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Had been noticing more and more eye floaters the past decade. Especially when waiting outside for a set to roll in. Most prominent when looking at the clear sky. Mostly annoying little squiggly things floating in my line of vision. So, after a recent trip from the middle east and a lot of hours on a plane I noticed a greater mass of floaters and flashes or sparks in my right eye.

Went to Scripps to see their specialist who examines and declares I simply have to live with it. Got a second opinion by another specialist, same prognosis. It's a bitch. Although both MDs declared the time in a plane has no affect on my floaters, my left eye developed more mass and flashing after a round trip, San D'go to Argentina in 5 days.

Anyone have any experience dealing/resolving floaters? I am looking at a clinic in FL - web site -http://www.vitreousfloaters.com/pages/1/index.htm

If you've had luck/bad luck I would appreciate your feedback or comments.

Thanks!

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What do your floaters look like? Candida yeast grow cells with intervening hyphae or strands. I think most people's floaters look something like this:



Do a google search for "candida floaters". Such a search would seem subjective. It is. Lots of the sites you find are prejudiced. But some of the sites are good medical sites which link eye floaters to diet, and an overabundance of the yeast candida albicans.

That's not to say that floaters aren't sometimes caused by other things, like detachment of the vitreous eye fluid. So it's a good thing you got your eyes checked by an eye doctor.

Exercise regularly. Stop eating sweets. Stop drinking and breathing chlorine. Regulate your fruit intake. Take reasonably large B and C vitamins.

My lasik doc started me using eye drops. Drops keep eyes moist. I think my doc was correct. I think the drop effect makes my eyes healthier.

Your corner pharmacy probably sells two kinds of eye drops, simply saline, and zinc eye drops. Besides the above diet, supplement and exercise regimen, I've reduced my floaters by mixing these eye drops and using them. The zinc helps control yeast growth.

Broken record here. So many different Western symptoms are caused by the same things, sugar and chlorine. Stop ingesting them.

No really, you don't have to thank me.

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Thanks Fracas. The floaters went from the similar objects in your post to black and cloudy patches (at first I was so distracted because I thought there were gnats or bugs flying around my periferal). I get a B-12 shot every 2 weeks, have no contact (I am aware of) with chlorine and started exercising more than surfing several times a week to long walks on coast highway and jogging several miles, several times a week. I'm trying to cut back on the sweets :-)

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Thanks Fracas. The floaters went from the similar objects in your post to black and cloudy patches (at first I was so distracted because I thought there were gnats or bugs flying around my periferal). I get a B-12 shot every 2 weeks, have no contact (I am aware of) with chlorine and started exercising more than surfing several times a week to long walks on coast highway and jogging several miles, several times a week. I'm trying to cut back on the sweets :-)




You're welcome. Yes, when you feed Candida it "blooms". It forms more cells as it sends out new strands. As your body starts clearing blood sugar, attacking mucous membrane candida, and healing your gut walls, candida goes into a dormant state. In this state candida preserves the strands in a shrunken state, and preserves the yeast cell nuclei inside emaciated outer shells.

When you feed that dormant form of candida again, it springs back to life and grows more candida cells. I'm trying to say that candida are tough little buggers. Once infested, you can't get rid of them. You can only control them. Some scientists estimate that 2/3 of westerners are overgrown with candida albicans.

If you stop eating sugar and sweets, then you don't hafta always be trying to cut back. The craving goes away. If you drink tap water, drink drinks made with tap water, or open your eyes in a swimming pool then you're ingesting chlorine. The dosage is low, but accumulated over a lifetime the dosage is prohibitively high.

So most people are saying.... "So you get eye floaters. Compare that with having to do without sweets. I'll take the sweets." Eye floaters can be the least of candida's symptoms. Like all living things, candida eats, drinks, pees and poops. It pees and poops poisons. Some people can deal with the poisons for a long time. Some people get really sick. But the biggest complaint among candida patients is "brain fog".

Mainstream western medicine hasn't established direct cause and effect relationships between most candida-caused maladies and candida.

Three reasons:
1. Most westerners are overrun with candida. There is no control group.
2. Drug companies make money off treating symptoms, not off of telling people to stop enjoying themselves.
3. Doctors work for patients. They get paid to cure patients' symptoms. If eliminating the cause is short and effective, that's what doctors do. If curing the symptom is the fastest route back to health, that's what doctors do. Doctors aren't into determining the cause while their patients languish. ....well most doctors can't get away with doing it twice.

Candida's cause is long term and lifestyle related. It's cure is likewise long term and lifestyle related. You're probably measuring giving up sweets against "brain fog" and having somebody laser the vitreous fluid of your eyes. Good luck

Oh, and start eating plain live yogurt.

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Fracas, on the chlorine topic - I spend a lot of time swimming to stay in shape; is opening your eyes in chlorinated water the only way you ingest chlorine (other than the occasional inevitable mouthful of pool water)? Is being in a closed pool environment exposing yourself to chlorine gas (evaporation of the pool water)?

To my knowledge, no local pools use anything other than chlorine for pool treatment (I once worked at a pool that used bromine, I think?). Wish we had seawater-filled pools like Australia...

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Fracas, on the chlorine topic - I spend a lot of time swimming to stay in shape; is opening your eyes in chlorinated water the only way you ingest chlorine (other than the occasional inevitable mouthful of pool water)? Is being in a closed pool environment exposing yourself to chlorine gas (evaporation of the pool water)?




I searched for a specific British study done about four years ago, but there are too many smaller studies of the effects of inhaling indoor pool chlorine. They all have the same result.

The large British study followed a large sample of kid athletes who practiced and swam in indoor pools. The study found an extremely high incidence of flat-out chlorine lung poisoning, and anextremely high incidence of asthma among the participants compared to the general population.

The chlorine used in the large pool cholrinators evaporates from pool water rapidly, and forms a nasty gas. I think it's sodium tetrachloride, and related chlorine gasses. No expert here, but I think I know this part. Inhaling chlorine gasses damages the lung's alveoli, the lung lining, the cell structure which transfers air oxygen to the blood.

That part of the lungs is guarded by mucous membranes. Secondary infection of the alveoli and membranes will follow, but damaging the lung lining, all by itself, is bad, very bad.

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Many possible causes of floaters and no great treatments depending on cause of course. You did the right thing by seeing a specialist, two even! Good luck!


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I've had mine for about three years now, toooooooooooooooooooo much time in tech theater in high school, staring into 1000-2000w very focused lights yelling "to the left, no right, more, no left...."


Enjoy your self, it's later than you think.
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How is everyone going with their floaters today, did they reduce or resolve, any updates?

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Not necessarily floaters, but I get Ocular Migraines. This consists of flashing prism floaters that can impair your vision for a period of time. Usually followed by a migraine headache - I am lucky that I have not experienced the headaches that follow. Usually lasts an hour or so.

Not sure what causes them, but I have been getting them occasionally for the last 25 years or so. Happens maybe once or twice a month.

Kind of like a mini-flashback - heh.

I think I have experienced more actual floaters since I had lasic done last year.

