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Backyard/DIY guys: Whats harder, shaping or glassing? #2916923
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Been doing ding repair 40 yrs, but have never glassed a board start to finish. Finally shaped my first board under the guidance of an experienced shaper. It came out ok, I found getting the bottom quarter of the rails and the tuck the most challenging. Id like to try glassing a complete board next. To those that have both shaped and glassed, what so you find more challenging?

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Glassing by far.

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Glassing (i prefer it). It has more steps and techniques to master which could all F'up the end product. using a router, setting fins, laying/cutting cloth, taping laps, cutting laps, tints, wetting out cloth, wrapping noses and tails, cure times, ratios... you get it.

Ding repair would've taught you a lot of those. Glassing I found I have to be more patient, detail orientated, and scheduled. Also helps to be clean esp. with epoxy. Then the sanding is a whole new set of skills. Pretty sure you could do a decent job. When my buddies want to make a board with me it's always the glassing and sanding where they start to realize the amount of work/skill that goes into a board.

Not saying shaping isn't it's own magical art, but a bad shape could be glassed strong and beautiful, but a bad glass job can ruin magic stick.

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sanding is the hardest/worst part imo

(im about 200 boards deep)

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getting a perfect production quality shape is pretty hard to do
there is usually something off with most backyard handshapes
the pros spot them right away
but unless you've got hundred or thousands of shapes under your belt you most likely won't see them.
if you are scrubbing a file cut it's a little bit easier

the problem with glassing is the twisting and getting the right resin to glass ratio usually its too much resin or too little resin in the lam along with pin holes

sanding is a whole nother animal.

I started as a sander and pinliner and almost thought of making it a career out of high school but wised up and went to college.

Must have been the resin, gasoline and acetone fumes


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Shaping is way harder. How do you think a magic board is magic?

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Shaping is way harder. How do you think a magic board is magic?


by the sander not fooking it up.

and funny thing a lot of so called magic boards have twists or inaccuracies in them.

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To me glassing is easy but I've been doing it for 30 years this coming July since I shaped and glassed my first board in my parent's driveway. Funny thing is you can still see the outline of the board on my parent's driveway where the resin dripped off the rails. Dang my dad was pissed about that. I learned before there was an internet to hold people's hands.

Shaping is like a haircut. Its easy to cut it off but you can't put it back. Glassing is a snap.


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Originally Posted By: oneula
getting a perfect production quality shape is pretty hard to do
there is usually something off with most backyard handshapes
the pros spot them right away


You are spot on there. we have a few backyard shapers here but can never bring myself to order one. Buying a board from a big brand (lost, CI etc) has become the norm for most people.

The introduction of machines bought perfectly cut boards to the masses and people expect that precision as the norm... hence mine and others' reluctance to buy from backyard guys.

It's a bone of contention these days. Some argue we should stop buying imports and support local shapers, but if the product is inferior, it becomes a matter of principle over your desire to have a top quality board.

sorry. went way off topic again.

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Nothing's easy.

The bottom tuck is tricky because one bad pass of the planer or surform will totally change the rail's shape.

Doing smooth pin lines is really difficult. Takes a really good eye.

Glassing e-wings is tricky too.

Sanding bonzers is dangerous.

And try getting a gloss with epoxy.

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Shaping, glassing, sanding all have their challenges. For me, shaping seems to be the most difficult to replicate, outside of a machine shape.
For you slopokecr, with experience doing ding repairs, i'd think that the glassing portion would be easy to figure out.

Now sanding, as some have suggested, could very well be the hardest part of them all!

Realistically though, within each stage of building a surfboard, consistancy and knowledge of all tools of the trade is where things get difficult. The more time you put in the better things will get!

Most shapers I know have gotten their shaping start thru the glassing/ding repair trade, with the exception of some.
It still amazes me that some shapers don't even know how to glass a board.......

Shaping has always been the shining star of the surfboard industry, however, the GLASSING part of the industry really is the unsung hero behind the scenes!

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Everything after the shaping process are the things I enjoy the most. Setting fins and fin boxes, glassing, sanding and finishing are the strongest parts of my game. Enjoy making fins too.


