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Re: Anyone ever report a contractor to CSLB [Re: Mr Doof] #2943622
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Quick update:

1 Work on the arch under the Spanish C-tile in full bloom this AM
2 Handed over check for scaffolding rental
3 Handed over check for $5000 as first tranche on repair work for item 1.
4 Got into pissing match on email yesterday about payments being tied to work done versus arbitrary dates. In a late night email to me, they more or less said 'pay up or we walk, you choice'. As you can guess, threatening abandonment is also not kosher with CSLB. And all this because somehow they read this section of the Contractor code different than I.


(8) If a downpayment will be charged, the details of the downpayment shall be expressed in substantially the following form, and shall include the text of the notice as specified in subparagraph (C):
(A) The heading: “Downpayment.”
(B) A space where the actual downpayment appears.
(C) The following statement in at least 12-point boldface type:
“THE DOWNPAYMENT MAY NOT EXCEED $1,000 OR 10 PERCENT OF THE CONTRACT PRICE, WHICHEVER IS LESS.”

9) If payments, other than the downpayment, are to be made before the project is completed, the details of these payments, known as progress payments, shall be expressed in substantially the following form, and shall include the text of the statement as specified in subparagraph (C):
(A) A schedule of progress payments shall be preceded by the heading: “Schedule of Progress Payments.”
(B) Each progress payment shall be stated in dollars and cents and specifically reference the amount of work or services to be performed and materials and equipment to be supplied.
(C) The section of the contract reserved for the progress payments shall include the following statement in at least 12-point boldface type:
“The schedule of progress payments must specifically describe each phase of work, including the type and amount of work or services scheduled to be supplied in each phase, along with the amount of each proposed progress payment. IT IS AGAINST THE LAW FOR A CONTRACTOR TO COLLECT PAYMENT FOR WORK NOT YET COMPLETED, OR FOR MATERIALS NOT YET DELIVERED. HOWEVER, A CONTRACTOR MAY REQUIRE A DOWNPAYMENT.”

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Re: Anyone ever report a contractor to CSLB [Re: Mr Doof] #2952287
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Ok, last of the stucco was applied yesterday and they replaced 4 of the Spanish "C-tiles" that are on the roofline near the arch.

Work completed only 8 days after their original 'end of work date and same day they email me an invoice for more than the contractually agreed price and that they'll be by in the morning (today, the 9th) to pick it up.

So last night, email them back asking:

1 why the invoice is more than the agreed amount

2 about the missing battery they accidentally took from our garage that we've been trying to get back for the last 3-4 weeks that the onsite foreman said he has back at the office and just keeps forgetting to bring it by

3 when the final inspection on the stairs takes place

4 to estimate when the stucco will be cured enough for preparation prior to priming/painting, and by extension the rest of the house...I know this is dependent upon the weather, humidity, etc, but don't think it wrong to ask for an estimate.



No reply to my email this AM, no one showed up at before I left for work at 7:30 AM (usually they would show at 7 AM to start the work day), so before I left, wrote out the check for the contract price, left it on the stove, left note for Sweetie-pie, then pedaled my fine self to work and was able to enjoy some Bike-to-Work freebies in the form of poisonous carbohydrate filled bagels and orange juice....mmmm, delicious carbs.

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You can paint stucco when it is dry to the touch. You should hose down the scratch coat to keep it moist for a week to aid chemical curing, and prevent cracking. Brown coat cures for about 3 days. Again, keep it moist. Then finish coat. Why are you painting a new finish coat? Is there other stucco you need to match?


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There was about a 6 inch by 4 foot strip that was stuccu-ed yesterday in one fell swoop that for whatever reason wasn't done till yesterday.

So scratch coat, then brown then finish coat all applied in once day for this part, unsure if they waited long between layers or just did it all at once.....sub-optimal in my book if all at once, but the die is cast. Weather is drizzly fog at night, and foggy during the day, and forecast to be like this for the next few days so hopefully this is slowing the cure enough to prevent cracking.

Also looks like they touched up some of the previous stucco they had applied (when I came home last night, noticed new patches of darker white stucco). So that has to cure as well.

Now I have a house that is 1/5th new white stucco. Need to get the new stucco primed then painted to match the rest of the 'Brown Horse" paint color.

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There is a one day, rapid setting stucco patch. If they used it, no problem. If they didn't, you will know soon enough. Look for brown bags that day rapid set mortar mix. Or a yellow bag, that says Eisenwall. Otherwise....


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Scaffolding removed yesterday.....unobstructed view from front window for first time since Oct 28 2018.

Now just need the following:

1 Paint remaining fresh stucco. About 40 square feet.
2 Fix the blemishes in the new paint that they did in the backyard in November.
3 Get SF City to perform final inspection on stairs.
4 Apply sealant to now done concrete stairs.
5 Get the port-a-potty removed so I have access to the garage again.
6 Do final walk-through/review of all work.
7 Make final payments of approximately $12K

During short talk with the contractor yesterday, says it should be done within 2 weeks.

I wanted to ask, "What happened to late December 2018?", but somehow had mental discipline to look him in the eye and just say, "That would be great, looking forward to it."

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what a nightmare.

Re: Anyone ever report a contractor to CSLB [Re: Mr Doof] #2965947
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Originally Posted by Mr Doof
Scaffolding removed yesterday.....unobstructed view from front window for first time since Oct 28 2018.