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Peoples comments on eye floaters:
Floaters caused by loose cells, for example, are usually not that bothersome and often go away on their own in a few weeks or months. The floaters that look like wispy threads tend to be more visible, and in most cases they will also go away with time. In some cases, however, they can signal other problems.
It usually takes about a month, but sometimes it can take up to six months. Floaters will gradually get smaller and less noticeable as the weeks and months go by, but usually they never disappear completely. Do not worry if you have a few floaters.
Break down of proteins in eye and associated with dry eye, floaters are loose collegen. Typically harmless unless black spots or flash.
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Guys, do not want to discourage anyone but you should know that what people call 'floaters' can be caused by two different processes:
1) Vitreous degeneration - when the protein structure of vitreous is damaged. It is what most of the people on this forum suffer. Once appeared, these floaters stay forever till YAG or FOV. Because vitreous is not so clever to be able to restore its fibre structure.

2) Just hemorrhage. Blood effusion in vitreous. The vitreous itself remain undamaged in this case. These floaters disolve themselves from several months to year after effusion stops and blood filters away. Such lucky people generate most of positive stories on such forums and do not stay here for long.

What kind of 'floaters' you have only doctor can say. But unforturnately not every doctor) So time can tell it more precisely.
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Eye is a dynamic system and water and nutrients are delivered to the cells in the eye including vitreous - so it is ACCESSIBLE. Therefore
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4 types - collegen , protein, white blood cells, red blood cells
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Another option is waiting: eye floaters, if innocuous enough, can disappear after a period of approximately six months.
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Anybody read about this, or maybe even tried it??
https://store.drsamberne.com/products/m ... ct-reviews
Apparently it should help floaters and on the site there are great reviews......allthough I am not sure if they are fake or what.

Reply: I tried MSM and Vitamin C eye drops and they did not work for me. I would say however to try them you have nothing to lose, if you dont see results in like 2 months its prob not going to work.

Many people in my r/zerocarb and r/carnivore facebook group have had a reduction and dissapearance of eye floaters on the carnivore diet. Jordan Peterson on the July 2018 Joe Rogan interview said his went away.

Im going on the diet full fledge
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Ive been suffering from a large number or eye floaters and it was hampering with my normal vision. I searched the internet for cures and answeres, none of it really helped. The only advise i got was that id have to learn to live with it.

But recently i had been using 'GLUTATHIONE' for skin whitening. After about a week of use i noticed considerable degeneration of eye floaters, they began to fade. About a month and a half later i am 98% free of eye floaters. Now i have clearer vision and eye floaters are a thing of the past now. I still have one eye floater remaining, it was the most opaque one, but now its the only one remaining and it is 90% gone with a very minor remnance of what it was.

Glutathione eye drops are available for purchase. The experiment i did was on myself and i found the results to be miraculously positive.

I do not recomend any medications or treatments as i am not a licensed physician. But I guess i dont have to be one to experiment on myself

I hope this helps in some way.. i know the anguish of having eye floaters and hope that everyone could get better vision.
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Any eye condition in which the clarity of the vitreous humor is altered can produce the symptom of eye floaters. As one gets older, changes normally begin within the vitreous humor.
Red blood cells as a result of hemorrhage and white blood cells as a result of inflammation are common types of cellular material causing eye floaters.
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Most eye floaters decrease in size, density, and darkness with time. Some of this is due to actual absorption of the floater through the natural processes within the eye.
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Although certain herbs, vitamins, home remedies and iodine-containing products have been touted as effective in decreasing eye floaters, none of these have been proven effective in clinical trials. In the unusual cases in which the eye floaters are due to white blood cells in the vitreous from inflammation or infection, appropriate anti-inflammatory drugs or antibiotics will reduce the number of white blood cells.
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I have come to believe floaters may be parasites.
Parasites can be removed with a strong herbal detox supplement that entails a herxheimer reaction (feel worse before you feel better healing reaction).
Also, a natural treatment known as Turpentine therapy, that sends them packing with no side effects.
Dr. Jennifer Daniels has extensive information and testimonials as well as protocols on this therapy, which yes, I have done myself.
I continue to use turpentine therapy on an ongoing basis for parasites, candida, and many other ailments it has been a known cure for before 1900 when they decided to drop it from the Merck manual.
They would rather sell you pharmaceuticals now, sadly.
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If the floaters are due to an underlying disease condition e.g. posterior uveitis, the condition is treated and that usually resolves the floaters.
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I get these eye floaters sometimes. I tried vitamin E oil and it goes away.
Check the following remedies to get rid of eye floaters naturally:
1. Do Eye exercises or Yoga For Eyes.
2. Try to Eat Vitamin E,C rich foods to fight Eye problems.
3.If you have allergy please be clean your hands, towels.
4.Avoid Smoking (for smokers only)
5.Fish Oil is Also Good For Eyes
[Before trying any remedy please consult doctor]
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MSM LIQUID is good for cleaning and hydration of eye and floaters
* from eBay seller pureMSM : Most forms of MSM, including those imported from China, are synthetic and are derived from a fossil fuel source. On the other hand, TriMedica PureMSM is an all-natural source of MSM derived only from pine trees. PureMSM contains no addition or dilution with fossil fuel derived material. So, don't be fooled by cheap MSM brands that seem like a good buy, but in reality may contain fossil fuel additives or heavy metals (including lead!). With TriMedica PureMSM, you get the purity guarantee of 99.9% ultra pure, all-natural, food grade MSM that gives you all the fabulous health benefits of MSM without the additives or heavy metals!
Dr Berg... I have been using an MSM water eye drop for years. I very rarely have a problem with floaters like I once did. I just had an eye exam and my eyes are perfect. I am 66 years young. Glaucoma and macular degeneration runs in my family. I use Richs MSM water drops. I order off line. Just type in that name and it will take you to the sight. I didnt know exactly what they would do for my eyes till I saw your video. Thank you Dr all you do!

Nutrients like magnesium , Vitamin D & boron VC etc all help.
Iodine deficiency can be a key cause of eye floaters (studies have shown) .
Anxiety floaters are a type, as are allergy or infection & dry eye types.
Floaters or spider webs can be caused by blood vessels in eye breaking or detached retenal. See a eye doctor. Don't guess on what or how to fix, I know from experience.
My doctor told me there is nothing that can be done except laser surgery which then causes cataracts that then have to be removed by more surgery. So yeah, no.
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Floaters are always generated by the retina in the back of the eye. It is a extremely vascular organ that takes the light entering the eye and converting that into nerve impulses that the brain interpets as vision.

The floaters are a symptom of poor blood circulation - so are "flashes" where you see a quick little burst of light in your side vision when you quickly move your eyes from extreme glances to the right or left. Many of the capillaries in your retina are barely one red blood cell's width in diameter and if normal many cells carrying oxygen can get through one after the other. If that capillary is reduced in diameter then cells do not get through as the tissue needs so eventually the tiny bit of tissue dies and when light hits that area it is interpreted by the brain as a floater or burst of light.

Being symptom what your body is telling you is that you need to take steps to avoid that causes of poor blood circulation.
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How can I get rid of eye floaters?
Move your eyes -- this shifts the fluid around. Look up and down, that usually works better than side to side. If you have so many that they block your vision, your eye doctor may suggest surgery called a vitrectomy. He'll remove the vitreous and replace it with a salt solution.

