

The press felt those emails were in the public interest. And they were.

That the emails were advantageous to the Trump campaign is irrelevant - they would have made their way to front page one way or another.

Foreign powers have and will continue to influence our elections in these ways.

It really is a double edged sword, but at the end of the day it's better to know the dirt than not know the dirt.



I agree with you on this 100%. The emails were not found to be stolen by Wikileaks, they were stolen by GRU and given to Wikileaks. To charge Assange with releasing relevant documents would trample the 1st Amendment. It does not matter who the release favored, as long as there were no coordination between Wikileaks and the campaign for a timed release.

However:

The only way to determine who stole the emails, how Wikileaks received them and if there were any coordination in those releases, was by investigation. That investigation was obstructed on multiple levels. And yes, people went to prison for that.

Originally Posted by Mueller Report

...the investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the investigation of Russian election interference. The Office charged some of those lies as violations of the federal falsestatements statute. Former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying about his interactions with Russian Ambassador Kislyak during the transition period. George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy advisor during the campaign period, pleaded guilty to lying to investigators about, inter alia, the nature and timing of his interactions with Joseph Mifsud, the professor who told Papadopoulos that the Russians had dirt on candidate Clinton .in the form of thousands of emails. Former Trump Organization attorney Michael Cohen leaded uilt to makin false statements to Con ress about the Trum Moscow project. REDACTED And in February 2019, the US District Court for the District of Columbia found that Manafort lied to the Office and the grand jury concerning his interactions and communications with Konstantin Kilimnik about Trump Campaign polling data and a peace plan for Ukraine.

Re: Trump says he would accept interference from a foreign power in U.S. elections. [Re: Surfdog] #2968033
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Originally Posted by Surfdog
Originally Posted by everysurfr
Originally Posted by Surfdog
Originally Posted by everysurfr
From the article you just posted, "In December, Sullivan gave Flynn the opportunity to postpone his sentencing hearing to continue his cooperation with the government in a probe of illegal lobbying for the Turkish government that is being conducted out of the Eastern District of Virginia. A joint status report on Flynn’s case from federal prosecutors and his defense team is due Friday."

You kind of forgot about that whole illegal lobbying thing that he lied about, Dumbfvck


What does any of that have to do with Russian collusion. Turkey is not part of Russia, yet.

Like I said, where's the link to 2016 election tampering by Russian collusion?

Now there's that pesky Ukraine issue becoming Russia (again), if Putin gets his way.
Fvck you are dense! You are asking the same question for two years now. The fvcking entire intelligence community said Russia was involved. Trump was on t.v asking for their help finding Hillary's emails.

It's nobody else's job, but your own to figure this out. Stop being so stupid. It reflects badly on you and embarrasses your parents who failed at raising you.


We all know Russia f'd with our social media to influence the gullible sheep of our new age insta-info. They propagandized both sides to stir shit up, as they knew our growing addiction to the little glowing screens and it's instant gratification and confirmation of our biases. They played with those that believe everything on that glowing piece of idiot plastic in their pocket or purse. Idiot box in a pocket.

Did Trump have anything to do with that kind of election manipulation? Mueller found no evidence worthy of further indicting or convicting for it. He indicted a bunch of Russians, like that was going to go anywhere. But all other indictments were not related to the original investigation and just filler because some "Russian" was contacted somewhere, sometime that had nothing to do with election tampering. Many were either previous business dealings or ambassadors. Some may have been set ups.

We'll see where the Dems in Congress get with all this impeachment charade. If they really want to get to the bottom of it, they need to look at the origins of the FBI warrants in summer 2016, months before the election. More than enough evidence that covert spying was ordered for fake info passed thru many hands, and this from high levels of FBI, CIA and DOJ at that time (oversight by who again?). It was a insurance policy in action, that failed to pay off. That wasn't supposed to happen. It was a done deal. Hillary was a shoe-in. Then it was time to cover tracks and frame it as Russian collusion.

Sloppy obstruction of injustice ensued.

It may all end up biting many Dems in the ass when all is said and done (2016 Dems in power positions).

Trump is no saint, by any stretch. A bombastic blow hard more often than not. But the precedent set in this type of "guilty until proven innocent " mindset the MSM and their followers are foaming at the mouth over is a dangerous track for anyone that takes this job in the future.

Good job! You got some stuff right, and still full retard on others.

Here is what you said that was right, "Sloppy obstruction of injustice ensued." That is an impeachable offense. So now you can shut the fvck up with your "Trump did nothing wrong" bullshit. It is retarded and annoying.

Now here is where you are still stupid. The subject of "collusion." tRump did collude with the Russians. He asked them for illegally obtained materials. Collusion, however is not a crime. Conspiracy is a crime. If tRump had anything to do with the planning beforehand, that would be conspiracy. Instead, he got on his knees and begged for the emails.

