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Internet Anonymity: Do we deserve it? #2928854
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We're now more than a few decades into the internet and social media, are we better or worse for being able to anonymously hide behind the things we say online?

Hate speech has been normalized on the internet where there are little repercussions for our words. IMHO we have failed this grand experiment. I don't necessarily believe in censorship but I do believe that we've come to a turning point where we need to take stock in what this internet anonymity is doing to us as a society. Both here in the states and globally.


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Re: Internet Anonymity: Do we deserve it? [Re: frvcvs] #2928861
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You dont have to read it. How stupid are people nowadays?


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Re: Internet Anonymity: Do we deserve it? [Re: ElOgro] #2928864
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Originally Posted By: ElOgro
You dont have to read it. How stupid are people nowadays?


If you bury your head in the sand or up your own ass for that matter does it all go away? shrug


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Re: Internet Anonymity: Do we deserve it? [Re: frvcvs] #2928867
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Pretty sure the 1st amendment includes the right to anonymous speech

Maybe a legal genius will correct me

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Ahh, this is that "Change the Terms" discussion. I knew this would eventually come up here.


Anyone who wants to can drop the various handles they use in their various social media interactions any time they want. But individuals choosing on their own to submit to a speech code isn't what we're talking about here, is it?


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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Pretty sure the 1st amendment includes the right to anonymous speech

Maybe a legal genius will correct me


Pretty sure the 1st amendment makes no mention of the internet and being that it's not a closed internet and it expands well beyond the United States of America does the constitution apply? I'm not saying we should curb what we say, I'm saying perhaps we should take more responsibility for the things we say and perhaps that would happen if we weren't hiding behind anonymous internet handles and screen names and our real names and identities were linked to the things we say.


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Re: Internet Anonymity: Do we deserve it? [Re: frvcvs] #2928873
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Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Pretty sure the 1st amendment includes the right to anonymous speech

Maybe a legal genius will correct me


Pretty sure the 1st amendment makes no mention of the internet and being that it's not a closed internet and it expands well beyond the United States of America does the constitution apply? I'm not saying we should curb what we say, I'm saying perhaps we should take more responsibility for the things we say and perhaps that would happen if we weren't hiding behind anonymous internet handles and screen names and our real names and identities were linked to the things we say.


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Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Originally Posted By: ElOgro
You dont have to read it. How stupid are people nowadays?


If you bury your head in the sand or up your own ass for that matter does it all go away? shrug


Plenty of people get by without worrying about it. Why is it a priority in your life?


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Re: Internet Anonymity: Do we deserve it? [Re: BillyOcean] #2928875
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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Pretty sure the 1st amendment includes the right to anonymous speech

Maybe a legal genius will correct me

The 1st amendment does nothing in terms of anonymity protections and speech.

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If you're referring to the various mass shooters, how much of their motivation should we attribute to their consumption of objectionable content posted anonymously vs non-anonymously? For that matter, how much of the blame do you think should be attributed to the Khardashian factor where people seek to emulate their "famous for being famous" strategy?


"If it bleeds it leads" was an established media strategy long before the internet came along.

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You should only get this privilege when you've acquired enough social credits.

Re: Internet Anonymity: Do we deserve it? [Re: frvcvs] #2928880
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Group norms are established by the group. We could choose on this little Politics subforum to promulgate a more restrained level of discourse - if enough of us thought it mattered sufficiently to follow through. All we'd have to do is make liberal use of that "ignore" button and stop interacting with the offenders. No external controls are necessary.

We are all free to live in the bubble of our choosing. If we want to.



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I do think the anonymity of the internet causes many to say things they wouldnt to anothers face. Were all guilty of it. I dont think its beneficial at all but it is the nature of the beast. Some choose to maintain that anonymity while others do much less.

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I think the whole social media thing itself has enabled the rise of the bubble factor. First it was cable news, which enabled viewers to immerse themselves in that input all day long. Then the internet came along and enabled viewers to have more personal control over which combinations of sources and at which rates they could patronize each. All the while reducing our dependence on personal IRL interactions, which further limits our exposure to different opinions.

In that environment it's inevitable that some people are going to construct bubbles that are so warped as to completely isolate them from society at large. With predictable results.


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Originally Posted By: frvcvs
We're now more than a few decades into the internet and social media, are we better or worse for being able to anonymously hide behind the things we say online?

Hate speech has been normalized on the internet where there are little repercussions for our words. IMHO we have failed this grand experiment. I don't necessarily believe in censorship but I do believe that we've come to a turning point where we need to take stock in what this internet anonymity is doing to us as a society. Both here in the states and globally.


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