I had an eye floater about 6 months ago. I saw this video and ordered some MSM drops. I made an appointment with my eye doctor and told him I ordered MSM. He laughed and said that I was scammed. He furthermore said that the eye floater will drop to the bottom of my eye and out of my field of vision in time. He advised that I not use the drops and said there is nothing topical that can take care of eye floaters or cataracts either. Going against my doctors advice, I took MSM drops daily. The floater never dropped to the bottom of my eye. It just gradually disappeared and now it's all gone.

One eye doctor claims 400mg of vitamin E (2 gel caps a day (same type as VA) cures floaters, and you tuber did that and took 4 months but maybe didnt cure it itself.
Comment from vitamin E guy vid - I found this video about 3 weeks ago and started doubling the vitamin E I normally took based on this video. Almost all of my tiny little floater specks are gone and the big black clump of string has shrunk down to a light brown strand that is getting less noticeable every day. I generally only notice it when I am reading a book now or if I am trying to find it.

Maybe floaters are caused by not enough sunlight, nutrients, sleep etc. & too much strain or stress.
The answer could be better food, lifestyle and hygiene. - ME

Floaters -- those spots, lines, or other shapes you see before your eyes -- arent a big deal most of the time. They come and go and are usually harmless, if annoying. But there are times when floaters could be a sign of a problem.

See your doctor if you have:

Floaters that dont go away
A sudden increase in floaters

The specialist will ask you questions about your current eye symptoms and medical history, and may check your eyes after giving you drops to dilate, meaning widen, your pupils. This allows the doctor to see inside your eyes, including the vitreous and retina.

The vitreous is the clear gel within the eye that gives the eyeball its round shape. If changes in this part of your eye cast shadows on your retina, you may see floaters.

Your doctor may also do more eye tests. For example, you may have an ultrasound exam of your eyes. If you have a retinal tear or detachment, your doctor may be able to repair it with special procedures or surgery.

Will I Need Treatment?
If you only have mild floaters without a retina problem, you probably wont need treatment. If you do, your doctor might use a special laser.

I got floaters and a PVD after i got LASIK. To those who are considering LASIK, stay away.

I got mine while I was stressing a lot.Things which I found helps: B6-12 vitamins will solve all stress stuff so make sure you get your B12 pills or injections to stop stressing and it should not happen again. Another thing which helps is PINHOLE glasses which somehow makes all floates so small that you can't even to see them

Commonly occur after trauma, physical or mental; ie. stress. Don't worry over them, but pay attention to what else you might see if u look.

oke, listen i suffer from eye floaters too. when you use tropicamide drops for your eyes your pupil becomes wider. there will be more light in your eye. some floaters will dissapear for a while.

Do eye floaters go away?
In most cases, eye floaters will go away after a few months, either because they have drifted out of view or because you no longer notice them.

How do you treat eye floaters?
There are two treatments for eye floaters. A surgeon can use a laser to break up the protein clumps in the jelly or they can remove the floaters with a form of keyhole surgery called vitrectomy. It is uncommon to need to treat floaters with surgery.

Vision Eye Institute has a number of highly experienced retinal surgeons who specialise in laser and surgical treatment of eye floaters.

I am seeing Dr. Johnson in Irvine, CA who uses a YAG laser to treat floaters. It's working for me. It may take several treatments, but it's a far safer procedure than the vitrectomy that the medical establishment offers, and then only when it's "really bad," a subjective assessment. I am seeing him next Monday for the third time. My improvement is 80% and I am hoping after Monday 90-95%%. Do not fall for all the scammers out there who are trying to sell you supplements. While supplements are not bad perse, they are not going to get rid of your floaters.

If floaters are severe and interfere with vision and dont go away after several months, you might need surgery to remove and replace the vitreous, though this is not common. The operation is called a vitrectomy. Floaters may also be treated with a laser.

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Red Veins in Your Eyes. ... Usually, if the whites of the eyes have red veins in them, it is due to fatigue, lack of sleep, viral infection or irritation. If obvious red blood vessels persist it could point to an underlying medical condition or infection.

Promote eye health by eating these foods:
Eat foods that are high in antioxidants like spinach, broccoli, kale, kiwi, and grapes. Eating antioxidants will protect your eyes.
Eat foods that are high in Vitamin C like oranges, grapefruits, strawberries, and green peppers. Eating Vitamin C will help you build up your immune system.
Eat foods that are high in Vitamin E like sunflower seeds, almonds, pecans and wheat germ. Eating Vitamin E will keep your eyes strong.

Sleep properly. Getting enough sleep will help stop floaters from forming. Keep these things in mind:
Try to sleep at least 8 hours a night.
Sleeping helps to keep your eyes healthy.
Realize that floaters may be more apparent if your eyes are blurry from not getting enough sleep.

Reduce stress. Practicing stress management techniques will help stop floaters from forming.[6] Prevent stress by doing one of the following:
Meditate
Yoga
Pilates
Tai Chi
Be positive.
Breathe deeply.

Comment : Take bilberry, beta carotene and vitamin C. Eliminate foods that are nutrient-poor, processed or that cause rapid fluctuations in blood glucose level.

Practitioners of traditional Chinese medicine report anecdotal evidence of the Chinese wolfberry effectively treating eye floaters

What causes sudden floaters in eyes?
As the vitreous shrinks, it becomes somewhat stringy, and the strands can cast tiny shadows on the retina. These are floaters. ... However, there are other, more serious causes of floaters, including infection, inflammation (uveitis), hemorrhaging, retinal tears, and injury to the eye.

Alternatives
Some consider eye floaters a problem related to connective tissue. The Connective Tissue Disorder Site suggests identifying areas of tension in the body that may contribute to eye floaters and performing trigger therapy. The site also suggests eating magnesium-rich foods, which promote relaxation, and avoiding foods such as coffee or activities that can lead to blood vessel constriction. Again, evidence is anecdotal and you should consult a doctor about any health conditions.

Hemp Oil - rich in omega 3s, LNA (Alppha Lynoic acid) rich in O3 aswell
Taurine (red meat rich in taurine)

Reduce Eye Strain
Proper rest for your eyes is essential for making sure that they stay healthy and recover from the daily stresses that we put on them. We are continually staring at digital screens (computers, phones, tablets, TVs and even our cars) and this extended strain can lead to extra stress on our eyes. Relaxing and resting your eyes will allow them to recover and remain healthy.

Better Eating
Additionally, you can add the following anti-inflammatory foods to your diet to help reduce your eye floaters:

tomatoes
olive oil
dark green and leafy vegetables
nuts
salmon, mackerel, or tuna (fatty fish)
strawberries
blueberries
cherries
oranges
Should you get good results following your anti-inflammatory diet and treatment, it is best to avoid certain foods that may reverse your efforts. Moreover, the following are foods that can cause inflammation:

deep fried foods
refined carbohydrates (white bread, pastries)
sugar-sweetened beverages (soda)
red meat
processed meat
margarine

Prevention
According to a website called Floaters in the Eye, foods rich in vitamin C such as oranges, lemons, peppers, broccoli and kiwi fruit may help to prevent floaters. They also recommend eating foods rich in zinc and copper, such as shellfish and nuts. Finally, because the vitreous humor is 99 percent water, and proper cell activity depends on adequate hydration, sufficient water intake may also assist with eye floater management.

