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Foil Session Logs #2939674
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Here's a spot where you can brag about your recent sessions. Talk some story, relieve the pressure in your head, so you don't bore your non-foil friends and family quite so badly. It doesn't have to be profound -- after all, we're all semi-bored, wasting time playing on the interweb, so we may as well tell some like-minded folks how your day went. Post a pic if you got one or a video, it's all good.

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I'll start things off: arrived yesterday to junky low tide waves, unsure if it's worth the bother or maybe keep driving. Decided to just suit up and paddle out, then the sets starting piling in. Long interval, so it's flat in between the 5-10 minute action flurries. Low tide was a bit pitchy, hard to make the drops, but as the water filled in it got that perfect smooth takeoff, just enough to get you moving then backs off to a long unbreaking wall ... basically unsurfable but a perfect foil wave. Sunday funday.

Here's a photo of a small one ... worthy because my buddy, who is just on the verge of rocking the surf foil, dropped in for the tail end. Apologies for I am the sweeper.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bv-0AiXh_f5/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

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At about 20 waves in, I finally got some long rides where I felt I could control the lift and not breach or kickflip. Going straight down the line has never felt so satisfying.

Best part was passing bumpy lowers packed w 30 guys on my way to surfing w nobody else out.


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Originally Posted by ghostshaper
Going straight down the line has never felt so satisfying.
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Amen to that!!

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Originally Posted by ghostshaper
Best part was passing bumpy lowers packed w 30 guys on my way to surfing w nobody else out.


I like this part too. I've been surfing my regular spot and there will be 30 guys out in the morning, then they all get out when low tide rolls around and I'm out there by myself on a foil. So nice.

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I am visiting my mother in Puerto Escondido. As I am too weak/lame/old/scared to chase the tubes at zicatela and too over it to fight the crowd at La Punta, I decided to use my week to tackle surf foil. So far, about 100 sessions on sup foil, time to get on the prone program.

Not really a great location for this project. The only wave that works is Carrizalillo. First couple sessions with 15" mast and H2 wing. Once up on foil, it felt natural, the challenge is in riding a shortboard again, as I am embarrassed to say I mostly sup and longboard for the past 10 years.

Day trip to Chacahua, got my first real rides. On 15" mast, would breach immediately in the bigger waves, so went to 24" and got a couple good long rides, 15-30 seconds, with long hot walkbacks after. Felt pretty great up there with a comparatively tiny board (5'x20" vs 7.6' sup). Better paddle fitness will be needed for sure, compared to sup. So far I am only taking off in white water, the faces are too pitchy to make at this stage.

If any of you get down to Oaxaca, Chacahua is a surf paradise that may be epic for foiling ... low tide had really fun regular surf, as tide came up it got fat, but long walls and sections that are hard to make on surfboard but I bet more makeable on foil. This will require a return visit!

People here have never seen foils ... a lot of beach time spent showing it to local surfers and explaining it ... they have seen the videos. Next year there will be more.

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Last 3 days I've been out. Today was half the size as the previous 2. Nothing to special to note. I've figured out how to get 2-1's at one of my regular spots where I couldn't do it at all last year, so that's fun.

Today as I caught my wave in I didn't notice Laird off in the distance coming out on his E-foil. As I was doing the rock dance in with my board upside down and foil in the air, He is passing by on the outside to keep going to the next couple spots down the beach. I'm watching him go by and he waved. So, basically I'm best friends with Laird Hamilton now thanks to foiling.

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Officially into the mysto reef realm today.

Rolled up to a spot I've been scoping for awhile, but too many people on all sorts of craft in the lineup. Spotted a bombie breaking about a 1/4 mile away and opted to check it out. As I rolled up I could see someone bobbing in the lineup on a familiar board, now I'm out there!

Paddle out was mellow, but once in the lineup it was quickly apparent the swell was just jacking on a random outcrop of reef. Takeoff was either a roller or a straight drop. Clock was ticking, so only had a few cracks at getting into it, buddy got one to shore but I got passed up as i got up on foil on the one legit wave I caught.

Looking forward to tomorrow.


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I hit top speed on my 2017 Naish Large today several times. Just me for an hour, then Laird joined for the next 2 hours. He was still out when I left. Trying to take the same lines he does was crazy. I couldn't keep the foil in the water a bunch of times because I was just going to fast. Real fun session. My last wave was equal to my longest rides out there. Laird was doubling that distance.

We talked a bit. He's on his 7 foot something SUP with front and back foot straps. Foil science, their medium wing he said. He didn't seem to know what the dimensions were. He said he only switches wings when he goes to the smaller one to tow foil big waves. He did say his nephew is involved with foil science and claimed they're better than GoFoil. He doesn't like the "twitchiness" of GoFoil, I asked if it was the flex in the mast he agreed with that statement, but I'm not sure if that's what he was actually referring to.

