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Re: NATIONAL EMERGENCY!!!! [Re: GDaddy] #2913600
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Originally Posted By: GDaddy
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The existing barriers have some contributory effect when present, so there's no reason to build more barriers?

Great logic.


A smart guy like you must know about the law of diminishing returns, no?

On the same topic, we could end violence in the middle east with a bunch of nukes, but we don't. Why?


If the opposition to the wall was only about its costs the discussion would be a lot different. But that's not who the wall's opponents are nor is it what their arguments are about. Not in any way, shape or form.


That's not true.

Many (D) have said yes to more strategic fencing and other methods of better enforcing the border in the past. But nobody, not even most of Trump's supporters, have adequately explained how "the Wall" is at all necessary or cost effective.


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Re: NATIONAL EMERGENCY!!!! [Re: frvcvs] #2913603
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Remember how the Turtle used to scream about how Obama was an unconstitutional tyrant?

Re: NATIONAL EMERGENCY!!!! [Re: StuAzole] #2913604
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I daresay a lot of wall fans DGAF about the costs, nor are they thinking in either-or terms or limiting their concerns to merely keeping illegals out.

With that said, I personally disagree with invoking an EA on this. If he can't get it done through normal channels then it shouldn't get done.

Re: NATIONAL EMERGENCY!!!! [Re: GDaddy] #2913606
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Originally Posted By: GDaddy
I daresay a lot of wall fans DGAF about the costs, nor are they thinking in either-or terms or limiting their concerns to merely keeping illegals out.

With that said, I personally disagree with invoking an EA on this. If he can't get it done through normal channels then it shouldn't get done.


Your president doesnt give a crap. Hes a dick.


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Re: NATIONAL EMERGENCY!!!! [Re: 1whoknows] #2913611
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He sure is. Orange Man bad.

Re: NATIONAL EMERGENCY!!!! [Re: GromsDad] #2913613
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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
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Wait, why arent the constitutional originalists upset about this? Is it only gubmint tyranny when a democrat abused executive powers?


Its just too enjoyable right now to watch your heads explode over what could even be fake news for all we know.


Grommy: Trump could ream you with a golf club, tell you it never happened ("fake news!"), and you'd walk around with a smile on your face and a 3 iron up your ass.

Re: NATIONAL EMERGENCY!!!! [Re: GDaddy] #2913615
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He sure is. Orange Man bad.
No doubt. Well stated. Orange man bad. Orange man needs to be removed. Never meant to be president from the beginning. A PR stunt gone awry. Do any republicans have any decency? Any balls?

Re: NATIONAL EMERGENCY!!!! [Re: 1whoknows] #2913617
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Originally Posted By: 1whoknows
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
I daresay a lot of wall fans DGAF about the costs, nor are they thinking in either-or terms or limiting their concerns to merely keeping illegals out.

With that said, I personally disagree with invoking an EA on this. If he can't get it done through normal channels then it shouldn't get done.


Your president doesnt give a crap. Hes a dick.
He's pulling a Barry Obama move for sure.

You gotta give The Donald credit for sticking with the precedent set by the previous administration.


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Re: NATIONAL EMERGENCY!!!! [Re: CharmingSophisticate] #2913618
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Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
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I daresay a lot of wall fans DGAF about the costs, nor are they thinking in either-or terms or limiting their concerns to merely keeping illegals out.

With that said, I personally disagree with invoking an EA on this. If he can't get it done through normal channels then it shouldn't get done.


Your president doesnt give a crap. Hes a dick.
He's pulling a Barry Obama move for sure.

You gotta give The Donald credit for sticking with the precedent set by the previous administration.


I don't agree. What did Obama do that's comparable to this?

Re: NATIONAL EMERGENCY!!!! [Re: Uberkuque] #2913619
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Originally Posted By: Uberkuque
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: hal9000
Wait, why arent the constitutional originalists upset about this? Is it only gubmint tyranny when a democrat abused executive powers?


Its just too enjoyable right now to watch your heads explode over what could even be fake news for all we know.


Grommy: Trump could ream you with a golf club, tell you it never happened ("fake news!"), and you'd walk around with a smile on your face and a 3 iron up your ass.


Glad this turned out not to be fake news. Bottom line, he ran on border security. He gave the democrats and squishy repubs every opportunity to do the right thing for the American people. They refused and continued to play games. That forced him to do this. I'm glad to see a president do the right thing for the American people and actually make every attempt to follow through on the promises made to get elected.

I won't be surprised if his poll numbers go up as a result of this.


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Re: NATIONAL EMERGENCY!!!! [Re: Uberkuque] #2913620
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Originally Posted By: Uberkuque
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: 1whoknows
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
I daresay a lot of wall fans DGAF about the costs, nor are they thinking in either-or terms or limiting their concerns to merely keeping illegals out.

With that said, I personally disagree with invoking an EA on this. If he can't get it done through normal channels then it shouldn't get done.


Your president doesnt give a crap. Hes a dick.
He's pulling a Barry Obama move for sure.

You gotta give The Donald credit for sticking with the precedent set by the previous administration.


I don't agree. What did Obama do that's comparable to this?


You want a list of Obama executive orders?


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Re: NATIONAL EMERGENCY!!!! [Re: frvcvs] #2913624
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It always amazes me that conservatives want to throw more money at failed policies like the War on Drugs, the War on Terrorism, immigration, and "nation building", but want to cut programs that have shown at least moderate degrees of success, like education, social security, infrastructure, and medicare.


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Originally Posted By: GDaddy
I daresay a lot of wall fans DGAF, nor are they thinking.


Re: NATIONAL EMERGENCY!!!! [Re: GromsDad] #2913626
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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: Uberkuque
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: 1whoknows
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
I daresay a lot of wall fans DGAF about the costs, nor are they thinking in either-or terms or limiting their concerns to merely keeping illegals out.

With that said, I personally disagree with invoking an EA on this. If he can't get it done through normal channels then it shouldn't get done.


Your president doesnt give a crap. Hes a dick.
He's pulling a Barry Obama move for sure.

You gotta give The Donald credit for sticking with the precedent set by the previous administration.


I don't agree. What did Obama do that's comparable to this?


You want a list of Obama executive orders?



I don't recall you guys calling out Barry for this level of abuse of executive power.


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Re: NATIONAL EMERGENCY!!!! [Re: 1whoknows] #2913627
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Originally Posted By: 1whoknows
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He sure is. Orange Man bad.
No doubt. Well stated. Orange man bad. Orange man needs to be removed. Never meant to be president from the beginning. A PR stunt gone awry. Do any republicans have any decency? Any balls?


You mean the balls it took to tell the left to GFY?

As I see it, the problem is the right has been doing it inefficiently. Too little, too late. They're playing catch-up to the same game the left has been playing for years and in their haste they're making some unforced errors.


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