Further Considerations
Most people experience eye floaters, particularly as they get older. Typically they do not represent a danger. Taking care of your body with regular exercise, proper hydration and a balanced diet, and limiting exposure to harmful substances and activities will increase your odds of getting and staying healthy. If you experience a sudden change in eye floater quantity, activity, or any other sudden change in vision, consult your doctor immediately.

To put things in perspective, almost everyone eventually experiences the signs of vitreous gel liquefaction, but very, very few (less than 1%) develop a retinal detachment. Nevertheless, at the first sign of vitreous floaters or flashes, you should have a complete eye examination. If that reveals that the vitreous is undergoing this expected liquefaction and separation from the retina, then you should restrict all vigorous physical activity for about one month to allow the gel to separate from the retina as gently as possible.

Assuming that the symptoms do not worsen in any way, then a dilated exam of the retinas is repeated after one month. Once the gel is completely separated from the retina, you are"home-free" the flashes stop, the retina is out of danger, and the floaters eventually dissolve, or are absorbed. Eye exams are then performed on an annual basis. It is important to be aware that with a retinal detachment, there appears to be a dark curtain being drawn across your vision. With separation of the vitreous gel, there is slight haziness of vision temporarily for a couple weeks, because the back surface of the gel has a"skim" on its surface much like cream that has been sitting out awhile. This"skim" dissolves very quickly, however, and the haze which it causes is much different than the dark curtain of detachment.

In summary, vitreous floaters are very common and usually do not indicate a serious problem. Floaters plus flashes indicate liquefaction of the vitreous gel. This eventually occurs to everyone and once it occurs in one eye, it usually follows in the other within a year. The incidence of serious complications is less than 1%. An eye exam immediately and again in one month, will help ensure that there has been no damage to the retina.
http://www.ocoeye.com/orange-county/flashes-and-floaters.htm

ophthalmologists tested the impact of a laser treatment called Yttrium-Aluminum Garnet laser vitreolysis on floaters by comparing it to a placebo treatment given to a control group. Although it has been tested before, the Boston study marked the first time that this kind of treatment has been put up against placebos.

Some 54% of participants in the treated group reported an improvement in vision, which contrasts with 9% of the placebo control group that also reported an improvement. The study included 52 volunteers in total, and they were tested over the course of six months.

Whats more is that no clinically relevant adverse events were identified in the test, which involves surgeons shooting at the floaters in a patients eye using a laser beam thats a mere six-thousandths of a millimeter wide. This process fragments floaters into smaller chunks.

The process is non-invasive and pain-free, and is already available to patients. With that being said, there is still much to be learned about the treatment, because it was only tested on a small amount of people.
Nevertheless, patients using the treatment have reported seeing a real improvement in their eyesight.
http://www.ba-bamail.com/content.aspx?emailid=26708

Hi My name is Omar, I live in New York. I have many eye floaters in both eyes. I am 42 and started seeing floaters at 39.I know it is a miserable thing to go through, but God is the created of the eye and he gave me a way to live with it. God knows how we feel, and knows our suffering and I know a solution will be out it's just a matter of time. At the same time our brains will forget about them just like our brains forget about the giant object in front of our eyes called our nose. God will also give you peace and I will donate very soon for your cause. I used to wear very dark sunglasses so I wouldn't see them. Two "threads" tangled to make what I call my "jumbo eye floater" in the middle of my vision in my left eye. Try not to be effected mentally because of this. You are still very young and can't waste life looking at them and feeling bad. Because if you know how small these things are, you don't have to waste your life paying attention to them. My eye doctor told me there are millions of people out there suffering from this and they go about their lives. They don't shed a tear because of these little things.
Yours truly,
Omar Hammad
This is my email: white.whale.1@hotmail.com

I noticed my floaters after a spike in my blood sugar over a close to 3 month period. In some cases I believe it's diet. So watch what you eat if the doctors say they don't know what's causing it. Keep blood sugar low and perhaps eat plenty of good fats like avocados, pumpkin seeds and almonds. You might also want to try a keto diet. I put this comment here to see if anyone else with high blood sugar or who eats a lot of carbs and sugar has noticed floaters in their eye. I think diet has plenty to do with floaters that have no direct cause.
+Darker Moss You are right! I have been having an increase when my blood sugar spiked and developed mild neuropathy, which i believe is causing an increase in my eye floaters, esp in the first couple hours i wake up. Green tea, walnuts, and seafood is very good as well...it's all diet.

I just saw my eye doctor a week ago and we talked about treatments. He and his colleague still think it's too risky. In the meantime I'm taking supplements in the form of lutein, billbery, blueberry, taurine , azaxanthin and serrapeptaise enzyme. So far my largest floater has been thinning out but still prominent. My other floaters are still there but were not that visible anyway. Next I'll be adding the milk thistle.

If your floaters are this bad, just get a vitrectomy. It's a rather safe procedure. Perhaps one day there will be a non surgical option, but for now, a vitrectomy works. I had my first in Nov 2015 and am having another one next week for my other eye. Fear of a vitrectomy made me live like a hermit for 3 years. It was a completely painless procedure and recovery was rapid.

Vitrectomy is not a safe procedure. There is a 3% risk of severe eye complications. You may end up with more floaters or a frill. Cataracts are pretty much inevitable too, or at least a very high risk of them. I don't wear glasses and the idea of switching to long and short distance glasses is horrible. Also, there was a user who posted on MumsNet some years ago about huge floaters she got not long after giving birth. She went for a FOV and posted on FloaterTalk confirming that she got an infection post op and is now blind in that eye. This poor woman now has an eye full of floaters and is blind in the other.

It's not worth the risk for me and it's irresponsible to tell people it's safe.

Every surgery has disasters, which is why it's so important to choose a good surgeon. There is no notable accelerated cataract formation in people under 50 following a vitrectomy. Even if there was, I would gladly trade floaters for cataracts. Everyone needs to decide for themselves whether they accept the risks. My only regret is waiting 3 years to get my vitrectomies done. Listening to the life this lady Jen is living, it's absurd to not go for vitrectomies. It's a highly successful procedure with very low rates of complications.

sithius99
@vitalsign0
I'm sure the woman I told you about listened to someone like you, and now she is blind in one eye. I spoke to a professional eye doctor and he informed me victrectomy is not worth the risk as it's a 3% chance of sight threatening complications and no offense I trust him more than you.

I could be like this woman and have this done then be blind in one eye and want to kill myself. No thanks.

Also, cataracts aren't worth trading for me to get rid of my floaters. I have 20/20 vision, needing glasses because I can no longer accommodate as I said would be horrible.

vitalsign0
Then the risks don't outweigh the benefits for you, don't get an FOV. Your floaters clearly aren't that bad. However for many people, the benefits DO outweigh the risks and they accept them.

Every single operation has risks. Even simple ones. My only issue is that people are dismissing FOV because it has "risks" while waiting for some magic cure that will be risk free. That's nonsensical thinking. Simple routine in office injections have risks. People have gotten infections and lost vision from simple in office injections.