These words came out of his mouth today. "I'm in consumption mode, I just want to catch as many waves as possible and ride them for the longest distance possible." HAH! Laird being Laird. It was fun to see him eat it on a drop, even if he did claim he hit a big bunch of kelp. smile

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Laird's nephew is Chuck Glynn. He looks like a smaller version of Laird. Chuck started Foil Science with I think Jeff Clark.

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I was suprised looking at the foilscience.com website that the wing he's using is so small. He's a big guy. But, the waves were overhead yesterday so that makes up for the small wing I guess. About to head back down now.

Pretty sure this is the wing he was using. "The 116 (1160 sq. cm surface area at 25.5" span) wing is optimized to fly in a wide range of conditions. This makes it ideal for surfing, wake surfing and kiteboarding."

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Nice, I might go down there thursday, it is suppoed to rain so the crowd will be much more mellow I hope.

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how the hek are you getting to mystos?...you hane a gate key? ....or park at big dume and walk down the stairs and paddle a mile south? ....take me!


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I know some people. Grew up in Malibu. Still good out there today. I was getting destroyed through one section. Going full speed as a boil would make the wave stand up and section. It felt like I was trying to go over a shipsterns bluff step in the wave. Real fun.

2 day's ago, just Laird and me. Yesterday, no key I had to walk in, just one other foil. Today, myself, 2 other foils, then when I was changing the guy from yesterday was going out, and when I left a foil in a truck was driving down. So I guess foils are showing up. It's gonna get crazy out there, but maybe it'll be until next year when all those rich guys finally buy in.

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Originally Posted by Hdip
I know some people. Grew up in Malibu. Still good out there today. I was getting destroyed through one section. Going full speed as a boil would make the wave stand up and section. It felt like I was trying to go over a shipsterns bluff step in the wave. Real fun.

2 day's ago, just Laird and me. Yesterday, no key I had to walk in, just one other foil. Today, myself, 2 other foils, then when I was changing the guy from yesterday was going out, and when I left a foil in a truck was driving down. So I guess foils are showing up. It's gonna get crazy out there, but maybe it'll be until next year when all those rich guys finally buy in.



Looks like the wave is easier on a sup foil, non ?

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I can see the benefits of the sup foil. Mostly in paddling back out the long distance. And a bit on the drop of the bigger sets. Only laird is on the sup foil though. Everyone else is prone.

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Originally Posted by Hdip
I can see the benefits of the sup foil. Mostly in paddling back out the long distance. And a bit on the drop of the bigger sets. Only laird is on the sup foil though. Everyone else is prone.


Interesting observation. Prone foils dominate the CA spots. I wonder if other spots tend to be the opposite? Around here (Vancouver Island), there's too few to say, but it's mostly SUP so far. Me and a buddy, and 1 or 2 others starting out.

I am attempting the transition to prone foil, for the freedom of movement the smaller board will allow. But facing the reality check of paddling fitness. There's a reason I've been mostly longboarding and SUPping past 10 years, and it isn't because they are more radical. ;-) Once I am competent at prone foil and getting equivalent rides, I anticipate getting quite a few less waves per session, as I can paddle back literally twice as fast on my sup (unless I am in a spot where walk backs are easy). Though better rides once on them and maybe, just maybe, if learn to do the pumping effectively, that'll even things out. We'll see.

Anyways, back to thread topic, Session Logs: got nothing to share, entering the flat season, no more big storms to funnel swell down the JDF Strait. Nearest consistent surf is 5 hour drive. Kiting and boat foil training instead.

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Well, this is a pretty crap video of pretty crap foiling but here it is...super marginal, and tripod-ing on the reef as the waves drew up. M200 29.5” mast.


[video:youtube]https://youtu.be/LxnmTT0eMZc[/video]

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Originally Posted by Clamsmasha
Well, this is a pretty crap video of pretty crap foiling but here it is...super marginal, and tripod-ing on the reef as the waves drew up. M200 29.5” mast.


[video:youtube]https://youtu.be/LxnmTT0eMZc[/video]

check out the pumping on the clamsmasha!!!! what a work out!

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On sunday june 2nd I'm gonna organise a funfoilday at Sano, it is not an event, it will be my last weekend in California before I move back to France. So for this occasion, I'm trying to get all the foilers I know to come down there to share some waves, talk foil, etc... Evan from Axis foil will be there with demo foil, Damian Brawner will be there with 52foico boards to show. For those who haven't foiled Sano it might a good day to come !

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Originally Posted by gregfoil
Evan from Axis foil will be there with demo foil, Damian Brawner will be there with 52foico boards to show. For those who haven't foiled Sano it might a good day to come !


