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Re: Medina's board's volume [Re: ChaseTMP] #2966014
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Given that we’re on the volume topic, instead of creating a new thread… I have a clumsy worded question for the more knowledgeable ones in this thread.

I have been slowly upping the volume on my shortboard, by adding width and thickness to my boards, which seems a reasonable approach. At 177cm and 83KG (5.10’ 180+ish in freedom units), my boards tend to range from 5.7’ grovelers, to 6’ HPSB (excluding step ups and novelty short things).

My question is, at what point does adding width and thickness become levers pulled too much, and I’ll need to go longer with my HPSB? The relationship between width, length and thickness (both centre and rail) has me in a bit of a spin sometimes, and I’m reluctant to go longer.

I have been resisting getting my board too long, as I quite like the trend that started years ago, and don’t really want to go back to when I was a grom surfing 6.4’ boars, as they simply do not fit as nicely on the waves I surf the most of the time. When I grew up, I had a world class long walled point break on my doorstep, but now mostly surf beahbreaks, so struggling with longer boards on a smaller canvas.

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Originally Posted by Waxfoot
Given that we’re on the volume topic, instead of creating a new thread… I have a clumsy worded question for the more knowledgeable ones in this thread.

I have been slowly upping the volume on my shortboard, by adding width and thickness to my boards, which seems a reasonable approach. At 177cm and 83KG (5.10’ 180+ish in freedom units), my boards tend to range from 5.7’ grovelers, to 6’ HPSB (excluding step ups and novelty short things).

My question is, at what point does adding width and thickness become levers pulled too much, and I’ll need to go longer with my HPSB? The relationship between width, length and thickness (both centre and rail) has me in a bit of a spin sometimes, and I’m reluctant to go longer.

I have been resisting getting my board too long, as I quite like the trend that started years ago, and don’t really want to go back to when I was a grom surfing 6.4’ boars, as they simply do not fit as nicely on the waves I surf the most of the time. When I grew up, I had a world class long walled point break on my doorstep, but now mostly surf beahbreaks, so struggling with longer boards on a smaller canvas.


Havoc could probably best answer this.

Pretty sure he's riding a 5'0 x 35 x 4 1/2" Tomo Evo at the moment.

The thing is basically an orb, but he can do some really tight old man shreds on it.


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Originally Posted by jkb
Originally Posted by Waxfoot
Given that we’re on the volume topic, instead of creating a new thread… I have a clumsy worded question for the more knowledgeable ones in this thread.

I have been slowly upping the volume on my shortboard, by adding width and thickness to my boards, which seems a reasonable approach. At 177cm and 83KG (5.10’ 180+ish in freedom units), my boards tend to range from 5.7’ grovelers, to 6’ HPSB (excluding step ups and novelty short things).

My question is, at what point does adding width and thickness become levers pulled too much, and I’ll need to go longer with my HPSB? The relationship between width, length and thickness (both centre and rail) has me in a bit of a spin sometimes, and I’m reluctant to go longer.

I have been resisting getting my board too long, as I quite like the trend that started years ago, and don’t really want to go back to when I was a grom surfing 6.4’ boars, as they simply do not fit as nicely on the waves I surf the most of the time. When I grew up, I had a world class long walled point break on my doorstep, but now mostly surf beahbreaks, so struggling with longer boards on a smaller canvas.


Havoc could probably best answer this.

Pretty sure he's riding a 5'0 x 35 x 4 1/2" Tomo Evo at the moment.

The thing is basically an orb, but he can do some really tight old man shreds on it.


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Re: Medina's board's volume [Re: ChaseTMP] #2966029
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I thought my board was a bit too low volume for me and I went and bought the next size up, an inch longer, a 1/8 inch wider and an 1/16 inch thicker about a liter and half more total.

I definitely don't like it as much. It was just enough to push it over the edge into boaty feeling. Also coincided with warmer water temps and less wetsuit but I'm not sure it's going to hang around long. While it paddles slightly better, maybe, it surfs worse, definitely. Convinced me to surf and swim more and think about board volume less.

Re: Medina's board's volume [Re: Waxfoot] #2966067
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Originally Posted by Waxfoot
Given that we’re on the volume topic, instead of creating a new thread… I have a clumsy worded question for the more knowledgeable ones in this thread.

I have been slowly upping the volume on my shortboard, by adding width and thickness to my boards, which seems a reasonable approach. At 177cm and 83KG (5.10’ 180+ish in freedom units), my boards tend to range from 5.7’ grovelers, to 6’ HPSB (excluding step ups and novelty short things).

My question is, at what point does adding width and thickness become levers pulled too much, and I’ll need to go longer with my HPSB? The relationship between width, length and thickness (both centre and rail) has me in a bit of a spin sometimes, and I’m reluctant to go longer.

I have been resisting getting my board too long, as I quite like the trend that started years ago, and don’t really want to go back to when I was a grom surfing 6.4’ boars, as they simply do not fit as nicely on the waves I surf the most of the time. When I grew up, I had a world class long walled point break on my doorstep, but now mostly surf beahbreaks, so struggling with longer boards on a smaller canvas.


