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Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: ifallalot] #2956306
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There was a talking head on CNN this AM that was attempting to explain it.

A kid will get extra points if he comes from a shitty school. So the worse your school, the more points granted.

More points are also granted depending upon the economic state of the neighborhood your home address is located in. The worse/poorer the overall state of your zip code, the more points you get.

So if you were home schooled by your crack whore mother and your address was a '76 Chevy parked in the empty lot behind a burned out liquor store, you're going to Harvard.

Kidding. I kid. J/K.


Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: ifallalot] #2956307
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You want to create access for talented poor kids to rise. It makes the country more robust.

That is all this is.

Of course the execution of the task is vulnerable to mismanagement.

But that is something that just needs to be addresses as it occurs.


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Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: FecalFace] #2956310
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College admissions is a fun head high point break discovered by suppers. They dominate the place. there are long boarders out there who snag some of the waves. It’s rippable on a short board, but shortboarders can’t get shit because the surfers with more foam sit further out and get all the set waves. A lot of the shortboarders rip way harder than the lots-of-foam crew, but they just get scraps. Eventually some of the suppers and long boarders said”you know, we’re totally hogging this point. We should let a few waves go to the shortboarders. Let some of the set waves go to the shortboarders.” Some of the suppers said, “Yeah, that’s cool.” But, some of the suppers, the more kooky ones, disagreed with the plan. They liked having the advantage, didn’t even care when the ran over a shortboarder. These selfish suppers were fvkcing kooks who could never ride a shortboard. When not looking out on their SUPs they localized the parking lot with their lifted 4x4s that never left the pavement.


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Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: ifallalot] #2956311
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I want the kids to succeed in whatever school they do make it into. A kid who might be in over their head at one school may end up being a standout at another school. A kid who washes out of a school because they weren't sufficiently competitive has not only taken the place of another applicant who might have been more competitive, but they also have the unnecessary negative experience when compared to what would have happened if they'd applied to a program that was a better match for their skills.




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Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: FecalFace] #2956321
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Originally Posted by FecalFace
Explain how is this denying opportunity.

A child has no control where or who they are raised by. If there are two kids who get the same earned test score and the one with a higher "adversity score" gets the nod over the kid with the lower adversity score, the one with the lower adversity score was denied opportunity because of aspects out of their control

Its really simple


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Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: ifallalot] #2956322
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What would you rather have lower adversity or a higher adversity score?


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Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: Autoprax] #2956323
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Originally Posted by Autoprax
You want to create access for talented poor kids to rise. It makes the country more robust.

That is all this is.

Of course the execution of the task is vulnerable to mismanagement.

But that is something that just needs to be addresses as it occurs.

Of course that's what this is, and it has good intentions behind it

Unfortunately, you cannot deny access to others due to reasons outside of their control and remain having any notions of equality.


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Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: Autoprax] #2956324
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Originally Posted by Autoprax
What would you rather have lower adversity or a higher adversity score?

I don't know if its like a golf score or a baseball score

I'm guessing you get more points for more adversity, but it could be the opposite


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Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: ifallalot] #2956367
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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by Autoprax
You want to create access for talented poor kids to rise. It makes the country more robust.

That is all this is.

Of course the execution of the task is vulnerable to mismanagement.

But that is something that just needs to be addresses as it occurs.

Of course that's what this is, and it has good intentions behind it

Unfortunately, you cannot deny access to others due to reasons outside of their control and remain having any notions of equality.


Reason dictates that if you admit more smart poor kids, you won't be able to admit as many rich kids.

There's nothing wrong with that.

Nowhere does it say that stupid poor kids will have advantage over smart rich kids.

That's your projection.

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If you are rich kid you just go to Pepperdine.


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Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: ifallalot] #2956378
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Originally Posted by ifallalot
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Or I could be selfish and not do any tutoring for them nor GAF about their lives. Then they would get a better score


What are you talking about? roflmao foreheadslap

I'm starting to become convinced you are joking.

Why don't you read the whole post, in context, instead of picking out two separate sentences.


I did. roflmao

Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: ifallalot] #2956379
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Originally Posted by ifallalot
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Your soon-to-be college kids are the exact ones who will be affected negatively by this


One just went through process, and is accepted to the college she wanted. All good, thanks.

Yeah, because this process hasn't started yet.


Ah, I see. So our next kid is screwed? foreheadslap

Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: rice] #2956388
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have they stated how this stuff gets weighted?

the devil is in the details....


on the one hand, the quality of education that certain regions and demographic cohorts
enjoy is grossly incomparable to others, but I'd rather see that remedied than the system
trying to make up for its shortcomings in the de facto ranking/scoring system used for
college admissions.

this is just wrapping shitty code in an eval() instead of just fixing the underlying code

poor form.


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Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: rice] #2956389
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Somebody's kid is going to get penalized, even if it isn't your's. If there's a 5,000 student cap on a college's Fall 2020 enrollment then somebody's kid is going to rank 5000th on that list. All of the discretionary admittances that made it in despite having lower previous performance and/or test outcomes will have bypassed #5000 on that discretionary basis. If there are 500 such admittances then the number of the higher performing students who got the shaft will number 500. Not 1.

It was a marathon, but we adjusted the outcomes to move the winner forward from their 6th place finish to become the winner because they have a lower testosterone count and were therefore performing at a disadvantage. Because in terms of equity calling first person to cross the line the winner is discriminatory and oppressive.


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Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: ifallalot] #2956394
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Schools in Asia operate on a competitive basis that dwarfs what happens in the college admittance programs here in the U.S..


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