Now this is tempting. How early do I have to show up to get in the lot easy?

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Originally Posted by Hdip
Originally Posted by gregfoil
Evan from Axis foil will be there with demo foil, Damian Brawner will be there with 52foico boards to show. For those who haven't foiled Sano it might a good day to come !


Now this is tempting. How early do I have to show up to get in the lot easy?


Depends on the weather and swell but usually you wan to be there at 6am when the gat open !

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Probably caught 20-25 waves today in the hour I had to foil. 3 of them (including my wave in) were 2 for 1's. That is the most satisfying feeling to turn back around and ride the 2nd wave. Especially on the 2nd one where I touched down while still pumping out but had already made it to the section of reef that boils back up at you and was able to save it and still get the 2-1.

I was almost tempted to ride a normal board at a different section of the beach, but thankfully 3 guys pulled up right after me and were going there. So I put together my foil instead and had a great time by myself with no one around at the "lesser" of the spots.

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Windy day put me at another spot I've been scoping. Got a few decent rides but the waves were breaking a lot closer to shore than i anticipated. Short rides on the foil aren't that fun.


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Quick kick out and loop connection for 2-1's are fun though. One of the SUP guys told me he got a SUP foil setup off craigslist. It'll be interesting to see if he sticks with it. The windswell today was crazy. Sort of messing up the South that was in the water and making the waves come in sideways, but I still had fun. Took off on one and went left. Made it through the dry reef section and kicked out with speed, loop connection on the pump back out and went right on the very next wave.

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Hdip, your tail wing is adjustable, yeah? what do you have it set at? I've got the chinese knockoff of the Naish Large, and can't quite get the 2 for 1's down. I get about halfway to the next wave, before I've lost all my speed.

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I've always had it set to neutral. The wing does not pump well. You have to kick out just right carrying a lot of speed. Then you can put in a lot of effort and sometimes make it to the next wave. I make about half of the ones I try for if today is anything to go for. Had a chance at 6. Made 3 of them. It helps if you can go over a reef that boils back up at you. Or you time backwash just right to get an extra boost out. I'm 185# so maybe it's a bit small for me to really pump on.

I do have the foil set 3/4's of the way forward in my tracks. Being able to get my back foot behind the mast helps me so much on turns and steep drops. Pumping I definitely move my back foot on top or in front of the mast though. There's a definite depth sweet spot where you're just right at the top of the mast without breeching. Hard to keep the foil there though.

I'm very tempted to go to San O June 2nd just so that I can try other foils. Axis demo's at the least. I probably won't be able to make it though. If I knew there would be Lift demo's I'd probably make a greater effort to get there.

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Took an island hop last week to be a part of the https://www.fullonfoil.org/ event representing Go Foil and Olukai. First foil only comp and was a good time with team competition. Had to catch as many waves as you can in 3 twenty minute heats. Team Kaua'i killed it with an all prone team. I was the only proner on our team.
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Me and Archie Kalepa talking foil before the comp start.


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So you had to take off? Round a buoy for that wave to count? Then pump back out to another buoy before you could catch the next wave?

Super fun today for the foil. I'm not even sure I know what to look for to ride a normal surfboard anymore. I did a backside bottom turn top turn combo that felt like a real turn though. So fun.


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Originally Posted by Hdip
I've always had it set to neutral. The wing does not pump well. You have to kick out just right carrying a lot of speed. Then you can put in a lot of effort and sometimes make it to the next wave. I make about half of the ones I try for if today is anything to go for. Had a chance at 6. Made 3 of them. It helps if you can go over a reef that boils back up at you. Or you time backwash just right to get an extra boost out. I'm 185# so maybe it's a bit small for me to really pump on.

I do have the foil set 3/4's of the way forward in my tracks. Being able to get my back foot behind the mast helps me so much on turns and steep drops. Pumping I definitely move my back foot on top or in front of the mast though. There's a definite depth sweet spot where you're just right at the top of the mast without breeching. Hard to keep the foil there though.

I'm very tempted to go to San O June 2nd just so that I can try other foils. Axis demo's at the least. I probably won't be able to make it though. If I knew there would be Lift demo's I'd probably make a greater effort to get there.


Come on Hdip, you should come to sano june 2nd, it is a good opportunity to meet others foilers and talk about the same passion. And maybe you will be able to try differents brands fro, others. Being there often, I was able to try, MFC, Lift, Arstrong, Naish !

Regarding pumping back out, Naish L, MFC1275, Lift200, Armstrong1250, are pretty similar. I guess the new MFC and Lift are easier, same size as the IWA. There is no secret, bigger wing makes it easier otherwise it takes lots of practise to master the technique on smaller wings. Hurley brothers use Naish M and L and can do multiple rides.