My floaters were bad enough to where I didn't care if I went blind. Blindness would have been a relief from the daily torture of eye floaters.

sithius99
@vitalsign0
How many did you have? Mine are significantly bad. My black one is so mobile that I see it against a black wall, and I see it 24/7 even in a dim room up against a wall. It distorts light when it crosses my central line of vision. I also have a huge worm one that hangs in the center of my vision, which I see all the time outside even against dark things, and makes reading at work and on the computer incredibly hard as it bounces along on top of the words. I see dozens of floaters outside generally.

So trust me I do have severe floaters.

vitalsign0
I couldn't count the amount I had. I had really bad vitreous liquidation. I had floaters that looked 3D and would whip around in the center of my vision in both eyes. Had dark fuzzy balls, long crystal worms, large clumps tethered to a long piece of vitreous and would bounce in front of my vision. I could see them in darkness and with my eyes closed. The were literally making me dizzy. I couldn't ignore them.

Had my one week follow up today for the 2nd FOV and everything looks great. I lived like Jen is doing here in this video. Staying at home, wearing sunglasses indoors, not wanting to get out of bed. I finally got sick of it and refused to live like that anymore. I'm 39 now, they got really bad when I was 35 so I've lived over 3 years in mnute by minute torture. I was willing to risk it.

If you don't feel comfortable I would never pressure anyone to get an operation. All I can say is FOV gave me my life back and my only regret is waiting three years.

sithius99
@vitalsign0
I'm happy for you vitalsign, and in your situation I would do the same. I won't entirely rule out a vitrectomy, indeed in a year from now I may go ahead and get one (I am having a bad day today particularly at work, seeing so many like you describe). It's awful that yours were so dense you saw them with your eyes shut in the dark. Do you also get the entoptic blue field phenomenon quite easily? Reading cases like yours makes me think that the problem is in our brain in respect of how we filter and process light and objects... which maybe in your case was compounded by faster than normal vitreous degeneration.

Is your vision crystal clear now?



vitalsign0
I do have the blue field phenomenon. I notice it more since the vitrectomy. I'm highly myopic. - 11 and - 9, that made the floaters very noticeable. If you consider a vitrectomy, I highly recommend my doctor in Clearwater FL. Dr Steven Cohen. I know 3 other people who have used him and we all have had great results.

I'm happy for you vitalsign, and in your situation I would do the same. I won't entirely rule out a vitrectomy, indeed in a year from now I may go ahead and get one (I am having a bad day today particularly at work, seeing so many like you describe). It's awful that yours were so dense you saw them with your eyes shut in the dark. Do you also get the entoptic blue field phenomenon quite easily? Reading cases like yours makes me think that the problem is in our brain in respect of how we filter and process light and objects... which maybe in your case was compounded by faster than normal vitreous degeneration.
Is your vision crystal clear now?

Just to let you know I've now decided to go for one. Using a well respect surgeon in the UK. How long does it generally take to recover? I can only really take 2 weeks off work in one go. Chances in your opinion of complications?

sithius99 Dr. Patel? You'll be fine. Although not perfect, I'm glad I got both of mine.

@vitalsign0
No, I decided not to go with Dr Patel after his secretary Saffy ignored my e-mail and reading many complaints about his post-op care on Floater Talk. I don't doubt he is excellent and I'm glad things worked out for you, but I've heard he uses a somewhat aggressive technique hence the number of posters on Floater Talk with complications, like Echops who went blind from it.

What are your complications? Are all the floaters gone? I'm concerned that as I only have 1 extremely bothersome floater in my left eye (that I see in any lighting condition and is large and dark) that it is microscopic and right by the retina, and that the FOV won't get the tiny pocket of liquefied vitreous containing it by the retina, as I hear not all the vitreous is removed? It's frustrating that only one floater is bothering me in each eye (well 2 in my right, 1 in the left). Of course I have many I see on white paper and the computer, but I can live with them and 'see through them' as so many recommend, but it's impossible to ignore the huge translucent worm fixed in the middle of my right eye and the large circular black clump swaying all over my vision in my left eye.

vitalsign0
sithius99 I don't really have any complications. There is some left over vitreous skirting that some have described as "frill". It's in the anterior vitreous and my doctor seems to think it may retract. It's in my peripheral vision and while annoying at times, nowhere near as bad as floaters

sithius99
@vitalsign0
What exactly does a frill look like? I mean I have long wisps (like a long line) of what I assume are degraded vitreous that run across my entire vision when I look left, right, up or down. I'd be curious to know how a frill looks, as long as it is nowhere near as annoying or drifting as a floater that's fine
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I have floaters since young, They appear as round cells, single or jointed in a line. I just move my eyeballs and they float away in the opposite direction.
Most of the time I am not aware of the floaters. Yea, I have lived with them.
I am now older, in my 60s, and the floaters are always there. They are now a floating glob that blurs my vision, I can move them away also, and occasionally I don't notice them. But they are an annoyance, during reading, and on bright sunny days.
I am searching for cures, natural cures, eye exercises.
But so far none works. Taking veges rich in zeaxanthin, lutin, (spinach, brocoli, the lot) carotene (carrots, coloured veges), honey+ACV+aloe vera+walnut concoction etc. Floaters still there. Although the eye exercises did better my vision a little.
I am searching for Cholerella and Taurine.
I am also exploring Eyebright supplements. Checking the prices and reviews. I am quite skeptical of supplements as recently there was a report that some supplements don't have what they're suppose to contain.
The search continues and was what brought me here.
I hope I can report a cure.
The only hope I have at present, is that floaters don't last long, about six months, then they sink out of the way or they just disappear. And if no new floaters form, well, that a cure isn't it. But new ones inevitably appear. sigh! That's why don't have laser or surgical treatment, they'll recur.
Eat healthy, to prevent macular degeneration, that the best natural eye treatment I know at present.

Have had pink eye and used 10ppm sovereign silver. I used one drop every few hours. Gone in just over a day. Be careful of the silver you use! I have also used the castor oil (and yes, certified and hexane free!) and enjoyed the same success with floaters and the 'cobweb-like' thingys. I have had a teeny tiny beginnings of a cataract that grew somewhat at its beginning but after stopping all commercial oils and fats and adding in organic flax oil, it has not grown at all in many years. The last time a few months ago my eye doctor didn't even mention it! I also started about a year ago having a cup of organic blueberries (fresh or frozen) at least once a day along with other organic berries. I was astounded when my eye doctor just told me my distance eyesight had improved five steps! First time ever in 55 years of wearing glasses. (I've worn them since I was 6). Doctor said it was not 'age related' as my up-close vision is perfect. Blueberries have always been for the eyes. Coupled with the natural castor oil treatment its a beautiful thing! Thank you for sharing your success as well.
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Eye floaters are actually much more common than you think 18. It isn't just about diabetic retinopathy, it is a natural result of aging. Cells can clump together and float around and there is no real mechanism for "cleaning." Many people find that they clear up on their own.

I had an increase in floaters too at one point and then started having little sparkly flashes in the corner of my vision. I went to the ophthalmologist and he diagnosed it as I think vitreous detachment, I'd have to look it up it was a couple years ago. It wasn't diabetes related, but natural aging though you seem too young for that. He said it was no big deal but should be checked on to make sure it didn't develop into something else that was more serious (I forget what). We followed up six months later and it was better. The symptoms have gone away completely now and my last ophthalmologist visit he saw no sign of it.
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Eating food with lots of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turmeric helps to prevent/remove the offending protein, as well as helping to prevent Alzheimers, certain cancers, and many other problems. There is actual research which I can't be bothered to look for atm (my tea is ready sorry smile

Also Bilberry and very dark purple foods like these
Deep Purple carrots if you have a juicer,
or have it grated in salads, or cooked
(not in with a curry though colours mix and makes it look deceased/decomposing).

