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Re: XTR or PU/Poly For Simi Step Up?l [Re: brycor564] #2943693
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I'm not that heavy (145lbs) and I mainly surf oside which doesnt get too big very often and I buckled a 8.C with the blue stringer right down the middle. It was an older 8.C from maybe 3 years ago, but still.
I always get 8.0 from now on. They are still super light and strong. I dropped my board the other day and I was like "$hit... thats a trip to the repair shop for sure" and the board just had some scratches and small spider cracks. Nothing crazy at all and i was super surprised. I have parallel carbon so I think that helps keep it more light weight. shaka


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Re: XTR or PU/Poly For Simi Step Up?l [Re: brycor564] #2944080
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So what it sounds like and correct me if i'm wrong, in relation to dampness / chatter level: 8.C Team will be dampest and 8.0 will be the least damp? I'm only asking about XTR, not comparing to any other build.

Re: XTR or PU/Poly For Simi Step Up?l [Re: brycor564] #2944083
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I don't know what waves the original poster intends this step up for but in my region waves that call for a step up usually involve stiff offshore winds, wetsuits and heavy takeoffs. That being said a well glassed PU that has some weight to it is the way to go around here


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Re: XTR or PU/Poly For Simi Step Up?l [Re: brycor564] #2944084
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What’s a “simi stepup”?

Is this for surfing in Simi Valley?


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Re: XTR or PU/Poly For Simi Step Up?l [Re: brycor564] #2944100
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Matt Biolos describes the Retro Ripper as a utility / simi step up. It's a board in between a HPSB and a step up. The type of waves I intend to use this type of board will be Gulf of Mexico and East coast Tropical Storm / Hurricane swells. HH to about DOH.

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This is from the Lost website:

The RETRO RIPPER is a scaled down version of the Retro gun, with a wider, more playful, winged, round pin tail. Designed as an everyday utility board to semi-step up. A great travel board, that can handle some size, and a wide variety of conditions. The target surfer for this board is once again the guy who tends to rides wider, thicker, high volume, relaxed rocker boards in small, daily surf…and struggles to find a suitable board for bigger, better, or more challenging days. Very well suited for solid East Coast hurricane and winter swells, crowded head high beach breaks, long winding points and really excels in strong offshore winds, or choppy, windy conditions.

Similar features to the RetroGun:

• Flat, stable deck with full, steep, low apex rails = Paddle power and edge control.

• Low entry rocker with accelerated tail rocker. Fast out the gate, yet turns tight in the pocket.

• Rolled vee in nose, flat under front foot, and a deep double concave vee cutting through the tail rocker. Slice though windchop and allow the higher volume to sit low in the water.

• Winged round pin tail = A release point to keep the board loose. It quickens up turns in moderate surf, without being detrimental in larger waves.

The overall look, feel and vibe is once again very reminiscent of boards I built for myself (and a few brave friends) in the ‘80’s, for surfing in better days from Trestles to Salt Creek, and down to Mexico. A very user-friendly board, suited for surfers looking for a fast, fun, easy to paddle, alternative, that really works best when most hybrids are reaching their effective wave size limits. Adding to the fun, the RetroRipper comes standard with era specific, vintage ‘80’s “Mayhem”, …Lost spiral and rail logos.

Re: XTR or PU/Poly For Simi Step Up?l [Re: brycor564] #2944168
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I’ll be honest, this thread kinda made me want an XTR less, not more.

Re: XTR or PU/Poly For Simi Step Up?l [Re: GromsDad] #2944194
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Originally Posted by GromsDad
I don't know what waves the original poster intends this step up for but in my region waves that call for a step up usually involve stiff offshore winds, wetsuits and heavy takeoffs. That being said a well glassed PU that has some weight to it is the way to go around here


I have a ghost in stringered xtr that is about the same weight as my PU's. Been riding since last summer when I was still out west, then back to the East coast in time for hurricane season... It's been the absolute best board I've owned in years for our stiff offshore nor'easters.

Re: XTR or PU/Poly For Simi Step Up?l [Re: sd_101] #2944296
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Originally Posted by sd_101
I’ll be honest, this thread kinda made me want an XTR less, not more.



My sentiments exactly

Re: XTR or PU/Poly For Simi Step Up?l [Re: brycor564] #2944300
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HH to about DOH.


So a regular short board?


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Re: XTR or PU/Poly For Simi Step Up?l [Re: brycor564] #2944490
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Originally Posted by brycor564
I know the XTR will be more durable. What other qualities would an XTR win over for a simi step up? I looking at just the 8.0 with the wood stringer. How would that compare, in feel, to a 4+4 deck 4 bottom PU poly construction?


I've had my two SL-CKs (Hydronaut and Hydroshort) at pumping surf in Sumatra for the last two weeks. Other people's boards were getting creased and snapped regularly, but those two stood up to the test. Really showed me how strong Javier's boards are. Definitely don't need to only rely on a wooden stringer for strength.


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Re: XTR or PU/Poly For Simi Step Up?l [Re: brycor564] #2944683
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I've been riding an 8c SL-CK phantom in pumping ocean beach and this week at HTs in Indo and I have zero fear whatsoever about it being eaier to snap than a PU board with a stringer. In fact, I stripped the wax off today and even though I've been riding this board for a while, literally ZERO pressure dents. My PU radius that's maybe on it's 6th session already has a solid toe well. If you're going XTR spend the extra bucks and get one of SL-CK constructions. The construction feels amazing and has a really really nice flex pattern.

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Plus, wood stringers can be inconsistent with hard and soft spots.

If you take the wood stringer out and replace it with high density foam or carbon, you can potentially reduce some variability from board to board.


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Got absolutely tossed, sent over the falls in the lip on one of my last waves of my second session yesterday. It was an absolute standout set wave. I made such solid contact with my board straight to my left glute while heading for the bottom after getting sucked back over that it’s all swollen and a bit of a pain to walk today. I was certain my board was going to be in 2 peices when I surfaced.
...not a single mark on it! I was riding XTR sl-ck.

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Originally Posted by brycor564
I’m 160 as well. If I go poly I can get the board I want OTR. I’m looking at the lost Retro Ripper btw. Any thoughts on the glassing they use? Is it durable? I have a Flying Manta in the wired tech and really like it so I was wanting some insight from XTR users. Thanks for the replies so far.


Is the retro ripper really meant to be a step up? I suppose any model can be stretched to be one but that seems like an interesting choice.

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