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can't quite get the 2 for 1's down. I get about halfway to the next wave, before I've lost all my speed.



Go read this thread.

https://www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php/topic,34809.0.html

Here is a pertinent qoute.

I got the unifoil 210 (albatross 210) about a week ago a and have been completely obsessed with it since. I've now used it for 4 good long sessions and what is being discussed hadnt even ocurred to me. To be honest it pumps sooooo good that for the first session I couldnt have given a monkeys how it turns. Im 70kg on a 6'0x26 custom foil board and went from breathlessly connecting one '2 for 1' a session on a Naish large to instantly doing '3 for 1s' and pumping huge distances effortlessly.

To which I say. TAKE MY MONEY NOW!

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Regarding pumping back out, Naish L, MFC1275, Lift200, Armstrong1250, are pretty similar. I guess the new MFC and Lift are easier, same size as the IWA. There is no secret, bigger wing makes it easier otherwise it takes lots of practice to master the technique on smaller wings. Hurley brothers use Naish M and L and can do multiple rides.


I'm trying greg! @foiltheworld pumps his armstrong 1250 around like mad for multiple wave too. I bought my foil from Ryan Hurley. They're all a couple inches shorter than me and I"m at least 20 pounds heavier. Not to mention those guys tow into bigger waves a lot too. So I'll go with that excuse. I am getting there though. Starting to make much further distances.

I was surprised to see @foiltheworld said he was used to the 1250 and getting the same distance out of that over the 1600 for the pump contest.

As far as San O on June 2nd goes. It's a playdate for my 4 year olds new school, so I sort of have to take her to that to get her used to the school. Hands tied there. Hit me up on Instagram if you want to get a session in by me next week though.

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So you had to take off? Round a buoy for that wave to count? Then pump back out to another buoy before you could catch the next wave?

Super fun today for the foil. I'm not even sure I know what to look for to ride a normal surfboard anymore. I did a backside bottom turn top turn combo that felt like a real turn though. So fun.

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So there were 3 buoys out there, the 2 big yellow ones, and a smaller red one where you paddle into the wave. Wave count was from the red take off, around inside buoy, pump back to red and stop, or pump out to outside yellow and ride one back to inside yellow for a multiple score.

The outside yellow was pretty far out but I made it around it 2 times. They did make adjustments to the buoys after the first round, brought them closer together.

Also the rope lines to the anchors were clipping foils so you had to watch out for that too...


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Back at the local today after trying some other spots and giving the Naish XL wing another shot on the shorter waves.

The Naish L is so easy to jump back onto, it took me almost an hour to acclimate to the ride of the XL a few days ago. Today paddled out, right into a 20+ second ride. Very satisfying day surfing on the foil, even hit a little top turn combo.

Pumping is another matter though, it's official I'm terrible. XL glides with just about any speed once up on foil, I would probably get my 2 for 1 down if i committed to the XL. It's just such a bummer to adjust to the slowness of the ride.


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went back to my smaller board and it felt so much better. The bigger 5'8 i got makes catching bigger waves much easier, but I tend to put my feet too far forward on the board and I have to fight to keep the foil up. switched back to the 4'7 and it felt like I was riding a bigger foil with extra lift. almost got a 2 for 1, had 2 waves where i was able to pump back to the next wave, but was too far out in the channel and there wasn't enough energy in the wave.... baby steps...

have you tried a naish M? curious how it compares to the large

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Originally Posted by grendel95
Back at the local today after trying some other spots and giving the Naish XL wing another shot on the shorter waves.

The Naish L is so easy to jump back onto, it took me almost an hour to acclimate to the ride of the XL a few days ago. Today paddled out, right into a 20+ second ride. Very satisfying day surfing on the foil, even hit a little top turn combo.

Pumping is another matter though, it's official I'm terrible. XL glides with just about any speed once up on foil, I would probably get my 2 for 1 down if i committed to the XL. It's just such a bummer to adjust to the slowness of the ride.





There is something that clicks with pumping. Trying to find a rhythm for swinging your arms seems to really help you go the extra distance. A lot of the Australian Instagram guys use the medium naish and pump far on it. I wonder how it is to ride.

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Looks like Naish foils are slow, for exemple Axis 75 is quite the same as the Naish L but because it is faster it makes pumping back out easier.

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Just borrowed a buddies Armstrong 1200 for a couple waves. Way more lift than the naish L knockoff I'm using. Like 3 times more lift. Everything just felt easier. Turns felt faster and sharper, pumping is easier.

Shit, now I think I gotta spend a lot more money! Haha!

Anyone have any comparisons between the Armstrong and the axis wings?

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Do you guys ever feel like Jeff Clark? He knew that Maverick's was a great wave and wanted people to surf it with him. But at the same time if he tells the world about it, then it will get crowded and out of hand? I'm torn.