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It's interesting to hear that sanding is one of the hardest (and most important) jobs in board building when you simultaneously hear that it is an "entry level" position at a glass shop. thought


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Funny stuff huh
setting fins is super important too


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Originally Posted By: jkb
It's interesting to hear that sanding is one of the hardest (and most important) jobs in board building when you simultaneously hear that it is an "entry level" position at a glass shop. thought


Was thinking the same. There are so many opportunities to mess a board up. The more hands that touch the board the more chance for mistakes and incompetence

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It's interesting to hear that sanding is one of the hardest (and most important) jobs in board building when you simultaneously hear that it is an "entry level" position at a glass shop. thought


its the shittest job, no one at the top of the food chain wants to do it. dusty, sweaty, itchy.

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Glassing.
Including sanding.

I am 25ish boards deep.

It's all totally doable though. Tons of info here and on Swaylocks.
Every conceivable mess-up has been discussed 100 times.

Keep it simple to start.
Once you're comfortable then you can start adding other variables.

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It's all good when everything comes together. Nowadays I really look forward to putting a skin on my shapes. The hard part for me is getting things done to where I think it's 'good enough'


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It's interesting to hear that sanding is one of the hardest (and most important) jobs in board building when you simultaneously hear that it is an "entry level" position at a glass shop. thought


its the shittest job, no one at the top of the food chain wants to do it. dusty, sweaty, itchy.


As a backyarder, the sanding segment of board building is not the best part of the whole deal to me either. It's almost like it's the last couple hours of work separating/keeping you from enjoying your creation. I have the luxury to do the low grits/rough part of sanding outside in the wind, then move inside my shed for the higher grits to finish it. It really shouldn't be itchy unless you are sanding fiberglass for some reason.


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Originally Posted By: Bud
It really shouldn't be itchy unless you are sanding fiberglass for some reason.


This ^^^^^^^^^. Making fins can get itchy but sanding boards really shouldn't. A nice tight lam job and you should barely be sanding into any of the cloth. Boat work where you are really sanding glass or installing insulation in a house......now you're talking itchy.......if you've ever done either you know what I'm talking about. Sanding laps and hot coats.......not so much.

Like most tasks, having the right tools for the job make all the difference in the world. I wasn't a big fan of sanding boards either until I invested in the right sanding pads for the job. At minimum you should have a Medium and a Soft flexpad on a variable speed sander. Its easy when you have the right tools and have a few boards under your belt using them.


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Shaping is easier to fake with close tolerance blanks. But a good board is hard.

Simple e-glass, no tint , and GAS Fusion on fins, so it's the shapers problem. Is medium hard.

Artsy gassing is harder.

Composite, vacuum bagging glassing is a whole nother thing.

This board is about as hard as it gets for glassing.


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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
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It really shouldn't be itchy unless you are sanding fiberglass for some reason.


This ^^^^^^^^^. Making fins can get itchy but sanding boards really shouldn't. A nice tight lam job and you should barely be sanding into any of the cloth. Boat work where you are really sanding glass or installing insulation in a house......now you're talking itchy.......if you've ever done either you know what I'm talking about. Sanding laps and hot coats.......not so much.

Like most tasks, having the right tools for the job make all the difference in the world. I wasn't a big fan of sanding boards either until I invested in the right sanding pads for the job. At minimum you should have a Medium and a Soft flexpad on a variable speed sander. Its easy when you have the right tools and have a few boards under your belt using them.

This, and if you can pick up on eBay a Porter Cable 505 half sheet finishing sander.
Use the disk polisher first, and then follow each grit with the 505 at the same grit as the polisher. It gets rid of all the scratches/ swirls that the disk polisher makes


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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
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It really shouldn't be itchy unless you are sanding fiberglass for some reason.


This ^^^^^^^^^. Making fins can get itchy but sanding boards really shouldn't. A nice tight lam job and you should barely be sanding into any of the cloth. Boat work where you are really sanding glass or installing insulation in a house......now you're talking itchy.......if you've ever done either you know what I'm talking about. Sanding laps and hot coats.......not so much.


My first job out of high school was at a custom boat builder (Dencho Marine, Dennis Choate was also a respected surfboard shaper). I had been making surfboards throughout my high school years so I had experience glassing. Well, my first job at my first job was to crawl to the very back of a 40 foot racing sailboat and glass a "man overboard tube" onto the transom. This was in the summer and the boat was sitting in the sun in Long Beach California. There was a tiny space behind the last bulkhead with no ventilation except the hole I was about to close. I would guesstimate the temp was about 120 degrees. I had to work upside down with resin dripping down my arms. Later in the day I had to crawl back into the hole and sand the edges of the glass. I think Dennis was testing me to see if I was really willing to work. Pure hell. If you work with boats you will have an idea.

