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#2912032 - 02/11/19 03:05 PM Re: An Entire Town of Illegals Working for Trump LOL [Re: heelnipstr]
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Regardless, the singular view isn't just limited to one side of the passion vs reason spectrum.

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#2912058 - 02/11/19 03:57 PM Re: An Entire Town of Illegals Working for Trump LOL [Re: 1whoknows]
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Originally Posted By: 1whoknows
Ive never seen a data driven article that described how or to what level undocumented workers are a negative for the US economy or for US citizens overall.

GDaddy, youre on. Given the emergency at the border, the relevant articles shouldnt be too hard to find.

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#2912068 - 02/11/19 04:09 PM Re: An Entire Town of Illegals Working for Trump LOL [Re: StuAzole]
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If I'm citing data my preference is going to the source, not to someone's interpretation of the data.

So for example, if I want to see what effect the demographics have on a school's performance I look at the census info around that school. If I want to find out the demographics in a prison or the demographics of that portion of the birthrate that's paid by Medi-Cal/Medicare then I look to see if that information is being published - which sometimes it isn't due to political reasons. Etc, etc.

I know what I do see in the stats as reported at the source, but you guys usually attack those comments with the Swedish argument, which is that it's immoral to even consider the question or to look for the data.

In the meantime, we still have immigration policies and laws as well as labor laws, as well as an established legislative process to change those as per the preferences of the electorate. That much isn't subject to debate.

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#2912160 - 02/11/19 07:59 PM Re: An Entire Town of Illegals Working for Trump LOL [Re: GDaddy]
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Weak sauce.

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#2912164 - 02/11/19 08:20 PM Re: An Entire Town of Illegals Working for Trump LOL [Re: heelnipstr]
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Originally Posted By: heelnipstr
Hiring from certain towns is what many companies do. They have more control of the workers and the workers have little recourse when they get screwed. If they leave or complain or make trouble the company can also penalize their family back home. Serfdom is alive and well.

But they are just brown people who happen to be losers so they get what they get, and we get cheap labor w/o any responsibility. aint that right G-dudes


Guess whos in favor of perpetuating this sitch

Hint: not bad orange man

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#2912186 - 02/11/19 08:42 PM Re: An Entire Town of Illegals Working for Trump LOL [Re: BillyOcean]
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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Originally Posted By: heelnipstr
Hiring from certain towns is what many companies do. They have more control of the workers and the workers have little recourse when they get screwed. If they leave or complain or make trouble the company can also penalize their family back home. Serfdom is alive and well.

But they are just brown people who happen to be losers so they get what they get, and we get cheap labor w/o any responsibility. aint that right G-dudes


Guess whos in favor of perpetuating this sitch

Hint: not bad orange man


it seems I don't need to guess you didn't read the op article.
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#2912190 - 02/11/19 08:45 PM Re: An Entire Town of Illegals Working for Trump LOL [Re: StuAzole]
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Always with the insults

Modern slavery is your jam baby

No one elses problem

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#2912192 - 02/11/19 08:50 PM Re: An Entire Town of Illegals Working for Trump LOL [Re: BillyOcean]
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Always with the insults

Modern slavery is your jam baby

No one elses problem


yes because your blather is an insult. I don't expect much but jez, try.
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#2912194 - 02/11/19 08:51 PM Re: An Entire Town of Illegals Working for Trump LOL [Re: StuAzole]
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Why do you support modern slavery?

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#2912197 - 02/11/19 08:54 PM Re: An Entire Town of Illegals Working for Trump LOL [Re: BillyOcean]
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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Why do you support modern slavery?
rolleyes shrug
is the correct answer because I am a neoliberal trying to make as much money as I can because that's what I do?
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#2912200 - 02/11/19 09:00 PM Re: An Entire Town of Illegals Working for Trump LOL [Re: StuAzole]
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Slave drivers bring these slaves across the border for fees

What if there were something, like a barrier, that put them out of business

Surely an empathic man of the people would support such a thing, right?

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#2912203 - 02/11/19 09:06 PM Re: An Entire Town of Illegals Working for Trump LOL [Re: BillyOcean]
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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Slave drivers bring these slaves across the border for fees

What if there were something, like a barrier, that put them out of business

Surely an empathic man of the people would support such a thing, right?

ban

they might dig a tunnel or they would just find a different way.

what if we as a nation stopped creating some of the problems in their own countries for these people to make the journey.
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#2912204 - 02/11/19 09:18 PM Re: An Entire Town of Illegals Working for Trump LOL [Re: StuAzole]
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What if we did both?
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#2912225 - 02/11/19 10:41 PM Re: An Entire Town of Illegals Working for Trump LOL [Re: BillyOcean]
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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean


Modern slavery

This is very stupid. Slaves try to escape FROM, not TO their place of employment.
Barriers are used to keep slaves IN. You and idiot boy are wanting to (ineffectively and unnecessarily) keep families OUT.

If you want to assist your fellow Mexican hater, please help him find some evidence that illegal immigration has a negative effect on our economy or society in general.

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#2912271 - 02/12/19 05:23 AM Re: An Entire Town of Illegals Working for Trump LOL [Re: StuAzole]
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Rasis!

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