It was a bit windy and low tide today so there was no one around, but it was perfect for foiling. One other prone guy I'd never seen before came out halfway through my session. So the foils are showing up. It's gonna get crowded, glad I've had a year with basically no one around already.

Bigmtnbill, I don't think anyone around here has ridden the armstrongs. They do look amazing. If you're going to spend all the money for a new setup though get one that has a high aspect wing. Kuno even says he'd go GL (high aspect) over the Iwa. I will get a new foil at some point. Axis is probably the front runner as I'd hope to get a used setup. Neil Pryde is cheap enough new to be tempting, but Axis has so many options.

Where's the axis high aspect wing review greg?

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Originally Posted by bigmtnbill
Just borrowed a buddies Armstrong 1200 for a couple waves. Way more lift than the naish L knockoff I'm using. Like 3 times more lift. Everything just felt easier. Turns felt faster and sharper, pumping is easier.

Shit, now I think I gotta spend a lot more money! Haha!

Anyone have any comparisons between the Armstrong and the axis wings?


I tried the Armstrong 1200 on a similar board than mine (4'0) but waves were tricky. I didn't like it much actually, not enought lift and not enought glide on slow part of the wave, but I just got couples waves on it, maybe not enought for a good review. I would put the Arsmtrong with the same categorie as MFCM/L and Lift170/200, great foil but definetly technical for pumping back out and connect waves, or you need proper wave (at least for me). But I'm used to ride the Gofoil IWA which is way bigger and super easy for pumping. I also foil on small mushy wave. Maybe I'm just too lazy to get used to a technical foil.
I wouldbe good to hear from Dave and Steve as they both ride MFCM and Armstrong1200, they would give a really good report and I don't think they are on the forum, I will ask them next time.

I'm not sponsored by Axis, I'm just trying as they have a demo that I can use. For me the Axis75 felt really good because
connecting waves was easy, not as easy as the GF IWA but easier than MFC or Lift or Naish L. It turns better than the IWA and it is faster. This is the size I was looking for, bigger than Kai wing and smaller than IWA.

But lately I tried the Axis900 hight aspect wing. I really liked it, good speed (except when the wave push too much, it reaches a lower top speed so it gives you the feeling of going slow).It is super forgiving on steep take off, really good glide (no need to pump on the wave to speed up), easy to pump back out to connect wave. And the best is it carves super good and smooth on the upcoming wave when you connect, I had the best carving turn ever on it (and you know this is the best feeling ever !!).
Turning is like the IWA, good on mushy part of the wave, tricky on steep part (maybe when you get used to it, it gets easier).

I think for me a good combo would be the Axis75 for ''good'' waves and Axis900 for small waves when I use my 4'3 (which is 90%). Axis900 when I use my 5'10 SUP for all conditions. And Axis92 or the new 1000 for SUP dw.

Now I would like to try the Signature Albatross210 and the new GoFil GL.

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Hdip, yeah that's my thought too, especially considering I could get the axis with 2 wings for the same price as one Armstrong. My other thought is get a used gofoil setup and hope I can get a new gl wing that fits it. But the idea of having to drill new holes or modify something to make it fit scares me.

Thanks for the info Greg, do you think you can downwind the 900?

I'd be curious to hear from everyone on here about which wing they'd buy if they had to start over from scratch knowing what they know now. When considering price, available wings(or almost available), reviews, etc what would you purchase and why?

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okok rode an Axis 100 while i was nursing my toe injury. my buddy has a full Axis setup and just got the 100. We swapped for about 4 waves, I can say it pumps out pretty darn good. On the turn it was like rolling a GF200, very sluggish.


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Originally Posted by bigmtnbill
Hdip, yeah that's my thought too, especially considering I could get the axis with 2 wings for the same price as one Armstrong. My other thought is get a used gofoil setup and hope I can get a new gl wing that fits it. But the idea of having to drill new holes or modify something to make it fit scares me.

Thanks for the info Greg, do you think you can downwind the 900?

I'd be curious to hear from everyone on here about which wing they'd buy if they had to start over from scratch knowing what they know now. When considering price, available wings(or almost available), reviews, etc what would you purchase and why?



I had to alter my fuselage to fit my GL. The chord is about 2 inches shorter so you have to cut that much off the tip. All my other wings still fit fine.


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Originally Posted by Kaser1
okok rode an Axis 100 while i was nursing my toe injury. my buddy has a full Axis setup and just got the 100. We swapped for about 4 waves, I can say it pumps out pretty darn good. On the turn it was like rolling a GF200, very sluggish.



Yes I guess it is made for DW, not for surfing. How would you compared to a GL same size if you have tried ?

