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Re: The Failed Coup [Re: StuAzole] #2913936
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Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
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From what I can tell, a bunch of people worries about Trump's mental capacity sat around and discussed their options under an Amendment to the Constitution and decided not to do anything.

The word "coup" means something.



They went way beyond merely having a casual conversation. They engaged in surveillance, leaking info to the press to damage the president and ultimately launching investigations seeking to oust the president and to provide themselves cover for their treachery.


Originally Posted By: Autoprax
One of the ways grossfatdad trolls is mischaracterization.

I think he doesn't it automatically.


Link?

Because what you've posted in opinion - and it's opinion who insist that the Mueller investigation has come up fruitless before Mueller is even done.

Regardless, the word "coup" means something. What you describe, even if true, isn't it.


"Any Justice Department official who even mentioned the 25th amendment in the context of President Trump has committed a grievous offense against the Constitution. The framers had in mind something very specific, and trying to use the 25th amendment to circumvent impeachment provisions or to circumvent an election is a despicable act of unconstitutional power-grabbing."

Alan Dershowitz


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Re: The Failed Coup [Re: GromsDad] #2913938
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If [McCabes comments are] true, it is clearly an attempt at a coup dtat.

Alan Dershowitz


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Re: The Failed Coup [Re: casa_mugrienta] #2913939
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Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
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The word "coup" means something.



lol

silent coup


It's one thing to repeatedly tell us what Trump "really meant" but now you're doing it for GromsDad too?

Also, the term "silent coup" means something. This isn't it.


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Re: The Failed Coup [Re: GromsDad] #2913942
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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
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Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
From what I can tell, a bunch of people worries about Trump's mental capacity sat around and discussed their options under an Amendment to the Constitution and decided not to do anything.

The word "coup" means something.



They went way beyond merely having a casual conversation. They engaged in surveillance, leaking info to the press to damage the president and ultimately launching investigations seeking to oust the president and to provide themselves cover for their treachery.


Originally Posted By: Autoprax
One of the ways grossfatdad trolls is mischaracterization.

I think he doesn't it automatically.


Link?

Because what you've posted in opinion - and it's opinion who insist that the Mueller investigation has come up fruitless before Mueller is even done.

Regardless, the word "coup" means something. What you describe, even if true, isn't it.


"Any Justice Department official who even mentioned the 25th amendment in the context of President Trump has committed a grievous offense against the Constitution. The framers had in mind something very specific, and trying to use the 25th amendment to circumvent impeachment provisions or to circumvent an election is a despicable act of unconstitutional power-grabbing."

Alan Dershowitz


The 25th Amendment was ratified in the 1960's. I don't know, but I'm guessing the framers' intent was given consideration then.


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Re: The Failed Coup [Re: GromsDad] #2913943
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Sizz,

You keep saying that in direct contrast to the words of Constitutional Scholar Alan Dershowitz yet you make no attempt to refute his words.....why is that?


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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Sizz,

You keep saying that in direct contrast to the words of Constitutional Scholar Alan Dershowitz yet you make no attempt to refute his words.....why is that?


It's his opinion. He's given no legal citation to refute. I'd love to see the court holdings that demonstrate the 25th Amendment is illegal, or that discussing the use of the 25th Amendment is criminal.


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Re: The Failed Coup [Re: StuAzole] #2913950
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Originally Posted By: StuAzole
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Sizz,

You keep saying that in direct contrast to the words of Constitutional Scholar Alan Dershowitz yet you make no attempt to refute his words.....why is that?


It's his opinion. He's given no legal citation to refute. I'd love to see the court holdings that demonstrate the 25th Amendment is illegal, or that discussing the use of the 25th Amendment is criminal.


Once again, they went way beyond merely having a casual conversation. They engaged in surveillance, leaking info to the press to damage the president and ultimately launching investigations seeking to oust the president and to provide themselves cover for their treachery. Absolutely a coup.


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Re: The Failed Coup [Re: StuAzole] #2913954
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Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
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The word "coup" means something.



lol

silent coup


It's one thing to repeatedly tell us what Trump "really meant" but now you're doing it for GromsDad too?

Also, the term "silent coup" means something. This isn't it.


A silent coup means a variety of things.

Just a coup without violence in general.

The goal was to oust a democratically elected president from office because he is their political enemy.

They didn't need to depose the entire party, just depose the outsider president.


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Re: The Failed Coup [Re: GromsDad] #2913958
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These assholes support the coup because bad orangeman.


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Re: The Failed Coup [Re: casa_mugrienta] #2913959
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Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: StuAzole


The word "coup" means something.



lol

silent coup
The man is mentally unfit to serve, and the constitutional remedy was talked about to remove him.

It's one thing to repeatedly tell us what Trump "really meant" but now you're doing it for GromsDad too?

Also, the term "silent coup" means something. This isn't it.


A silent coup means a variety of things.

Just a coup without violence in general.

The goal was to oust a democratically elected president from office because he is their political enemy.

They didn't need to depose the entire party, just depose the outsider president.

Re: The Failed Coup [Re: GromsDad] #2913962
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Trump is mentally unfit to serve, and a constitutional remedy was explored to remove. It wasn't used to because are to cowardly to do what is right for the country.

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Originally Posted By: StuAzole
From what I can tell, a bunch of people worried about Trump's mental capacity sat around and discussed their options under an Amendment to the Constitution and decided not to do anything.

The word "coup" means something.


So does the word "planned"


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Trump is mentally unfit to serve, and a constitutional remedy was explored to remove. It wasn't used to because are to cowardly to do what is right for the country.
roflmao


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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Sizz,

You keep saying that in direct contrast to the words of Constitutional Scholar Alan Dershowitz yet you make no attempt to refute his words.....why is that?


It's his opinion. He's given no legal citation to refute. I'd love to see the court holdings that demonstrate the 25th Amendment is illegal, or that discussing the use of the 25th Amendment is criminal.



Dershowitz is a Fox News gasbag talking out of his ass. Happy now?

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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Sizz,

You keep saying that in direct contrast to the words of Constitutional Scholar Alan Dershowitz yet you make no attempt to refute his words.....why is that?
Is Deshowitz the final word on the constitution? Don't forget he defended Oj.

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