It's kind of hard for anyone else to really tell you when too much is too much. You'll know, I think. When the rail doesn't set, when your turns feel flat, when you can't get any bite then you've gone too far with the width/thickness and it might be time to add length or cut back on the beers.

What dims/volumes are you on right now?

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A thread about not enough volume and nobody has dared bring up Dane? Didn't he ride one of Jordy's boards one time and show a bit more flow?
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Re: Medina's board's volume [Re: Aruka] #2966085
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Originally Posted by Aruka
Originally Posted by Waxfoot
Given that we’re on the volume topic, instead of creating a new thread… I have a clumsy worded question for the more knowledgeable ones in this thread.

I have been slowly upping the volume on my shortboard, by adding width and thickness to my boards, which seems a reasonable approach. At 177cm and 83KG (5.10’ 180+ish in freedom units), my boards tend to range from 5.7’ grovelers, to 6’ HPSB (excluding step ups and novelty short things).

My question is, at what point does adding width and thickness become levers pulled too much, and I’ll need to go longer with my HPSB? The relationship between width, length and thickness (both centre and rail) has me in a bit of a spin sometimes, and I’m reluctant to go longer.

I have been resisting getting my board too long, as I quite like the trend that started years ago, and don’t really want to go back to when I was a grom surfing 6.4’ boars, as they simply do not fit as nicely on the waves I surf the most of the time. When I grew up, I had a world class long walled point break on my doorstep, but now mostly surf beahbreaks, so struggling with longer boards on a smaller canvas.


It's kind of hard for anyone else to really tell you when too much is too much. You'll know, I think. When the rail doesn't set, when your turns feel flat, when you can't get any bite then you've gone too far with the width/thickness and it might be time to add length or cut back on the beers.

What dims/volumes are you on right now?

Or find a shaper who understands your needs and knows how to shape the rail and bottom contours to make that extra volume and width work for you. I would contend there's plenty of shapers who aren't able to do this and stuff it up for their customers.


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Originally Posted by Waxfoot
Given that we’re on the volume topic, instead of creating a new thread… I have a clumsy worded question for the more knowledgeable ones in this thread.

I have been slowly upping the volume on my shortboard, by adding width and thickness to my boards, which seems a reasonable approach. At 177cm and 83KG (5.10’ 180+ish in freedom units), my boards tend to range from 5.7’ grovelers, to 6’ HPSB (excluding step ups and novelty short things).

My question is, at what point does adding width and thickness become levers pulled too much, and I’ll need to go longer with my HPSB? The relationship between width, length and thickness (both centre and rail) has me in a bit of a spin sometimes, and I’m reluctant to go longer.

I have been resisting getting my board too long, as I quite like the trend that started years ago, and don’t really want to go back to when I was a grom surfing 6.4’ boars, as they simply do not fit as nicely on the waves I surf the most of the time. When I grew up, I had a world class long walled point break on my doorstep, but now mostly surf beahbreaks, so struggling with longer boards on a smaller canvas.



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"Or find a shaper who understands your needs and knows how to shape the rail and bottom contours to make that extra volume and width work for you. I would contend there's plenty of shapers who aren't able to do this and stuff it up for their customers."



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Re: Medina's board's volume [Re: Aruka] #2966109
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I expected;
* GG post a non-sequitur pic
* Posts about asking a local shaper

Thread didn't' t disappoint.

To be honest, maybe I should have worded it differently (I did warn you to say it's clumsy), as I was not referring to what you guys think is too much volume.

What I mean to ask, is how do you feel about your board length being a limiting factor in more marginal conditions? For example, I rode a 6.2' at 31L (can;t recall the rest of the dims) in daily conditions not long ago, and it felt slow to react in the pocket / cutbacks, but it would have been fine if it were at a long point break

Originally Posted by Aruka
What dims/volumes are you on right now?


Daily / do anything on board is 5'10", 19 1/2", 2 1/2" @ 30.10L.

ps: I'm in no imminent need as I love my boards and how they paddle / move, I'm just curious about adding more and more foam slowly but surely to find that sweet spot.

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Craigslist is your friend. Find something that sounds big for cheap and give it a spin.


Yea, I've been doing that with the more 'novelty boards' - good call though, as I'll keep an eye out for HPSBs.

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My pic is the perfect response to Retropete's comment .

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A well tuned fin placement on a well designed board will be more responsive than just being a lower volume board = its not all about that flotation #

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I’m requesting rail volume to be written on my next custom.

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Medina went somewhat on his own path in a slight incremental way. Paying attention, GG alludes to something often. Because of that I've said in the past if I wuz smart enough to try to be some kind of professor I'd write about

Brand Marketing Influence on the Equipment Predilictions of the Modern Surfer: A History and Analysis


And then there is that saying 'Only a surfer knows the feeling'

Would that feeling be different today if Kelly won just as much but was built like Occy?

What might have happened to today's assumed right volume to weight ratio?

Better for surfing or not as much progression when compared to other board sports?

How might surfboards look different?

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Last time I checked OTR boards were for pretty stocky built dudes. Maybe years ago glass slippers but not today.

Filipe rides chips.

How do you guys feel about his rails - Did they stink?

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