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Originally Posted by bigmtnbill
Hdip, yeah that's my thought too, especially considering I could get the axis with 2 wings for the same price as one Armstrong. My other thought is get a used gofoil setup and hope I can get a new gl wing that fits it. But the idea of having to drill new holes or modify something to make it fit scares me.

Thanks for the info Greg, do you think you can downwind the 900?

I'd be curious to hear from everyone on here about which wing they'd buy if they had to start over from scratch knowing what they know now. When considering price, available wings(or almost available), reviews, etc what would you purchase and why?


Yes you can DW with the 900 but you need to be good already and it needs enought wind.

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Kaser1 is that your buddy ?

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Originally Posted by gregfoil
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Kaser1 is that your buddy ?




Good idea for a thread bigmtn. Make a new one, I'll reply.

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thats Junya....got my first high performance foil board from him....well borrowed it actually because im going to give it back....hes about 225# solid....no fat and can jam on the foil....full on!....suuuuper nice guy too


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Originally Posted by gregfoil
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Yes, thats Junya, known him since mid 90's. He rides Axis but not the rig i borrowed. I rode Alikas prone 5'2" with a Axis 100 wing. His board is 50L as he's a big boy, wonder how it woulda gone on my 38L 4'10?


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Originally Posted by gregfoil
On sunday june 2nd I'm gonna organise a funfoilday at Sano, it is not an event, it will be my last weekend in California before I move back to France. So for this occasion, I'm trying to get all the foilers I know to come down there to share some waves, talk foil, etc... Evan from Axis foil will be there with demo foil, Damian Brawner will be there with 52foico boards to show. For those who haven't foiled Sano it might a good day to come !



Greg is this still going down? How long will you guys be down there? I'd definitely like to check this out.


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Waits for foil meetup reports. Who is switching to axis? 😀

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Link doesn't work. How many people showed up? The surfline cam showed a lot of people out at old mans. I don't think it shows where you foilers go though.

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https://www.facebook.com/gregory.closier?__tn__=%2CdC-R-R&eid=ARD67DZ51vUJcd4_7s8WityzQS_VF9G36EIQrvp4c1vRMD3T2okUdAN8iEYLZFRX7MvIOKWnA2dvfkFj&hc_ref=ARQZIkQ4p6HtP3LfHu2tmXHuNRLG2cA063GK7Zz4E9Sa9feovs4lvgfYNf122CIVPtM&fref=nf

Well the good thing is at Sano dogpatch, it is pretty much a foil zone, only a couples supers others than that it is all about foiling, so this is perfect.

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Love this shot.

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that looked like a lot of fun. I foiled there for almost 4 hours the day before, so tired after that,

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Originally Posted by Hdip
<iframe src="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fphoto.php%3Ffbid%3D10217101182135485%26set%3Da.1364807114017%26type%3D3&width=500" width="500" height="337" style="border:none;overflow:hidden" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowTransparency="true" allow="encrypted-media"></iframe>

Love this shot.


Greg, I think I saw this guy out there on Friday (white board, MFC foil, reg foot). He's really good.


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Originally Posted by Hdip
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Love this shot.


That is Ian, one of the best out there, he really rips !! His set up is amazing : he has a front wing MFC1250/70cm Naish Mast/F4rear wing, how crazy is that !!

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Finally found the line to connect two for ones all the way on the outside today. Super fun. Fell on a head high left when I breached at the top of the wave and fell about eight feet it felt like,tweaked my back a bit though.

I want a new foil but really my 2017 naish large works perfectly well. So I gotta keep telling myself that.

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Originally Posted by Hdip
Finally found the line to connect two for ones all the way on the outside today. Super fun. Fell on a head high left when I breached at the top of the wave and fell about eight feet it felt like,tweaked my back a bit though.

I want a new foil but really my 2017 naish large works perfectly well. So I gotta keep telling myself that.


I have an app that measures distance and speed of my rides, but I think most of my top speeds are the result of getting tossed from the top of the mast.

Top speed today 18.2 mph, 2 seconds.


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Originally Posted by Hdip
Finally found the line to connect two for ones all the way on the outside today. Super fun. Fell on a head high left when I breached at the top of the wave and fell about eight feet it felt like,tweaked my back a bit though.

I want a new foil but really my 2017 naish large works perfectly well. So I gotta keep telling myself that.


I would say the best is to try as many as you can.

Also just like you mentioned, when you don't have choice and when you stick to the same equipement, you learn how to use it a its full potential.

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Session log from yesterday...new breakthroughs

I've been out of the water for about a week, suffered a deep finger cut that needed stiches. Yesterday I covered it up and took the GL out for mini downwinders at Hookipa. Chip in at Pavils and turn out to sea once on foil. Wind direction, swell, everything was lined up and I was able to read and quarter the lines pretty good. Had one screamer through middles section and had to turn to shore otherwise I would have blown past the landing and ended up at Kuau.