Sanding surfboards is a walk in the park.


I actually found a photo online of a choate 40's transom and man overboard tube.



p.s. While doing a search of "Choate 40". I found a listing of the first boat I did wood work on. Held value pretty good considering it's 40 years old-

https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/70084

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Not related but related my uncle has a beach house in Rosario with fiberglass outdoor furniture. You will itch and get a rash sitting on those fuckers

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Not related but related my uncle has a beach house in Rosario with fiberglass outdoor furniture. You will itch and get a rash sitting on those fuckers


My first boat as a teenager was a fiberglass Sears Gamefisher. Same thing. You could actually see the fibers glistening in the sun on the surface.


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Originally Posted By: patrolman
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It really shouldn't be itchy unless you are sanding fiberglass for some reason.


This ^^^^^^^^^. Making fins can get itchy but sanding boards really shouldn't. A nice tight lam job and you should barely be sanding into any of the cloth. Boat work where you are really sanding glass or installing insulation in a house......now you're talking itchy.......if you've ever done either you know what I'm talking about. Sanding laps and hot coats.......not so much.


My first job out of high school was at a custom boat builder (Dencho Marine, Dennis Choate was also a respected surfboard shaper). I had been making surfboards throughout my high school years so I had experience glassing. Well, my first job at my first job was to crawl to the very back of a 40 foot racing sailboat and glass a "man overboard tube" onto the transom. This was in the summer and the boat was sitting in the sun in Long Beach California. There was a tiny space behind the last bulkhead with no ventilation except the hole I was about to close. I would guesstimate the temp was about 120 degrees. I had to work upside down with resin dripping down my arms. Later in the day I had to crawl back into the hole and sand the edges of the glass. I think Dennis was testing me to see if I was really willing to work. Pure hell. If you work with boats you will have an idea.

Sanding surfboards is a walk in the park.


I actually found a photo online of a choate 40's transom and man overboard tube.



p.s. While doing a search of "Choate 40". I found a listing of the first boat I did wood work on. Held value pretty good considering it's 40 years old-

https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/70084


What is a man overboard tube? Google wasn't much help.


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It really shouldn't be itchy unless you are sanding fiberglass for some reason.


This ^^^^^^^^^. Making fins can get itchy but sanding boards really shouldn't. A nice tight lam job and you should barely be sanding into any of the cloth. Boat work where you are really sanding glass or installing insulation in a house......now you're talking itchy.......if you've ever done either you know what I'm talking about. Sanding laps and hot coats.......not so much.


My first job out of high school was at a custom boat builder (Dencho Marine, Dennis Choate was also a respected surfboard shaper). I had been making surfboards throughout my high school years so I had experience glassing. Well, my first job at my first job was to crawl to the very back of a 40 foot racing sailboat and glass a "man overboard tube" onto the transom. This was in the summer and the boat was sitting in the sun in Long Beach California. There was a tiny space behind the last bulkhead with no ventilation except the hole I was about to close. I would guesstimate the temp was about 120 degrees. I had to work upside down with resin dripping down my arms. Later in the day I had to crawl back into the hole and sand the edges of the glass. I think Dennis was testing me to see if I was really willing to work. Pure hell. If you work with boats you will have an idea.

Sanding surfboards is a walk in the park.


I actually found a photo online of a choate 40's transom and man overboard tube.



p.s. While doing a search of "Choate 40". I found a listing of the first boat I did wood work on. Held value pretty good considering it's 40 years old-

https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/70084


What is a man overboard tube? Google wasn't much help.






Horseshoe life ring mounted on the stern pulpit. When you throw it overboard it pulls the pole out of the tube. The pole serves to locate crew member when there is swell/waves.

I remember being told not to get piss on the whistle when peeing off the transom.

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It really shouldn't be itchy unless you are sanding fiberglass for some reason.


epoxy dust makes my fingers and toes itchy. not talking a full body rash or anything. but enough to be annoying.

Re: Backyard/DIY guys: Whats harder, shaping or glassing? [Re: toddo] #2918912
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Originally Posted By: toddo
Originally Posted By: Bud


It really shouldn't be itchy unless you are sanding fiberglass for some reason.


epoxy dust makes my fingers and toes itchy. not talking a full body rash or anything. but enough to be annoying.


When I work with epoxy the skin around my fingernails will get inflamed for a day or two. Minor but its just enough to be bothersome. That's an epoxy allergy /sensitivity and some people get it to the point that they can't get near the stuff at all.


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