Good luck!

Light read'n:
Turmeric:
http://www.articlesbase.com/alternative-...ts-5224543.html
Dark Purple Carrots:
http://www.usq.edu.au/research/usq/brown
http://www.agric.wa.gov.au/PC_94956.html?s=1001
http://www.haydnallbutt.com.au/2011/04/11/the-return-of-the-purple-carrot/
http://www.rawfish.com.au/are-purple-carrots-natures-ancient-superfood/
http://www.theage.com.au/national/purple-carrots-the-next-superfood-20100807-11phz.html
http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=1066309
http://www.7perth.com.au/view/today-tonight-articles/today-tonight-purple-carrots/
http://www.abc.net.au/local/recipes/2012/06/07/3520661.htm
http://www.google.com/search?q="purple carrot"+recipes
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Natural remedies and homeopathic treatments
While theres conflicting evidence, some do say that there are ways to get rid of eye floaters without medical intervention.

Massaging your temples or eye exercises: by generating heat you can help remedy the eye floaters in your eyes. Similarly, eye exercises, like rotating your eyes around in circles. Doing so may help stave off some stubborn floaters.
Cutting back on screen time: its been said that screen time (overusing your smartphone or computer, for example) might contribute to an increase in eye floaters.
Eating anti-oxidant rich foods: Foods high in anti-oxidants are said to combat free radical damage (free radicals are atoms and molecules that can cause damage to parts of cells like proteins, DNA, and cell membranes). Its said that by eating a diet rich in foods like blueberries, kale, oranges, or strawberries you can help remedy eye floaters.
And taurine-rich foods, too: Foods like meat and seafood contain something called taurine (an amino acid found in animal tissue). Whether you take it in supplement-form or consume it with taurine-dense food, this nutrient may help with your eye floaters. Taurine is often found in energy drinksbut many health professionals say that this isnt the best way to get taurine, as these types of drinks arent the healthiest option.
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Sarcoidosis: This inflammatory disease can affect many organs, including our eyes. Sarcoidosis triggers heightened immunity, which then damages the bodys tissue. So, if sarcoidosis is present, it can target the eyes, showing up in different ways such as dry eyes, burning, blurry vision, or eye floaters.

Diabetic retinopathy: New floaters found in the eye can be related to either a retinal detachment but may also be symptoms of a condition called diabetic retinopathy.
Diabetic retinopathy is one of the most common complications of diabetes. It can develop in people with both type 1 and type 2 diabetes, and usually affects both eyes. People with retinopathy have damaged blood vessels in their retina - the light-sensitive layer at the back of the eyes.
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Hello!
I'm 27, and have eye floaters since the age of 20. With time, I learned to get used to them, but sice some weeks, they begin to increase and to become much more apparent...
My question is the following: is it possible that this increase is due to protein supplements? Some months ago, I began to take these protein supplements in order to gain muscle mass for working out / bodybuilding.
If yes, will these additional floaters disappear with time? Should I stop taking these supplements?
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Go to Walmart Pharmcay or Walgreens and buy :"Milk Thistle" follow label directions. The floaters will go away in less than a week.
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PERSONAL EXPERIENCE - NO NEED FOR SURGERY
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I am now 70 years old and I no longer have FLOATERS...but I did at age 55 and they were very serious, extensive and annoying. I kept swatting what I thought were FLIES all around me.

I went to my doctor, and as all western doctors are apt to say, he told me " it is THE natural aging process and there is nothing you can do about it and that there was no treatment ."

I picked one book off the shelf and it fell to the floor in an open position. I was shocked when I turned it over and it was opened to a page on FLOATERS !!!....DIVINE INTERVENTION. It had notations and underlining, so obviously my father in law must have been studying this issue as well.

Of course the Chinese medical profession did have a diagnosis and a cause which they attributed to a weak liver function and they concluded that it was associated with an inadequate diet of proteins. This made sense to me because it seemed like the western explanation for floaters was a MACULAR DEGENERATION and hearing that not eating enough protein or perhaps the RIGHT proteins made sense.

After some superficial research to determine the possibly best source of quality proteins, I started eating EGGS every morning, despite the bullshit cholesterol advice and also SARDINES...an excellent quality source of proteins and many other nutrients..

The results were dramatic and very fast. My floaters completely disappeared after only a few weeks and have NEVER come back.

Admittedly, this is all very non scientific and very ' anecdotal " but in the words of Dr. Joe Schwartz, a McGill chemistry professor and a P.H.D.; " ALL REAL SCIENCE STARTS WITH ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE ". He is a staunch advocate against pseudo science but in several debates with him I convinced even him to throw me a bone and accept this concept of the value of anecdotal evidence and he then coined this phrase in one of his articles.

I am a former trial lawyer of thirty years and an amateur medical researcher. I am not satisfied with the state of affairs in the mainstream medical community because of the enormous extent of conflicts of interest, complacency and outright carelessness so I look for ALTERNATIVE medicines which have some sort of at least quasi scientific or anecdotal EVIDENCE of their effectiveness...and try to promote for their proper investigation according to the standard scientific model...double blind studies and the whole spiel.

CONCLUSION - YOU CAN TREAT FLOATERS
Getting rid of FLOATERS seems to be possible with a better diet rich in QUALITY proteins like those in EGGS and the type of OMEGA 3 and Omega 6 found in SARDINES and other sources. TRY IT AND SEE IF YOU LIKE IT
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Re: Laser treatment a reply to a sceptic :
if the patient has experienced a PVD the resultant Weiss ring is quite easy to ablate. It all depends upon the distance of the floater from the retina and the lens. Weiss rings are ideal as they are mostly situated and a safe location and absorb laser energy quite well and are disrupted upwards of 95%. The Ellex Q laser is designed specifically for floater targeting and has come a very long way from the early configurations of this equipment and associated lenses first introduced in the 1980s. As for "symptomatic" relief, you seem to be contradicting yourself. Relief is the aim, that is achieved through the reduction of the collagen strands and the resultant shadow they cast on the retina which is what creates the bothersome symptoms to begin with. For those who suffer functional visual decline,, a couple of grand is worth the effort.

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By Slider
Hey everyone.

I'm too afraid to do a vitrectomy, so I went after vitreolysis.

In short:

Big floaters are easy to get "vaporized" and removed, small ones take noticeably more time.

My doctor uses certain technic that changes position of floaters, moves them away from retina or crystalline lens to have a clear shot at them, works most of the time.

Already had like 60-70 procedures. No side affects for over than 1.5 year.

Removed 90% of what I had in the begining.

I live in Canada, in Toronto by the way. So if you live nearby and would like to ask me some questions in person, go ahead )

Skype is also an option.
I'm fine, and my vision is fine. Can't complain. My floaters are 90% gone. Had a small degeneration progression once, but nothing since then.

