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Re: Nytimes: The Making of a YouTube Radical [Re: GDaddy] #2968697
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privacy claims triggered, goes through review process, guy make 18 minute video
of histrionics to gin up more views for his channel.

imagine if the boy was crying wolf because the attention lined his pockets.

youtube has fiduciary exposure on privacy and copyright violations on the platfom
so I would expect them to be more meticulous with claims.

this is not a very compelling case for biased censorship despite the gentleman's
attempts to draft that narrative in pursuit of increased views for himself.


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Re: Nytimes: The Making of a YouTube Radical [Re: grapedrink] #2968709
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Originally Posted by grapedrink
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What was amazing is to hear him whine about how he woke up one morning and it was the "apocalypse", like the worst thing ever.

He learned that he made only 19¢ the previous day on YouTube!!!

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The sense of entitlement these losers have is astonishing.

I just listened to the episode. When you thought he said "apocalypse" he said "ADpocalypse", and I think he added "3.0" to the end of it. Which means it was the 3rd in a series of changes to ad revenue rules on You Tube that resulted in big add revenue losses. He confirmed this with another You Tuber who made $0.35 the previous day (Kyle Kuchinskey(?), or something close to that). A quick google search pulls up some reddit threads on it.

He didn't sound whiny or entitled to me, nor was it a personal apocalypse for him as you claim. He was merely stating the facts, and how he used that as a motivation to change his business model. While this is the first I heard of him, it sounds like he's a bit more advanced than your typical Mom's basement troll and actually has some overhead, which was why he was concerned.

You have quite the mischaracterization tendency. Not sure if its intentional, or a subconscious filter that tells you what you want to hear. Either way, it explains a lot of your replies here trout


"He didn't sound whiny or entitled to me"

"You have mischaracterisation tendency"

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That's a very scientific proof that he didn't sounds whiny.


Literally every Joe Rogan Oprah podcast consists of whining about left wing bias bullshit.

No matter how many times he got pawned on the topic.

Pakman schooled him on the Crowder case and he kept coming back for more. lololo







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Re: Nytimes: The Making of a YouTube Radical [Re: frvcvs] #2968732
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Tim Pool has been getting videos pulled for no real reason

"Basically, Project Veritas found out that Pintrest was classing Christian content as "porn", and censoring it. They posted about it and put out a YouTube video. YouTube removed the video and took action against Project Veritas (you might remember them for the "baby parts" videos related to Planed Parenthood.)

Tim Pool put out a YouTube video. His video was him talking about the article that was put out.

YouTube took down POOL'S video - moreover, they gave him neither warning nor notification on his YouTube profile. He was sent an e-mail later, saying it was a "privacy violation", and that someone had asserted property rights over the video. However, the only people who would have property rights, would be the article he was discussing, which was from either PV or Crowder (neither of which would have asserted a violation).

There was a single woman in the video/article, but it was already publicized (by the Daily Beast, I believe), meaning she had no claim for privacy to take it down...but it's very unlikely that specific woman made the claim.
Pool requested an appeal to YouTube, and got nothing initially, with them finally telling him later it was a privacy violation, but with is repeated requests, they have failed to tell him what the specific privacy issue is or what property right assertion was asserted.

Pool even has contacts in YouTube he's reached out to, and they talked to higher up support...and THEY said they're having to escalate to get him an answer; they've never seen this happen before, and aren't sure what's going on. Even employees WITHIN YouTube seem unable to get an answer thus far.

Meanwhile the overall story is BLOWING UP on social media, and being reported far and wide.
In any case...have a listen.

If you're left of center, go on about "blah blah private company" all you want. We all know what you're going to say, we all know you support this level of totalitarian censorship as long as it supports your side/opposes the right, so you won't be adding anything to the conversation, but feel free to sound off to your little heart's consent."



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Re: Nytimes: The Making of a YouTube Radical [Re: frvcvs] #2968740
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If the original video is flagged it makes sense that derivatives would also get rolled up.

what is conspicuously missing are time lines.... how long was the content unavailable
while under review?

Project Veritas has credibility issues. I am not predisposed to giving those twits the benefit
of doubt.


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Re: Nytimes: The Making of a YouTube Radical [Re: frvcvs] #2968773
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What trips me out is these guys are mad because they are getting kicked out of a club.

I been kicked out of clubs all my life.

I get it.

But here is the deal.

Why do you want to be part of a club that doesn't want you?

It's tell that you are in a child state.

F those A-holes. F the cool kids if they don't want you. (Same goes for chicks that don't want you but that is neither here nor there.)

