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Re: Your step ups, semi guns, and guns (photo thread) [Re: 20W-50 and blood] #2908226
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Originally Posted By: 20W-50 and blood
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My new custom semi-step up:

5'10 x 20 x 2 1/2 with tapered rails

Pure sex





Fairly fresh so I haven't put her through the paces yet...but I will.

applause

i actually think my handplane has more volume.


Hehe...

Jokes aside, though, what waves would you ride a 5'10 x 20 'step up' in? Board looks nice, but I'm thoroughly confused.

Re: Your step ups, semi guns, and guns (photo thread) [Re: CCKeith] #2908238
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But this one, it has a round tail. roflmao

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Re: Your step ups, semi guns, and guns (photo thread) [Re: sd_101] #2908244
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I hear what your guys are saying but to each his own. My buddy rides a 5'8" psycho killer up to head and a half... and does it well.

But I dig that outline.


"The size / dimensions don't matter. What does matter is that it's flammable. Because you should set it on fire and get a real surfboard" Witchipoo
Re: Your step ups, semi guns, and guns (photo thread) [Re: silentbutdeadly] #2908245
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Originally Posted By: silentbutdeadly
I hear what your guys are saying but to each his own. My buddy rides a 5'8" psycho killer up to head and a half... and does it well.

But I dig that outline.

its all good....we dont discriminate against yellow brick road citizens around here!

Re: Your step ups, semi guns, and guns (photo thread) [Re: CCKeith] #2914588
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going back to the swallow v round tail discussion a few pages back, Murray Burton has an interesting view on it here:

https://www.bourtonshapes.com/the-reef-swallow/

Re: Your step ups, semi guns, and guns (photo thread) [Re: CCKeith] #2914598
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Top row (L-R):
10'2" BARK gun (thruster)
10'0" Hess gun (quad)
7'2" Pavel/Hess semi-gun (bonzer)
6'8" Hess step-up (quad)



Bottom (top/bottom):
6'4" CI MBM 6-channel (retired thruster - just keep it for the memories and looks)
6'1" Tomo V-4 Step up (I ride it as a thruster)


Re: Your step ups, semi guns, and guns (photo thread) [Re: Maz] #2914609
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Originally Posted By: Maz
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Hehe...

Jokes aside, though, what waves would you ride a 5'10 x 20 'step up' in? Board looks nice, but I'm thoroughly confused.



Not my board you are referring to, but that's an interesting discussion point. The pros have been sending the size of step-ups down. I think Kelly Slater played a big part in that trend. Take a look at the JS team's Tahiti quivers. The round pin step ups range from about 6' to 6' 6" max.


https://www.jsindustries.com/blog/traktor-team-tahiti-quivers/

Anyone here been influenced by the trend to go shorter with their step ups? I will admit I have, but as I mentioned some posts back I've lost my appetite for chasing waves where I need a 7+ gun.

There was a podcast posted by Pyzel on these pages a while back where he explained the pros like to use the minimum amount of board, whereas the ordinary surfer would be better off with extra board size. Rob Bain's recent podcast is also of that opinion http://surfmastery.com/podcast/034-rob-bain - in about the middle he starts to get into that subject and explains that an ordinary surfer of say Julian Wilson's size should not be on the same board dimensions.

So I am not saying that we should be attempting to match the pros, instead I could say that I've lowered my standard for what I deem to be a step up wave laugh My step ups start from 5' 8" for well overhead.

Re: Your step ups, semi guns, and guns (photo thread) [Re: CCKeith] #2914619
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In regard to the boards that average punters choose to ride I was disappointed that Bain didn't come out and say which ones he thought were shite!


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Re: Your step ups, semi guns, and guns (photo thread) [Re: Retropete] #2914623
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Originally Posted By: Retropete
In regard to the boards that average punters choose to ride I was disappointed that Bain didn't come out and say which ones he thought were shite!


oh yes! Rob Bain had two quite distinct points to make about unsuitable boards:
1. The one I mentioned - trying to ride pro dimensions when intermediate.
2. Being sucked into the marketing hype which manufacturers prop up certain designs that are just plain shite and not good for anyone!