So I got a good sample of the downwinder aspect, pretty fun IMO. Something to do when surf is flat (like now).


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Fought the rising tide and diminishing swell today. First ride was fun all the way through. 2nd ride at the inside spot to get in and walk back was fun. Sat for a good half hour before I even had another attempt at a wave breaking off the outside reef. It barely capped and I got into it with a well timed jump to my feet and pump. It wasn't going to go all the way through so I went left. Kicked out with speed and pumped almost all the way back out. Then I sat for 45 minutes. I had a chance at one set, but it didn't break and even though I got to my feet on one I couldn't pump into it. Paddled in and surfed the inside for a couple before getting out of there.

In other news I finally had to remove a seized bolt. One of the screws from the mast to baseplate. I rarely take those bolts out. 2 I was able to get out, but that third one was just stripping the bolt and I was making no headway with it. I can vouch for this impact screwdriver as working real easy.

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It was only $13 when I bought it. Took the screw out after some whacks with a hammer, replaced it with an .80 cent bolt from home depot that I had already bought when I switched out all my other bolts. Good to go.

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stainless bolts in a brass lock nut in the tracks all in salt water....SOMETHING has to corrode....i.e. the brass threads or whatever is least noble....zinc plated washers from home depot will provide cathodic protection for a few months at a time


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How's the high tide at night been treating you steamroller?

It was tiny today. Flat basically. Kind of perfect for 2 for 1's though. They really up your wave count. Rode about 20 waves in an hour. Water was warm, sun was out, beach was empty. Not ideal but I'll take it.

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More adventures on the Naish XL wing, actually pumped from spot A to spot B paralleling to shore last session and nearly into my first 2 for 1 today.

While I've gotten the hang of the XL, I have definitely found it's limit in wave power. Spot A is pretty gutless and the wave peters out toward shore, allowing me to zig and zag on the XL to stay on the power source. Spot B builds in strength as it reaches shore and the speed becomes unmanageable on the face, but rockets you out the back if you kick out early.

I've gotten my hands on a Naish medium wing and am gonna give that a go at spot B with the rising swell.


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You're getting quite the Naish collection grendel. Let me know how that Medium goes. I've given up on the XL. It's not for me. For the spots I surf I can make the L go in anything because the waves cap on a reef and I can just sit right where it breaks to get in. The medium could be interesting though.

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after significant testing today at high tide malibu i have determined that the GL210 is not the best option for prone foilsurf....SUP its gangbusterss! good...prone not so much....waaaay to much lift....that is all


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Originally Posted by Steamroller
after significant testing today at high tide malibu i have determined that the GL210 is not the best option for prone foilsurf....SUP its gangbusterss! good...prone not so much....waaaay to much lift....that is all


Damn, I have one inbound.

What’s the span on that beast?

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Quite a bit bigger than I expected and not much time to surf, so not too successful a day testing the Naish medium.

For the most part the M felt the same as the L, same lift and turning on the wave.The big difference was trying to pump the wing out the back, it felt like all the stability was gone and the slightest balance mistake and I was back in the water. I compared the M to the L while swapping them, the size difference isn't too great and the shapes is exactly the same (unlike the L to XL).


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Originally Posted by Clamsmasha
Originally Posted by Steamroller
after significant testing today at high tide malibu i have determined that the GL210 is not the best option for prone foilsurf....SUP its gangbusterss! good...prone not so much....waaaay to much lift....that is all


Damn, I have one inbound.

What’s the span on that beast?




the one i gotnis the prototype...extra wide chord length....the production wings will be about 1 inch less chord that is from leading edge to trailing edge...should be more manageable...so youre probably stl good...i got one on order too.....i think thats the reason why....the thing pumps ....FOR....EV...ERRRRRR....if you lose ypu speed and splash down you can still recover it and get airborne...easy to do on a SUP with a paddle ...but unheard of ona prone board....so thats prettyGREAT!.....its just when turning wants to jumpnout of the water all the time ...i had to put my front foot about an inch more forward and the footstraps wouldnt go that far...the span tip to tip is about an inch longer than the Maliko200 from tip to tip so it still just barely fits in the old original blue bag though....


i should probably mention that this is only a first test....the new T-tail is adjustable....just slip on or out a washer to change the pitch of the rear elevator wing....test #2today....will report


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Originally Posted by Steamroller
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I found the problem. smile

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yeah but i want do airs like Kaser...take pic and be COOL!🤣


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Drove all around looking for a real wave since I saw a good instagram post today. Decided if it's going to look ugly and kinda morning sick screw that I'll just foil and know I'll get good waves.