I wouldn't say it's expensive in comparison to western and european prices. You could have a bunch of sessions for the price of one in the west.
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/floatertalk/curing-eye-floaters-in-russia-t6720.html
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My story is as follows
I developed floaters when I was 15. They probably would have been considered comparitively mild by some standards here. A number of dark blobs in each eye and a strand or two in the periphery. However they were intensely annoying to me. I could think of virtually nothing else for 2 years. I eventually went to Moorfields Eye Hospital in London where a doctor had me in and out in 5 minutes with a diagnosis of floaters. That was the first time I had ever heard of the term. I suffered on for a few years. Sometime in my very late teens or early 20s the floaters disappeared from my consciousness. I literally did not see anything like a floater until July this year.I am now 50. How they recurred is strange. I was browsing youtube for something or other when I saw a 'related' video on YAG treatment of floaters. From that day I became aware of the original floaters along with a large number of dark strands, dark brownish masses etc. Now I do not believe these floaters suddenly coalesced in both my eyes in the day following my viewing of the video. I believe they had been there probably for quite some time but my mind or eyes had screened them out. The reason I consider this a positive story is that for thirty years I had perfectly clear sight after having floaters in my teens. There may be a downside to my story in that there was no internet when I was 20 - floaters were never discussed so it was easy to forget them. What happened in July this year 'broke the spell'. It may be that constant seeking after information on floaters may prevent the mind from effectively screening them out. Whatever, my story shows that given time the mind can screen out even quite severe floaters. I would counsel people newly diagnosed with the condition to not rush in to FOV or laser - give it at least a year or two. I know this will be difficult but the body and mind have powerful healing mechanisms. Good Luck!
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I'm gonna go with the short version here, since if you're here you're probably going through something similar to what i was. I had a bunch of really dark floaters in the center of my left eye, and after eight years and way too many doctors they were making my life hell.

I knew a vitrectomy was theoretically a solution to the problem, but all the doctors had said with absolute certainty that there was no way i would find a surgeon willing to do the procedure on me (i'm 16). Then i went to one more specialist, Dr Randy Wong, in Washington DC, and he simply said he could help. This seemed weird since it was so different from everything else i'd heard. But i made an appointment for an FOV (floater only vitrectomy). In about a month i went in, had the 20 minute procedure, and after a week when my vision was back to normal, i could tell the floaters were absolutely gone.

This can be a seriously life-changing surgery, and after a few months, i can personally say that i've noticed no side effects. Dr. Wong has done the surgery thousands of times too.

I'm starting to notice this sounds a bit like spam, but if you're suffering from floaters, just go ahead and google him, and you'll see its not. (links to his website at the end of the post)

The risks for FOV's are much much smaller than most doctors are aware. The way i understand it, this is because the developments that make it so safe are very recent, and most doctors dont bother to keep up to date on that.
http://www.retinaeyedoctor.com/2011/09/ ... -floaters/http://www.retinaeyedoctor.com/floaters/

I an 3 days out of my procedure and everything is great so far. I had terrible floaters in my right eye for 3 years and tried everything except surgery. Thanks to this board i went to Dr Wong since I live 20 mins from his office. And wow what a great Doctor. I couldnt have asked for a better guy who put me at ease and did a great job. For me cataracts are much less of a worry then floaters as cataracts surgery is no worse then what I went through. Even though my vision is still blurry there is huge weight of my shoulders and I honestly havnt been this joyfully happy in years. Trust me I put off surgery for three years and had high anxiety about the surgery and i think it may have been a life changing decision. No more hiding in my dark room with the tv on the lowest brightness hiding in fear.


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Serrapptase cures eye floaters. You must work for an ophthalmologist. They only know how to cut the problem out. Not healing from within.
What is Serrapeptase used for?
Serratiopeptidase (EC No 3.4.24.40) has a long history in medicine and is widely used to combat various kinds of inflammation and inflammatory disorders [41]. Serratiopeptidase or serrapeptase is a protein (proteolytic) enzyme isolated from the non-pathogenic enterobacteria Serratia E15 found in silkworms.
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Two things I can think of.

1. Serratiopeptidase, or serrapeptase, the silkworm enzyme. Those on sale here
are 5 mg tablets, or 20,000 iu. It was developed by Takeda and marketed as Danzen.

2. N-acetylcarnosine, or NAC, eye drops.

Mostly anectdoctal reports, but serrapeptase has an extremely impressive reputation.

Serrapeptase has long been used by the late Dr Hans Nieper, advocated by the
Life Extension Foundation for this purpose and currently used discreetly by many
nutrition-oriented doctors in the US in fact, for dissolving atherosclerotic plaques
in the heart arteries at doses of 6 to 15 tablets (5 mg) daily.

" As I was taking Serrapeptase for some cysts at the time, I increased the dose
to 160 000 units, hoping it would dissolve the floater. To my amazement, within two
weeks after the accident the floater paled into a completely transparent, almost
invisible structure. "

http://www.iherb.com/product-reviews/Docto...12714/?p=4&sr=5
N-acetylcarnosine eye drops.
http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/7525-...s-eye-floaters/
"The eye drops are helping. I have floaters but not now I can't find them.
They disappeared."
http://www.smart-drugs.com/Can-C-eyedrops-testimonials.htm
http://www.worldhealth.net/news/senile_cat...ylcarnosine_ey/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20408504/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16274259

You could buy some serratiopeptidase
from the pharmacy - Danzen, generics - and take two twice daily
for a start.
One 5 mg tab = 20,000 iu, so four tabs = 80,000 iu.
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As people mentioned above, use NAC eyedrops to control it. Can supplement with supplemnts like lutein + zeaxanthin/astaxanthin (stronger than lutein + zeaxanthin), fish oil/grape seed to strengthen health of the eye.
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Vistrectomy - only for severe cases related to eye health deterioation etc.
Vitrectomy doesn't always remove eye floaters completely. New floaters can still form afterward, especially if the surgery itself causes bleeding and retinal tears.
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I was interested in younger patients who had undergone a Vitrectomy for complications. I found an interesting study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19211601
Abstract: This is a retrospective study of 56 eyes of 49 children undergoing vitrectomy with 25-gauge instrumentation. There were no cases of endophthalmitis, wound leaks or hypotony requiring treatment. A modified approach in which the conjunctiva and sclera is sutured was used for young babies requiring a pars plicata approach.

OBJECTIVE:To evaluate the feasibility and safety of 25-gauge vitrectomy for various vitreoretinal indications in the paediatric population.

METHODS:Consecutive patients aged 18 years or less undergoing vitrectomy for various vitreoretinal indications over a 5-year period were studied retrospectively. Two different surgical techniques were used: a modified 25-gauge approach in which the sclerotomies and conjunctiva were sutured as described previously for most children under the age of 1 year, and a transconjunctival 25-gauge approach for older children.
56 eyes in 49 children (16 girls and 33 boys) were included.
CONCLUSIONS:25-gauge vitreoretinal techniques can be used in various paediatric vitreoretinal conditions and facilitate easy access to small spaces in the paediatric eye. To avoid postoperative hypotony, a modified technique is recommended for younger babies in which the conjunctiva and sclera is sutured.

So it looks like these young patients, who had more than floaters going on in their eyes, underwent vitrectomy with little complications overall! Just gave me a bit of hope and I felt like sharing!

