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Re: Another mass shooting....Yawn. [Re: frvcvs] #2914570
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What I'm saying is this "crisis" is not going to be stopped by making things that are already illegal more illegal or something.

I have no idea what else you're trying to ilk-gotcha me on.


They're not illegal. The system failed. This man wasn't supposed to legally purchase a gun and he was able to. He walked across state lines, applied for a firearm permit, bought a gun and went home. Only after he applied for a concealed carry permit did his record come up with law enforcement and all they did was send him a fvcking letter asking him to voluntarily turn over his weapon. Now innocent people are dead. Yes, he could have committed the same crime with an illegally purchased weapon, our system just made it easier for him so he didn't have to.

Or he could have done it with a legally purchased firearm if he wasn't already barred from holding one.

The laws are already in place, there is no system failure here. The only failure is this guy's mind

BTW where are you finding he wasn't allowed to hold a gun?


Martin was not supposed to own a gun because of a 1995 aggravated assault conviction in Mississippi, she said.
But he obtained one in Illinois in 2014. In January of that year, he applied for a firearms owner identification card, she said.
In March 2014, he applied to buy a gun from a dealer in Aurora. After a waiting period and passing a background check that did not involve fingerprinting, he bought the gun, she said.
Later that month, he applied for a concealed carry permit, and a fingerprint check led authorities to discover the Mississippi conviction, Ziman said.
The permit was rejected, and Illinois State Police sent him a letter demanding he voluntarily surrender the weapon, but he did not, the chief said. Investigators are trying to determine why he didn't surrender the weapon and whether law enforcement followed up with him to confiscate the gun.
"He was not supposed to be in possession of a firearm," Ziman said.


https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/16/us/illinois-aurora-shooting/index.html

Probably just fake news since it's not on Breitbart. rolleyes


Sent him a letter?

roflmao

Felon in possession of a firearm and they sent him a letter. They should have notified him on Facebook.

How fvckin stupid is that?


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Re: Another mass shooting....Yawn. [Re: FecalFace] #2914572
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Its a very valid argument. The illegality of getting a firearm off the street is a deterrent to an extent.


Not to mention a natural cooling off period.

Where would one even go to buy a gun, Craigslist?

Unless you're already a criminal, buying a gun on the street is next to impossible.


Not.


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Re: Another mass shooting....Yawn. [Re: ElOgro] #2914578
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Originally Posted By: ElOgro
Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
What I'm saying is this "crisis" is not going to be stopped by making things that are already illegal more illegal or something.

I have no idea what else you're trying to ilk-gotcha me on.


They're not illegal. The system failed. This man wasn't supposed to legally purchase a gun and he was able to. He walked across state lines, applied for a firearm permit, bought a gun and went home. Only after he applied for a concealed carry permit did his record come up with law enforcement and all they did was send him a fvcking letter asking him to voluntarily turn over his weapon. Now innocent people are dead. Yes, he could have committed the same crime with an illegally purchased weapon, our system just made it easier for him so he didn't have to.

Or he could have done it with a legally purchased firearm if he wasn't already barred from holding one.

The laws are already in place, there is no system failure here. The only failure is this guy's mind

BTW where are you finding he wasn't allowed to hold a gun?


Martin was not supposed to own a gun because of a 1995 aggravated assault conviction in Mississippi, she said.
But he obtained one in Illinois in 2014. In January of that year, he applied for a firearms owner identification card, she said.
In March 2014, he applied to buy a gun from a dealer in Aurora. After a waiting period and passing a background check that did not involve fingerprinting, he bought the gun, she said.
Later that month, he applied for a concealed carry permit, and a fingerprint check led authorities to discover the Mississippi conviction, Ziman said.
The permit was rejected, and Illinois State Police sent him a letter demanding he voluntarily surrender the weapon, but he did not, the chief said. Investigators are trying to determine why he didn't surrender the weapon and whether law enforcement followed up with him to confiscate the gun.
"He was not supposed to be in possession of a firearm," Ziman said.


https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/16/us/illinois-aurora-shooting/index.html

Probably just fake news since it's not on Breitbart. rolleyes


Sent him a letter?

roflmao

Felon in possession of a firearm and they sent him a letter. They should have notified him on Facebook.

How fvckin stupid is that?


Letters are very effective weapons when used correctly.


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Re: Another mass shooting....Yawn. [Re: Autoprax] #2914589
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Letters are very effective weapons when used correctly.


Fair point. cheers

This one worked like a charm!



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Re: Another mass shooting....Yawn. [Re: sizzld1] #2914613
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Re: Another mass shooting....Yawn. [Re: GromsDad] #2914615
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How many 5yr olds do you think you can kill armed only with an iPhone?


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Re: Another mass shooting....Yawn. [Re: sizzld1] #2914618
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If you don't get the point of that.....I can't help you.


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Re: Another mass shooting....Yawn. [Re: frvcvs] #2914620
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How many 5yr olds do you think you can kill armed only with an iPhone?
Planned Parenthood whacks around 900 8 month old kids/day. I don't know how many iPhone's they have. I think they use knives.


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Re: Another mass shooting....Yawn. [Re: GromsDad] #2914621
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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
frvcvs,

If you don't get the point of that.....I can't help you.

Its an idiotic meme. Cell phones barely existed at the time of columbine. Plenty of school shootings followed when cell phones were still not common when kids were growing up, let alone smart phones. Nice try at deflecting though trout


You forgot it was STOLEN?!
Re: Another mass shooting....Yawn. [Re: grapedrink] #2914633
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That meme is also completely irrelevant to the incident and many others that are similar.

Re: Another mass shooting....Yawn. [Re: CharmingSophisticate] #2914637
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Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: frvcvs
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How many 5yr olds do you think you can kill armed only with an iPhone?
Planned Parenthood whacks around 900 8 month old kids/day. I don't know how many iPhone's they have. I think they use knives.


No doubt.

Death is offered up on a daily basis on TV.

My neighbors kid.

We call him Columbine Jr.

His parents go to sleep, he breaks into the game cabinet and kills the universe until dawn. Puts it away a 1/2 hour before he gets caught.

He might make a great military drone pilot. If they catch him in time.

He is not human.

Re: Another mass shooting....Yawn. [Re: sizzld1] #2914657
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roflmao drowning


You forgot it was STOLEN?!
Re: Another mass shooting....Yawn. [Re: sizzld1] #2914699
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correlation = causation.


A threat response is a potent trigger for motivated reasoning.

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