Be man.

It's the only way.

You stand alone when you try to stand out.


A threat response is a potent trigger for motivated reasoning.

"People who are right a lot listen a lot, and they change their mind a lot. . . . . They wake up and reanalyze things and change their mind. If you don't change your mind frequently, you're going to be wrong a lot."
Re: Nytimes: The Making of a YouTube Radical [Re: frvcvs] #2968800
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"Totalitarian censorship" roflmao

Go to a bar and call somebody a "lispy Mexican queer" and see what the bouncer will do.

Surely they're not going to be "totalitarians"? shrug

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Re: Nytimes: The Making of a YouTube Radical [Re: frvcvs] #2968838
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And here's Pakman schooling Joe Rogan Oprah on the Crowder demonetization.

Worth a listen. smile2 (cued 42:53)


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You stand alone when you try to stand out.

Wah wah wah, the cool kids won't let me play!


A threat response is a potent trigger for motivated reasoning.

"People who are right a lot listen a lot, and they change their mind a lot. . . . . They wake up and reanalyze things and change their mind. If you don't change your mind frequently, you're going to be wrong a lot."
Re: Nytimes: The Making of a YouTube Radical [Re: frvcvs] #2968865
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WRT the bouncers, bouncers bounce people to prevent the escalation of violence. They're generally not going to interceded in a political discussion where such an insult occurs on the incidental during the course of that debate. The argument wasn't about the morality of it, the argument was about their very different politics. It seems unlikely that someone like Crowder would use the term in the same manner with someone whose politics line up a little more like Dave Rubin or even Milo.

WRT social media companies being allowed to have their own TOS, that's fine. So long as it's okay to sue them for unequal applications. I think most of the controversy going around right now is about the inroads the "Change the Terms" program is making in social media. The righties thought they had more room on these outlets and now they're finding out that the companies are increasingly taking sides.

I also think the use of the TOS as the excuse is akin to the IRS using the tax code to get Al Capone in order to stop him from doing other crimes for which they were unsuccessful at suppressing. It's an excuse that is legally defensible but his tax offenses were never the offense they were really after.

I think it will all work its way out over time because as soon as these talking heads making it clear that these outlets will not tolerate the views of half of everyone then each side will end up with their own bubbles, and whichever bubble involves less meddling by the carrier will have the more interesting array of discourse.

Jimmy Dore pointed out in his commentary that the irony of the NYT article atop this thread is that the individual involved first gravitated to the right as a result of his viewing habits then eventually "cured" himself of the wrongthink by the same process. By making his own choices on the more informed basis. No "curating" involved.


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Re: Nytimes: The Making of a YouTube Radical [Re: GDaddy] #2968869
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Originally Posted by GDaddy
WRT the bouncers, bouncers bounce people to prevent the escalation of violence. They're generally not going to interceded in a political discussion where such an insult occurs on the incidental during the course of that debate.


You keep repeating that fvcking fallacy, over and over and over again.

Shouting homophobic slurs at somebody is not a political discussion and it's not even an insult, it's plain harassment.

You could not get away with shouting QUEERS at other customers who happen to be gay in any private place of business. You'd have your ass bounced on the street in no time.

Insult would be saying something like "your opinion is stupid" not calling somebody "a lispy Mexican queer" completely out of context of the discussion.


When are you going to get it in your thick dinosaur skull: insulting behavior =/= insulting identity


Nobody got banned from social media for no reason.

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That's not why they went after Crowder, either. That's the lie.


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Originally Posted by GDaddy
That's not why they went after Crowder, either. That's the lie.


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Nobody "went after" Crowder.

He was being a homophobic piece of shit and got bounced.

Like you would in any walk of life.

Assimilate or GTFO

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That's a very scientific proof that he didn't sounds whiny.

Yes, it's subjective, just like your impression poke
What I know for a fact was that he said AD-pocalypse, not apocalypse. He was speaking of the consequences of an external event, not that the loss in revenue was an apocalypse for him. So yeah, your interpretation in that regard was a fail, and a classic example of how you mischaracterize everything trout
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Pakman schooled him on the Crowder case and he kept coming back for more. lololo

I agree. Rogan should've left issue of whether its okay to call someone a queer alone, especially in the way that Crowder did. Otherwise, they mostly agreed on everything else.

Oddly enough, Pakman feels the way the way I do. That engaging with people you disagree with, and finding flaws in their arguments and refuting them, is far more effective and educational for the audience than outright silencing. There's a lesson to be learned there poke


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