Now just need the following:

1 Paint remaining fresh stucco. About 40 square feet.
2 Fix the blemishes in the new paint that they did in the backyard in November.
3 Get SF City to perform final inspection on stairs.
4 Apply sealant to now done concrete stairs.
5 Get the port-a-potty removed so I have access to the garage again.
6 Do final walk-through/review of all work.
7 Make final payments of approximately $12K

During short talk with the contractor yesterday, says it should be done within 2 weeks.

I wanted to ask, "What happened to late December 2018?", but somehow had mental discipline to look him in the eye and just say, "That would be great, looking forward to it."



Short update:

1 Port-a-potty removed from driveway...and they chipped my driveway when removing it. Sigh.

2 House painting done this Friday past, but still some small areas that bubbled up over the weekend that need fixing. A clear coat for the concrete stairs not applied...maybe after final inspection? Oh, a few flakes came off the metal banister when it was screwed onto the wall, so some touch-up there as well, and yeah, I will need to caulk around that joining where the flat metal meets the bumpy stucco...water down the wall, runs down, hits the screws, and wicks right into newly built wall.

2 Construction done, but final inspection not scheduled as far as I can tell...emailed again today to see when it is scheduled. Also need to schedule final walk-through.

3 The rest of their stuff to be removed from our garage.

4 Payment...faster all this is done, faster I can pay them the final $10K to get out of my life.

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The whole process seemed like a lot of fun. Kudos for seeing it through without going insane.

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Must be tough.

Construction workers are just about all idiots.

A former client had a plumbing leak today. She thought it was small so she called a handyman. The doofus cut a big hole in the stucco, rather than a small hole in the drywall, took out 20 feet of waste line under the house, because it was "gunky" when only a fitting needed replacing. Dropped demolition materials on the ground, where the owner promptly stepped on a nail and had to go to urgent care. THEN she calls me to ask for advice. What could i say, but call me BEFORE you call "Helping Hands" handymen


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The construction guys are pretty good, except for when I or Sweetie-pie caught them napping under the work table or the new hire who just groused and got in the way of the other workers.

Now the management pair.....

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What a clown show. How did you decide this was outfit to use? Were they recommended? References were supplied?
Just curious.


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Originally Posted by huryanpost
What a clown show. How did you decide this was outfit to use? Were they recommended? References were supplied?
Just curious.


I never mind curiosity.

We looked 3 yrs for a good contractor...the licensed and bonded ones were all busy doing soft story retrofits and the ones that did call back said to get back to them in a year, and when we did call of few of those back, they told us to call back in another year.....the current construction boom in the City is taking all the laborers from the outfits holding the licenses so this is slowing things greatly for the home owner trying to fix up their place the right way.

We got a number of referrals from friends, but most of them were unlicensed 'handyman", so nope, and the others never called back or wouldn't provide a fixed start and end date or wouldn't pull permits ("It is just a govt scam that costs you more, our work would pass if we ever get inspected.")

Then there was another one who wanted us to pay $5000 just to get a bid (this fee would go towards the project if we choose them, but if it didn't, no refund).

Then there was the one who wanted to rip off the front of the house and replace the windows (that we had just replaced 5 yrs ago) so that it would better blend in with the new steps. Replace the front of the house just to 'blend in" with new steps?

Finally it got to the point that when I would ride my bicycle around, I just would look at various buildings that had a contracting licence and I would just walk in cold to see if I could make a personal connection thinking that if I show up, make an appointment, they would actually show up.

So in the Dogpatch neighborhood, not too far from the Hell's Angel's club, I found a well kept building that had their name on it. Warehouse part was tidy, their fleet of vehicles were in decent shape, signage looked nice, and yes, license and bonded (and valid). Did the Yelp thing (4 stars), looked at some of their other projects (a mixture of commercial clients as well as residential clients), and while I did have a vibe of "Well, they are going to try and upsell me on things," the fact the could start on a fixed date, gave me a fixed end date, a written quote, and showed up on time, had an ex-SF City Engineer as their go-to sub for engineering blueprints, well, it just seemed like a good choice and I would just say no to things that didn't need "fixing". I mean, I didn't want to fall through my front stairs like my neighbor did a few years previous (this is when we started looking to replace the stairs) so I had to hire someone to do this properly.

When we finally had three bids, the lowest one was out because it was so scattered and poorly written and lots of parts were left off (engineering, permit, equipment rental costs, etc) and Sweetie-pie got too much of a weirdo creeper skeeze vibe, the highest costing bid was not very detailed, no end date or even projected end date, and very short warranty. And the one we took, while not that much lower than the high bid was very detailed, had good Yelp reviews, good previous work projects we could check out, and they seemed to be both personable and emphasized "a good work product".

So, we did the due diligence, or so I thought at the time. Now i second guess myself endlessly and have sleepless nights.




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It definitely sounds like your homework was done. I hate
Hearing these stories. But sometimes integrity is hard to come by.
Sounds like one good real carpenter and his trusted helper should have been
able to pull this one off with a cost plus contract.
Of course everysurfer and everyone else within earshot will call bullshit
on that statement.
The market I’m in is nowhere comparable to the Bay area.

Makes me want to move back there hearingThese types of stories. I could always
Do a good job of selling myself and my product.
Have their at least been some regret on the contractors part put forth? Some type of apology
on how things went ?

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Originally Posted by huryanpost

Sounds like one good real carpenter and his trusted helper should have been
able to pull this one off with a cost plus contract.
Of course everysurfer and everyone else within earshot will call bullshit
on that statement.

No disagreement from me on your point. As long as the good carpenter has a license, bond, workers compensation insurance, liability insurance, assets, and knowledge of all the trades involved.


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