Comment- Vitrectomy is safe... it has risks (serious) but with low rate complication less than 2% so this is very telling smile I think the next challenge of the vitrectomy is the ability of removing all anterior vitreous without compromising your natural lens

In my opinion, the next challenge is (or should be...) a means of preventing oxidative stress to the lens and the trabecular meshwork following vitrectomy, as these factors are probably the cause of post-vitrectomy cataract and late-onset glaucoma, respectively.

Possible future solutions could be some sort of vitreous substitute or a powerful antioxidant drug (but not the frauds marketed on fishy web sites). Unfortunately, the experimental antioxidant OT-551 that was proposed for this purpose seems to have turned out not to work as expected.
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yeah dude, you dont need vitreolysis
how old are you? if you are in 20-40 age group
then the floaters is in macula region (closest to retina) and it is miniscule
any miss laser shot will burn your retina, a burn retina its like a black spot that you get after staring at the sun and its permanent
vitreolysis is reserved for old man with weiss ring floaters
why? because its suspended in the middle of the eye and its gigantic
well if you think i bullshit, ask your eye doctor
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"It would be interesting to be to know approximately how many laser shots (and at what energy setting in mJ) is being delivered. This procedure is not standardized. The doctor could be using homeopathically LOW ENERGY settings so as not to make much of an impact on your floaters.
Just some thoughts." Dr James Johnson.


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I find that my floaters get noticeably worse when I take vitamin C. Without fail, the day after taking a capsule my floater is in my central vision way more than usual. It's weird. I've gone off and on the C a few times to experiment. Never fails...
I do know that vitamin C lowers your levels of hyaluronic acid, and a study once argued that C megadoses are one of the reasons so many young people get floaters when their vitreous should be in better shape.

So I'll stick with my HA and avoid C supplements. I'll just get it through food.
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I've just started juicing a lot so I've cut my meals down daily and throwing in some juices all fruit and veg also started drinking green tea daily to intake a lot of anti oxidants I've also changed my training from heavy weightlifting to circuit training which I have done for the past 5 years which ain't changed my floaters in the past but now they have changed for the worst I don't want to chance the heavy lifting
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I have been suffering from floaters for about 6 months now. I first noticed them when I had a large floater emerge from the right side of my right eye. Over the next few days I noticed a lot of smaller floaters (perhaps they already existed and the large floater drew my attention to them). Anyway, as I expect everyone here has done, I recently decided to research into supplements that could help the situation. For the last month I have been taking the following supplements:

Bilberry Capsules
Ginkgo Biloba
Vitamin C tablets
Cod liver oil capsules
Zinc tablets

I have been taking twice the recommended dose of each daily (I do not recommend this of course) 1 lot in the morning, 1 lot at night. In the last few days I have noticed some very positive results. My floaters appear to be disappearing (as if they are evaporating). Black spots are starting to shrink and turn transparent. I also had a large nest of stringy floaters in my left eye which has broken down by about 50% now.
I don't normally post on forums, but I am extremely please with my results so far!
I have also been drinking about 4 pints of water per day, stopped drinking tea/coffee and switched to green tea.
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I suspect he is just lucky. I am taking the supplements he has listed but am seeing no improvement, but it has only been a week or so. I will double my dosage if I see no improvement in 3 weeks time. It gives me hope that somebody saw improvement after 6 months, as I have had mine for 6.5 months and it is really annoying me, as I see the large black one all the damn time, even at night.
Bumping this, because I'm starting to notice that Vitamin A (5000IU daily) seems to be making my eye floaters much more noticeable.

Anyone else have a negative experience with Vitamin A?
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to add to the conversation, I don't think the effect of the bilberry pills is a placebo effect. I literally counted the difference in floaters from one week to the next.

I'm gonna start using the original bilberry pills, continue doing eye exercises daily, go on a bit of a diet (I'm diabetic so that certainly doesn't help the dam floaters), make sure I get 8 hours of sleep each night, drink at least 8 glasses of water a day. You need to have a routine and do it for 2 weeks to a month to start to see results.
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I like Natural Factors. I just started taking Lutein too, as the amazon reviewers claim they help with floaters too. I will keep you guys updated, but based on the amount of positive reviews of Bilberry and Lutein, I'm very hopeful.

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absolutely no effect from bilberry. I still take two a day though with my evening meal just in case.
Same here, absolutely no effect from bilberry. I still take two a day though with my evening meal just in case.
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Considering a drug induced my floaters, I believe a drug, vitamin or herb may be able to get rid of them, whether it be by readjusting my visual cortext to filter them out, or even breaking the clumps up.
It is worth a try.
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Do floaters in the eye ever go away?
Floaters caused by loose cells, for example, are usually not that bothersome and often go away on their own in a few weeks or months. The floaters that look like wispy threads tend to be more visible, and in most cases they will also go away with time. ... Most floaters are caused by a posterior vitreous detachment.
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basically sit down and think about your goal in life...
what is it that you want to accomplish in life
the reason? well you cant fight fear and anxiety with more fear and anxiety
but with courage and hope. basically something to focus on during bad day to stop thinking about floaters
the ugly truth is we wont live forever.. you seriously want to spend those time thinking about some natural imperfection?
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Having FOV was the best thing I could have done. It gave me my life back. Waiting for a miracle is a waste of time especially if we are talking years and years of suffering. I talk to new sufferers all the time that PM for information and ask questions about FOV.
This is part of the reason why I pop by the forums and then I see BS threads that say avoid FOV and wait because your eyes will magically fix themselves...
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A person who induces PDV to FOV means that is self-mutilation. The vitreous is an important part of the eye care not to happen retinal detachment, but when the person already has PDV is a viable surgery
Each case is different what I mean is that the patient must assess whether their vitreous is degenerating enough to make a surgery because the saline substance that doctors inject does not replace the posterior vitreous at the same level the chances of a person who has PVD develop a retinal detachment is much higher.
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In my opinion it depends on the severity and cause of the floaters. I got mine from a drug, and have 3 extremely bothersome ones I see in all lighting conditions (1 can be seen in very dim rooms). However, as mine resulted from an unnatural cause and as it has only been 7 months I feel it only rational to wait a year or two and then reassess the situation. On the other hand, should someone obtain floaters through natural accelerated degeneration of the vitreous or the way their brain processes and filters stimuli then absolutely I would say they should consider FOV, depending on how numerous and how severe their floaters are. I would not recommend FOV lightly given I have read far too many stories about those losing part of their vision, if not all of it, and cataracts occur in the majority of cases too. You are gambling with your eyesight when you commit to an FOV, it's not like some surgery on your body where you can usually have another go if things go wrong. There are no replacement eyes...

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I have had detached retinas in both eyes. I have floaters now in both eyes due to the detached retinas. No amount of good food, good vitamins nor eye drops are going to make these floaters go away.

The doctor fixed my retinas with many laser surgeries, kind of like welding the retina back on to the eye, and also I had to have a "balloon" slammed on to the back of my eye with a drain coming out for a week. No fun. But, I only lost a bit of my vision, about 1/3, in one eye. I will gladly deal with "swatting bugs" all day compared to permantly losing my vision!

You can get floaters and flashing before a detached retinas. They are warning signs. Be aware of it! It is good you went to a specialist!


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