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Boxy Rails #29303
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I confess to being ignorant regarding surf terminology. I will be asking many questions that are surf related. Some of my questions will seem ridiculously stupid. This time, I have a surfboard question.
I would be very pleased to get answers in english, so that someone who surfs without knowing a lot about the evoloution of surfboards would understand. Answer any or all of the questions as you like.

What does the expression 'boxy rails' mean?
What would be the opposite of 'boxy rails'?
Do the rails run all the way from the nose of the board to the tail of the board, or does the rail imply that it is more of the center?
How does 'boxy rails' affect how a board behaves?
How good of a surfer, do you need to be to really feel the differences that the boxiness of the rails makes?
Pictures that compare the boxiness of rails would be helpful.

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Re: Boxy Rails #29304
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yeah thats easy.

boxy rail:

not boxy rail:


Re: Boxy Rails #29305
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LOW

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BOXY


Re: Boxy Rails #29306
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Boxy rail cross section [

Pinched rail cross section <

The above representations are somewhat exaggerated but should give you the idea


Re: Boxy Rails #29307
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So OCsurfRAT just blew me away.


Re: Boxy Rails #29308
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Boxy rails are rails that are "fuller" or thicker the opposite would be tapered rails that as the name suggest taper more from the center thickness of the board. they hold more speed through a turn and turn a little easier (i think) the draw back is they dont go rail to rail as easy and its harder to bury a rail with them especially in bigger surf when u need too(again i think). mostly found on summer boards such as the swallow tail they mislabel a fish and thicker thrusters

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i say we call this the RETARD thread and all ask questions we'd usually feel like too big of a kook to ask.

[This message has been edited by OCsurfRAT 9 (edited 10-09-2002).]


Re: Boxy Rails #29310
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What are "soft" rails?

I overheard a guy saying he didn't like a certain board because the rails were too soft. Huh?


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Soft rails are roundish, lacking an edge. More forgiving.

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Hard rails are when there's a definite "edge" you can feel at the intersection of the rail and the bottom of the board. Boards from the 70's would have hard rails almost from nose to tail. Most boards now only have hard rails in the tail section. So to answer your question, a soft rail is the opposite of that, when it's a smooth transition to the bottom of the board. That picture in OCSurfRat's post of LOW rails is a hard rail. Soft rails release from turns easy and hard rails hold the turn better.

Re: Boxy Rails #29313
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OK, so the benefit of a soft rail is what? Easier for a beginner? Does a more experienced surfer want harder rails to carve sharper turns?

What are 60/40 rails? I guess I'm asking not just what they are, but what's the benefit. And the downside. My longboard has 60/40 rails. I think there are 50/50 rails, but are there 70/30 rails?


Re: Boxy Rails #29314
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60 40 is the percentage of the board in referance to the wide point
for example 60/40 means that 60 percent of the board is in front of the widepoint, usually on shortboards


not 100%sure aboutt this though

[This message has been edited by Long Island Surfer (edited 10-14-2002).]


Re: Boxy Rails #29315
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Damn, how embarrassing. I thought 60/40 referred to the rails.

Perhaps I should get a new user name so I can ask stupid questions under the guise of being a grom.


Re: Boxy Rails #29316
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quote:
Originally posted by abalone:
Damn, how embarrassing. I thought 60/40 referred to the rails.

Perhaps I should get a new user name so I can ask stupid questions under the guise of being a grom.


Nope, you're right about the rails.



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