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Re: CA. Summer Boards [Re: 92122] #2935260
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A 5'11 Dwart sounds way too big, IMO.

I haven't tried a Dwart, but I really love my Super Fling. It will surf anything and still turns decent.

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Re: CA. Summer Boards [Re: Racer1] #2935453
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Originally Posted by Racer1
A 5'11 Dwart sounds way too big, IMO.


"way too big" for who? a 185lb surfer? A 205lb surfer?? I can understand that blowing out the dims / volume on certain designs is a bad decision, but not every board design requires it to be ridden small / low volume.


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for a true groveler I would bump it up even more IMO.

For reference, my DD is 32 L and my groveler is an album sub at approx 35-37L (guessing).

I would like a groveler that has a bit more upper range and that can handle steeper dumpy small waves we get in summer so I would get my dwart too in the 34-35 L range.

I'm 6'0" 205


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I feel like if a board is too floaty you'll roll over the top of the wave rather than catching it.

That Dwart looks awesome but you can't go wrong with a low rocker quad fish IMO

My all-time favorite groveler is the Barry Snyder Hitchcock


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Originally Posted by 92122
Originally Posted by Racer1
A 5'11 Dwart sounds way too big, IMO.


"way too big" for who? a 185lb surfer?



Yes.

I'd agree with Racer on this one, but ride what feels right. What works for you could be very different from what works for me.

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Originally Posted by 92122
Originally Posted by Racer1
A 5'11 Dwart sounds way too big, IMO.


"way too big" for who? a 185lb surfer? A 205lb surfer?? I can understand that blowing out the dims / volume on certain designs is a bad decision, but not every board design requires it to be ridden small / low volume.







FOR YOU (since you started the post)

Yes that board is supposed to be ridden tiny, Rusty team would probably tell you 5'4 or 5'6 based on your height/weight, but you don't need to go that small. What about 5'7, 5'8 or 5'9? That'll still be plenty of volume in my experience (I'm the same weight as you but 6'1).

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Originally Posted by Racer1
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Originally Posted by Racer1
A 5'11 Dwart sounds way too big, IMO.


"way too big" for who? a 185lb surfer? A 205lb surfer?? I can understand that blowing out the dims / volume on certain designs is a bad decision, but not every board design requires it to be ridden small / low volume.







FOR YOU (since you started the post)

Yes that board is supposed to be ridden tiny, Rusty team would probably tell you 5'4 or 5'6 based on your height/weight, but you don't need to go that small. What about 5'7, 5'8 or 5'9? That'll still be plenty of volume in my experience (I'm the same weight as you but 6'1).


agree

I have over foamed groveler boards before to my detriment. I'm 185 and by no means a mighty paddler and I'd probably ride the 5'7 Dwart Too.

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Faaaark... I should demo one then... maybe the rocker difference from my 35L Chew Toy would allow me to feel better about a lower volume, but its hard to imagine going less floaty than 35L and catching more waves..??..


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I think a Tomo Evo is a great summer board. I just picked one up that is 1.5L more than I normally ride for the $hitty summer mush that is to come! Looking forward to riding it this summa! shaka


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Yeah, Evo with an extra 1-2 L might be enough, but even better would be his GMM2 model under Hydrodynamica label, via XTR. Basically extends out the corners of the Evo and packs a lot of volume into a pretty rectangular shape- you have essentially a groveler Evo. I can honestly ride it when most everyone else is on longboards yet it's a surprisingly high-performance version of a planing hull concept (=effortless speed). I'm 6', 180, and ride a 5'6" 34L.

I also picked up 5'9" Mandala ASQ off CL last year. It's an interesting design: almost like a mid length with a couple feet taken out of the middle. More "cruisey" than the Tomos, but similarly good at generating its own speed. It paddles & catches waves so well that it feels about about 2-3" too big for me. I ride it when I'm feeling lazy or it's 1-3'.

GoFish is also a really fast board for CA summer surf (I have a PU version). Seaside looks similar as well.

For the Rusty, I'd agree not to go more than 2L more than your normal vol, or I'd suspect it could start to feel corky. These type of wider/thicker designs you really want to keep short so you can still swing it around easy in gutless surf. IMHO.

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Originally Posted by Oeste858
Yeah, Evo with an extra 1-2 L might be enough, but even better would be his GMM2 model under Hydrodynamica label, via XTR. Basically extends out the corners of the Evo and packs a lot of volume into a pretty rectangular shape- you have essentially a groveler Evo. I can honestly ride it when most everyone else is on longboards yet it's a surprisingly high-performance version of a planing hull concept (=effortless speed). I'm 6', 180, and ride a 5'6" 34L.
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I keep hearing about that GMM2. JKB loves his too. I think that will be my next board (after the OB1). lol.


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Re: CA. Summer Boards [Re: Duffy] #2936105
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Originally Posted by Racer1
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Originally Posted by Racer1
A 5'11 Dwart sounds way too big, IMO.


"way too big" for who? a 185lb surfer? A 205lb surfer?? I can understand that blowing out the dims / volume on certain designs is a bad decision, but not every board design requires it to be ridden small / low volume.



FOR YOU (since you started the post)

Yes that board is supposed to be ridden tiny, Rusty team would probably tell you 5'4 or 5'6 based on your height/weight, but you don't need to go that small. What about 5'7, 5'8 or 5'9? That'll still be plenty of volume in my experience (I'm the same weight as you but 6'1).


So what would you consider the disadvantages of riding a board of this design over volume'd? Assuming its the dreaded 'get stuck in the lip and thrown' scenario in steeper waves, but I just dont see the problem otherwise, and I do see the benefits in paddling and catching more types of waves. Maybe I need to try a "tiny" board but I cant see the advantage in it riding typical CA Summertime Beach Break.. hithead


That said, I rode the 5' 11" 37L PU in some 2'-3' softer beach break and in some clean but very small 1'-2' as well. Definitely had a bit more glide and built in speed than the Chew Toy (less rocker +2L) but still felt like it would be a battle to get a lot of waves in those conditions.

I could see this in the Quiver, but I just cant see sizing it down even more..??.. The logic would be 1'-3' = Mid-length / longboard... 2'-3'+ = 5' 11" Dwart Too... 3'-5'+ = 6' 2" Chew Toy. shrug

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