Now here is where you are disgusting. You admit he obstructed justice. Hopefully you are smart enough to see he did collude, but not conspired with Russia. Yet you still support his presidency. You wrote, "They played with those that believe everything on that glowing piece of idiot plastic in their pocket or purse. Idiot box in a pocket." Yet by your daily bullshit, you try to do the same.

Stop being an asshole.


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Re: Trump says he would accept interference from a foreign power in U.S. elections. [Re: GromsDad] #2968035
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Originally Posted by GromsDad
Very well said Surfdog.

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Re: Trump says he would accept interference from a foreign power in U.S. elections. [Re: Phi1] #2968037
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Originally Posted by Phi1
Originally Posted by casa_mugrienta


Here:

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Trump was given a contribution of STOLEN DOCUMENTS FROM AN ENEMY


A news organization, Wikileaks, released the emails.

The press felt those emails were in the public interest. And they were.

That the emails were advantageous to the Trump campaign is irrelevant - they would have made their way to front page one way or another.

Foreign powers have and will continue to influence our elections in these ways.

It really is a double edged sword, but at the end of the day it's better to know the dirt than not know the dirt.



I agree with you on this 100%. The emails were not found to be stolen by Wikileaks, they were stolen by GRU and given to Wikileaks. To charge Assange with releasing relevant documents would trample the 1st Amendment. It does not matter who the release favored, as long as there were no coordination between Wikileaks and the campaign for a timed release.

However:

The only way to determine who stole the emails, how Wikileaks received them and if there were any coordination in those releases, was by investigation. That investigation was obstructed on multiple levels. And yes, people went to prison for that.

Originally Posted by Mueller Report

...the investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the investigation of Russian election interference. The Office charged some of those lies as violations of the federal falsestatements statute. Former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying about his interactions with Russian Ambassador Kislyak during the transition period. George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy advisor during the campaign period, pleaded guilty to lying to investigators about, inter alia, the nature and timing of his interactions with Joseph Mifsud, the professor who told Papadopoulos that the Russians had dirt on candidate Clinton .in the form of thousands of emails. Former Trump Organization attorney Michael Cohen leaded uilt to makin false statements to Con ress about the Trum Moscow project. REDACTED And in February 2019, the US District Court for the District of Columbia found that Manafort lied to the Office and the grand jury concerning his interactions and communications with Konstantin Kilimnik about Trump Campaign polling data and a peace plan for Ukraine.


That was very well said, Phi1


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Re: Trump says he would accept interference from a foreign power in U.S. elections. [Re: Surfdog] #2968125
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Originally Posted by Surfdog
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So, Dems don't think Hillary had ANYTHING to do with how the DNC operated during the 2016 election campaign and railroading of Bernie?

Keep those blinders on tight.


Bernie lost, get over it. Am I doing this right?

Also note, the only way the general public found out about the railroading of Larry David was through the release of hacked documents from DNC servers, which as we all know had no value whatsoever. Right?


If they had no value, why did they go to extreme measures to destroy all evidence of them?


I was joking about the "no value" part, that was a dig at ifallalot that campaign contributions with respect to things of value are not limited to cash.

Also, I think you're getting the Hillary email scandals mixed up. She had a private server at her home before and during her time as Sec. State which she ordered destroyed.

https://medium.com/@kfrydl/hillary-clintons-private-email-server-4e799a298eaf

The hacked emails released by Wikileaks were of DNC and DCCC servers.

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Originally Posted by frvcvs
There is nothing that POTUS could say or do that you brainwashed dickbags wouldn’t tie yourself in knots to justify. It’s really pretty fascinating.

That sums things up well. Will the Trumtards ever wake up and admit they done been conned?

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Originally Posted by Phi1
Originally Posted by Surfdog
Originally Posted by Phi1
Originally Posted by Surfdog

So, Dems don't think Hillary had ANYTHING to do with how the DNC operated during the 2016 election campaign and railroading of Bernie?

Keep those blinders on tight.


Bernie lost, get over it. Am I doing this right?

Also note, the only way the general public found out about the railroading of Larry David was through the release of hacked documents from DNC servers, which as we all know had no value whatsoever. Right?


If they had no value, why did they go to extreme measures to destroy all evidence of them?


I was joking about the "no value" part, that was a dig at ifallalot that campaign contributions with respect to things of value are not limited to cash.

Also, I think you're getting the Hillary email scandals mixed up. She had a private server at her home before and during her time as Sec. State which she ordered destroyed.

https://medium.com/@kfrydl/hillary-clintons-private-email-server-4e799a298eaf

The hacked emails released by Wikileaks were of DNC and DCCC servers.



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I'll just leave this here.




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Hmm, a lifelong DNC swamp creature that's been sitting on a post that had its actual term end 12 years ago throwing in her two cents about someone she's obviously opposed to

Yeah, that's a "expert" to listen to!


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