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Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: Autoprax] #2956231
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Originally Posted by Autoprax
Your kid can just go to a CC, living at home, and then transfer to a state college.

If money is an issue, that is the only way to do to college.

People a fvcking nuts when it comes to college.

I would have been better at school and less in debt if I did the CC-UC route as opposed to fooking off at a state college for 5 years

However it all worked out in the end so que sera sera


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Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: ifallalot] #2956235
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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Nice retort


You didn't say anything of any substance so there's nothing to retort.

Mainly just white knighting for rich people for being "morally" wronged. roflmao

Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: FecalFace] #2956243
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Nice retort


You didn't say anything of any substance so there's nothing to retort.

Mainly just white knighting for rich people for being "morally" wronged. roflmao

For someone who professes to fight for equality you have zero idea what equality actually is


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Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: ifallalot] #2956248
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Originally Posted by ifallalot
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Nice retort


You didn't say anything of any substance so there's nothing to retort.

Mainly just white knighting for rich people for being "morally" wronged. roflmao

For someone who professes to fight for equality you have zero idea what equality actually is


Right, because it's the rich and privileged who are unequal.

When people who are actually wronged seek equality, it's "special treatment".

And it's pretty comical for you to talk about any kind of morality. Sheesh.

You are completely devoid of both morality and any sense of ethics.

Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: FecalFace] #2956254
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Originally Posted by FecalFace
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Nice retort


You didn't say anything of any substance so there's nothing to retort.

Mainly just white knighting for rich people for being "morally" wronged. roflmao

For someone who professes to fight for equality you have zero idea what equality actually is


Right, because it's the rich and privileged who are unequal.

When people who are actually wronged seek equality, it's "special treatment".

And it's pretty comical for you to talk about any kind of morality. Sheesh.

You are completely devoid of both morality and any sense of ethics.

Holy shit. You have it completely backwards, just like usual.

Equality doesn't come from seeking remedies for past "wrongs," equality is equal treatment of everyone, regardless of background. People seeking remedies that creates other inequalities is absolutely special treatment. I have no idea why this is so hard for you to understand

Equity of outcome is not equality.


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Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: ifallalot] #2956261
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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by FecalFace
Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by FecalFace
Originally Posted by ifallalot
Nice retort


You didn't say anything of any substance so there's nothing to retort.

Mainly just white knighting for rich people for being "morally" wronged. roflmao

For someone who professes to fight for equality you have zero idea what equality actually is


Right, because it's the rich and privileged who are unequal.

When people who are actually wronged seek equality, it's "special treatment".

And it's pretty comical for you to talk about any kind of morality. Sheesh.

You are completely devoid of both morality and any sense of ethics.

Holy shit. You have it completely backwards, just like usual.

Equality doesn't come from seeking remedies for past "wrongs," equality is equal treatment of everyone, regardless of background. People seeking remedies that creates other inequalities is absolutely special treatment. I have no idea why this is so hard for you to understand

Equity of outcome is not equality.


"Past wrongs" implies that racism, sexism or xenophobia don't exist in this country.

That very easily disproved.

Saying equality is "special treatment" in those cases but crying about rich and privileged being "morally wronged" is comical and offensive.

You are the worst kind of SJW.

Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: FecalFace] #2956268
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Originally Posted by FecalFace

"Past wrongs" implies that racism, sexism or xenophobia don't exist in this country.

That very easily disproved.

Saying equality is "special treatment" in those cases but crying about rich and privileged being "morally wronged" is comical and offensive.

You are the worst kind of SJW.

You seriously don't get it

So to "fix" racism, sexism, and xenophobia, you propose to fight it with more racism, sexism, and xenophobia?

Special treatment is not equality. Equality requires both the positive and negative sides of the ledger. The "rich and privileged" are subject to the same morality as everyone else, despite your jealousy


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Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: ifallalot] #2956271
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Equal treatment is a barrier to the equal outcomes, which is why they don't seek equal and instead are seeking equity. It is the search for equity that is used to rationalize disparate treatment.


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Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: ifallalot] #2956277
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Originally Posted by ifallalot
Originally Posted by FecalFace

"Past wrongs" implies that racism, sexism or xenophobia don't exist in this country.

That very easily disproved.

Saying equality is "special treatment" in those cases but crying about rich and privileged being "morally wronged" is comical and offensive.

You are the worst kind of SJW.

You seriously don't get it

So to "fix" racism, sexism, and xenophobia, you propose to fight it with more racism, sexism, and xenophobia?


What?

Seriously WTF are you talking about? Who ever said anything like that?

Originally Posted by ifallalot
Special treatment is not equality. Equality requires both the positive and negative sides of the ledger. The "rich and privileged" are subject to the same morality as everyone else, despite your jealousy


Nice straw man.

You keep talking about "special treatment" while completely ignoring the fact that inequality demonstrably exists.

"Rich people are subject to same morality", what morality?

You don't apply that same morality in any other case. Exactly the opposite.

I'm not "jealous" of the rich people, I just find it comical that that's who you choose to white knight for while ignoring the actual inequality.


Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: ifallalot] #2956280
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Unequal outcomes exist among adult siblings (as just one example). That doesn't mean they were ever treated unequally or that treating the less successful one more favorably from here on out will make their outcome equal to the more successful one.



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Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: GDaddy] #2956281
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Originally Posted by GDaddy
Unequal outcomes exist among adult siblings (as just one example). That doesn't mean they were ever treated unequally or that treating the less successful one more favorably from here on out will make their outcome equal to the more successful one.



Nobody is calling for equal outcomes.

This is about equal opportunity.

It's not that hard.

Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: ifallalot] #2956283
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Equal opportunity comes from equal treatment, not disparate treatment.

The whole pay-to-play college admissions bribery scandal is a crime precisely because the accused attempted to acquire the disparate treatment in order to compensate for the individual's inferior choices and performance. It's immoral for a parent to do that and it's equally immoral for the state or a college to do that.

Legacy admissions and politically-motivated biases are other examples of that disparate treatment and they've gotta go, too.

I DGAF if UCLA's entire class of 2025 is asian or any other group if that occurs as a result of their performance.


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Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: FecalFace] #2956287
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Originally Posted by FecalFace
Originally Posted by GDaddy
Unequal outcomes exist among adult siblings (as just one example). That doesn't mean they were ever treated unequally or that treating the less successful one more favorably from here on out will make their outcome equal to the more successful one.



Nobody is calling for equal outcomes.

This is about equal opportunity.

It's not that hard.

And denying certain people opportunity because of things outside of their control is the exact opposite of equal opportunity.


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Re: INTERSECTIONALITY IS JUST INTERNET MADNESS- IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD [Re: ifallalot] #2956293
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Explain how is this denying opportunity.

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“The College Board plans to assign an adversity score to every student who takes the SAT to try to capture their social and economic background, jumping into the debate raging over race and class in college admissions.”

Who is on this “College Board?” Must be a bunch of black single mothers from Compton, Baltimore, and Detroit. Nawimsayin?


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