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Re: Can anyone explain why the body of the mother is more vital than the life of the child? [Re: everysurfr] #2954264
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I hear where you’re coming from. I hate abortion. It’s barbaric and it’s murder. But, it’s not on you. It’s not about you. Child labor sucks also. Exploitation of women, of impoverished workers. There’s a lot of injustice you might be able to do something about.
If you can figure out the abortion quandary... good for you. Let’s hear it.


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Re: Can anyone explain why the body of the mother is more vital than the life of the child? [Re: grapedrink] #2954269
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Originally Posted by grapedrink
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...roe-v-wade-passes-alabama-house-n1000461
You can't tell a woman what to do with her body, but you can tell a child to get shredded by a vacuum cleaner?


Don’t ask me. Ask a 14 year old impregnated by her uncle. Let’s give her opinion some weight.

So It's the baby that has to die because the uncle was evil? The baby is the one getting killed. What do you think the baby wants?

Can somebody think this all the way through, or is this just more knee jerk platitudes?

Knee jerk? Look in the mirror. Unless you’re trolling, in which case, troll on shaka

So you want to force rape victims to carry babies to term also confused2

No trolling
It's never the babies fault, but many are willing to kill it.


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Re: Can anyone explain why the body of the mother is more vital than the life of the child? [Re: everysurfr] #2954270
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Originally Posted by everysurfr
What do you think the baby wants?


first, it's a fetus, not a baby.

and the fetus wants nothing. it is not conscious or sentient.


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Re: Can anyone explain why the body of the mother is more vital than the life of the child? [Re: everysurfr] #2954271
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It's never the babies fault, but many are willing to kill it.

It’s not the victims fault for getting raped either. Yet you want to punish them further by forcing them to carry a baby to term and be reminded of being raped every day.
Sad! toilet


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Re: Can anyone explain why the body of the mother is more vital than the life of the child? [Re: afoaf] #2954276
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Originally Posted by afoaf
Originally Posted by everysurfr
What do you think the baby wants?


first, it's a fetus, not a baby.

and the fetus wants nothing. it is not conscious or sentient.

Are you going to tell me when the fetus becomes human? Because I don't know.
Are you conscious or sentient when you are sleeping? Is that a test for life?


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Re: Can anyone explain why the body of the mother is more vital than the life of the child? [Re: everysurfr] #2954277
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Virtually all abortion legislation includes exemptions for incest and rape, so that argument is all but a strawman.

This wouldn't even be a discussion if men had the right to refuse paternity. If men had the "choice" to decline to spend 20 years of their life financially supporting a woman's biological imperative in exchange for the women's right to not be a parent then there's no question how the issue would be decided.



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Re: Can anyone explain why the body of the mother is more vital than the life of the child? [Re: grapedrink] #2954278
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Originally Posted by grapedrink
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No trolling
It's never the babies fault, but many are willing to kill it.

It’s not the victims fault for getting raped either. Yet you want to punish them further by forcing them to carry a baby to term and be reminded of being raped every day.
Sad! toilet

1. I'm not punishing any victim.
2. A baby or not, they will remember being raped every day.
3. You think it's better to "punish" the child?
4. Why not save a child's life, and carry it to term, and then let it be raised by a family who will love it?


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Re: Can anyone explain why the body of the mother is more vital than the life of the child? [Re: 1whoknows] #2954280
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Alyssa Milano sticks her foot in it again......



That's one way to reduce abortions. dancing toilet bricks

So far, none of the film industries have backed away from Georgia's very generous 30% reduction in location fees and other filming charges L.A. and other states charge. monkey

Seems money talks, and pro-abortion claimers DON'T walk. pokestick


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Re: Can anyone explain why the body of the mother is more vital than the life of the child? [Re: everysurfr] #2954296
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The origin of the majority of screeching in favor of abortion is the result of individuals trying to rationalize their guilt over themselves, a family member or a friend having murdered a child in the womb. Its their way of trying to make you believe that the horrific thing they've been a part of is OK and that you should think this horrific behavior is OK too.


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Re: Can anyone explain why the body of the mother is more vital than the life of the child? [Re: everysurfr] #2954303
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Originally Posted by everysurfr

You can't tell a woman what to do with her body, but you can tell a child to get shredded by a vacuum cleaner?


Yes.


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Re: Can anyone explain why the body of the mother is more vital than the life of the child? [Re: GDaddy] #2954305
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Originally Posted by GDaddy
Virtually all abortion legislation includes exemptions for incest and rape, so that argument is all but a strawman.

This wouldn't even be a discussion if men had the right to refuse paternity. If men had the "choice" to decline to spend 20 years of their life financially supporting a woman's biological imperative in exchange for the women's right to not be a parent then there's no question how the issue would be decided.



The rape and incest exemptions are chicken shit. If it’s a human it’s no less of a human no matter how it was conceived.

As to your “if men had a choice”...that’s not really a factor at all....

Men and womens views on abortion are roughly the same...

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Re: Can anyone explain why the body of the mother is more vital than the life of the child? [Re: Surfdog] #2954309
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Originally Posted by Surfdog
Alyssa Milano sticks her foot in it again......

<iframe width="416" height="234" src="//fave.api.cnn.io/v1/fav/?video=politics/2019/05/13/abortion-law-alyssa-milano-sex-strike-vpx.hln&customer=cnn&edition=domestic&env=prod" frameborder="0"></iframe>

That's one way to reduce abortions. dancing toilet bricks

So far, none of the film industries have backed away from Georgia's very generous 30% reduction in location fees and other filming charges L.A. and other states charge. monkey

Seems money talks, and pro-abortion claimers DON'T walk. pokestick


So she’s basically saying that abortion is used for birth control...


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Re: Can anyone explain why the body of the mother is more vital than the life of the child? [Re: everysurfr] #2954310
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Originally Posted by everysurfr
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Originally Posted by everysurfr
What do you think the baby wants?


first, it's a fetus, not a baby.

and the fetus wants nothing. it is not conscious or sentient.

Are you going to tell me when the fetus becomes human? Because I don't know.
Are you conscious or sentient when you are sleeping? Is that a test for life?


It’s seems like you want to argue. You picked a good topic.


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Re: Can anyone explain why the body of the mother is more vital than the life of the child? [Re: everysurfr] #2954312
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Conservatives don't seem to mind when embryos used for in-vitro fertilization are destroyed. I wish they would explain why.


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FWIW, I don’t want abortion to be illegal but, with the exception of some rare cases (rape for example), if you’re getting an abortion you made several bad decisions well before finding yourself in that position.

Abortion doesn’t really “protect the rights of women to do what they want with their bodies” it absolves them of responsibility when they CHOOSE to make bad decisions.

1. There is a 100% effective way not to get pregnant. Don’t have sex.

2. Barring that there is contraception available most everywhere for little or no cost. Sure, in some areas it’s difficult to get contraception. In those cases see #1.

3. Or kill your baby. I don’t really care.


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