Real fun. Although I did do something stupid. On one wave I bottom turned and did whatever the foil equivalent is of digging a rail. So I knew I was going to fall. I jumped off and underwater did a dolphin kick with both feet. I forgot that the foil was on the same path as me and the wing was chasing me down, I kicked the wing as it was running into me. So my ankle hurts now. I'm exhausted from all the paddling though so I don't really mind.

I also did a criss cross with a guy riding a mat. Alt surf craft for the win!

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My brother asked me if I could put the foil on rail more than I was doing yesterday. So I worked on that today. I did one round house and banked off the white water. I was down real low and it tried to kick flip on me. I had to use my hand on the back pad by my toes to keep it under control. Kinda sprained my fingers though. Haha foiling is rough.

One thing that’s awesome though. I’ve been riding that board for over a year and it’s in great shape. Heavy glass and always being in deep water is amazing for board longevity.

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Had my first ‘2 for 1’ or double dip or whatever you want to call it, 4 hour session and I wasn’t going in till I had it, so stocked.

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I've found there are certain lines at certain spots that are easier to get it than others. If you find where the currents are sucking out you can get into those and ride right out to the next wave. It's honestly my favorite part of foiling I think. Really reminds me of skimboarding.

Edit: What wing/mast size?

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takuma-LOL 1600 wing with 70cm mast, i'm a super lightyweight at 148lbs so plenty lifty,

got my foot position and technique clicking towards the end of the session and was really moving it on the pump outs, it's taken 4 months to get to this point, i would have stayed in for more but the tide got too low.

it's in a rivermouth break so the tide is hairing out on dropping tides, can't wait for another session there.

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Oh that foil looks crazy. You're going to get tons of waves on that thing at your size. You and @foiltheworld are about the same size. He has that wing now too. Also he rode the armstrong 1600 for a long time. Get your pump dialed on that and then you can move down to a more surfy wing next summer.

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yeh crazy sharp at the back that's for sure!!!! haha,

they have a 1300 coming out in august i think so will grab that then, missing the tighter turns of a 1250 at the moment but it's really nice to ride and so so so fast at the top end it's more than entertaining for the moment,

i'm more than happy to work my pump game out at the sacrifice of some manoeuvrability at this stage.

it'll be interesting to see what foiltheworld says about it.



i did almost have 2 for 1's on the 1250 gong last month but nothing like this, that was more lucky runs than anything planned.




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Essentially flat. Foiled. Caught my ten or so waves in 50 minutes and got out of there before the tide killed it completely.

Re: Foil Session Logs [Re: juandesooka] #2994592
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Foiled w Grendel the last two days. Messed w the rear wing angle and realized after foiling, that I moved it the opposite direction I should have. The bigger day, riding my naish large, I angled my rear wing down, but that actually gave me more overall lift. Yesterday was smaller, but I thought the swell was filling in, so I rode the medium front wing and angled the rear up, which gave me less lift. Will try the medium front wing and angle the rear down next. Looking for the happy middle.

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Re: Foil Session Logs [Re: juandesooka] #2994652
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Yeah it’s the trailing edge of the wing that matters right? Trailing edge down = less lift. Trailing edge up = more lift. I’ve never moved mine from neutral. I read someone’s comment saying he makes his super lifty and gets more glide out of his pumps. I’m considering trying it.

Re: Foil Session Logs [Re: juandesooka] #2994969
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Hey Ghostie,

Moving the foil forward in the tracks will also achieve extra nose-up pitch, I do that in small increments if it is really weak and only good for pumping. I foil two waves about a mile apart...one has a nice lined up wall, gets the foil up to scary speeds, the other is a crap capper into deep water with a short wall. I almost can’t ride the thing set up for one wave at the other. Only 1/4” or so different.

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Thanks for the tips. I currently have it pushed back as far as I can bc I'm still trying to get over the turn-off-the-back-foot-surfing mindset. I like the sound of the Maui guys setting up their foils for something that feels more like surfing.


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High tide made me not want to go check my normal foil wave. So I ventured back to where I learned how to foil. Haven't been there in over a year. It was a bunch of fun. Much shorter, but way more intense rides.

I checked my rear stab angle of attack after Ghost's previous post. Turns out the tail had slipped so there was less and less lift over time. No wonder it felt weird to me about 5 sessions ago. The last two sessions I've been moving it up from neutral to get more lift. Seems to work. Not moving the mast in the tracks at all. Just trying to change one thing at a time.

Re: Foil Session Logs [Re: Hdip] #2998071
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I've been using this route as a training for prone downwinding recently. Chip in outside Pavils in the windline and can run all the way down to Lanes beach, get out and walk back. Did it 2xs yesterday on my 4'10" KT prone, GoFoil GL180 front and Iwa tail.



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