Re: Your step ups, semi guns, and guns (photo thread) [Re: Mr J] #2914624
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Originally Posted By: Mr J
Originally Posted By: Maz
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Hehe...

Jokes aside, though, what waves would you ride a 5'10 x 20 'step up' in? Board looks nice, but I'm thoroughly confused.



Not my board you are referring to, but that's an interesting discussion point. The pros have been sending the size of step-ups down. I think Kelly Slater played a big part in that trend. Take a look at the JS team's Tahiti quivers. The round pin step ups range from about 6' to 6' 6" max.


https://www.jsindustries.com/blog/traktor-team-tahiti-quivers/

Anyone here been influenced by the trend to go shorter with their step ups? I will admit I have, but as I mentioned some posts back I've lost my appetite for chasing waves where I need a 7+ gun.

There was a podcast posted by Pyzel on these pages a while back where he explained the pros like to use the minimum amount of board, whereas the ordinary surfer would be better off with extra board size. Rob Bain's recent podcast is also of that opinion http://surfmastery.com/podcast/034-rob-bain - in about the middle he starts to get into that subject and explains that an ordinary surfer of say Julian Wilson's size should not be on the same board dimensions.

So I am not saying that we should be attempting to match the pros, instead I could say that I've lowered my standard for what I deem to be a step up wave laugh My step ups start from 5' 8" for well overhead.



Yep, lots of people riding short'ish boards, but 20" wide? 5'10 x 20" sounds very skatey to me, and with a lot of curve in the outline, that's what I meant.

Re: Your step ups, semi guns, and guns (photo thread) [Re: sh3] #2914654
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Are you kidding me with those Hess socrazy

Re: Your step ups, semi guns, and guns (photo thread) [Re: manbearpig] #2914655
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Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Are you kidding me with those Hess socrazy


Yes. That 10'0 looks insane. How wide is it? Looks like a spear!

Re: Your step ups, semi guns, and guns (photo thread) [Re: toddo] #2914656
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Originally Posted By: toddo
going back to the swallow v round tail discussion a few pages back, Murray Burton has an interesting view on it here:

https://www.bourtonshapes.com/the-reef-swallow/

Good read beer I've always enjoyed swallow tails on my step-ups and dug the "bite" in more powerful waves, although in fairness I've only had one round pin step-up.

In terms of Stretch's comments regarding round pin vs everything else, I do recall him saying that, but was that in the context of Quads specifically or was that regardless of fin set up shrug


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Re: Your step ups, semi guns, and guns (photo thread) [Re: Maz] #2914660
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Originally Posted By: Maz
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Yep, lots of people riding short'ish boards, but 20" wide? 5'10 x 20" sounds very skatey to me, and with a lot of curve in the outline, that's what I meant.


That's true, 20" is wide. The Pyzel Ghost is described as a ride 1/4" to 1/2" wider than your normal board, but the stock 5' 10" is 19".

Some interesting thoughts from Pyzel on board width in his podcast https://stabmag.com/stabfm/listento-two-time-stab-in-the-dark-winner-jon-pyzels-new-podcast/

He reckons taller surfers need more width to give their higher centre of gravity more stability and stockier surfers can go a bit narrower and add some thickness to give the necessary volume. He does give a bit more info than that so anyone interested should listen to the podcast - I might have missed something important out.

Myself, most stock boards in the length I want are too wide, I'm short and skinny, just plain small laugh I put down my preference for narrower boards to be related to my smallish feet, plus small people tend to like a bit of extra length. I suppose foot size does tend to be proportional to height, so a tall person would typically have big feet which would allow them to get some decent toe/heel leverage on a wider board.

redrider (owner of the board being discussed) , what do your HP and stubby boards look like?

Re: Your step ups, semi guns, and guns (photo thread) [Re: CCKeith] #2915485
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Does anyone here use epoxy for a gun in the 7'6"-8'0" range?

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