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FCS2 vs Fusion #2912152
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About to order a new boar. I keep telling myself I'll try FCS2 "on my next one" and keep ordering Fusion plugs because I already have tons of fins. This time around though, I could probably use a new set of fins anyways so...

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FCS 2 will allow you to use all of your old 2 tab fins, so you have nothing to loose.

Go for it.


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Re: FCS2 vs Fusion [Re: bobwarren] #2912209
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i believe fusion is a bit stronger

Re: FCS2 vs Fusion [Re: bobwarren] #2912216
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Both allow you to use 2 tab og FCS fins, although you have to buy a set of grub screws
if you want to use them on FCS2 boxes. FCS2 allow for a little bit more fore/aft adjustment,
if you think you want to play with placement more. If not, I think Fusions are simpler
and every bit as solid, if not moreso.
Obviously cant use FCS2 fins with fusions but dont see much drawback there.


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I like how the fcs 2 plug is bigger . So when I use my old fins they sit flush-er

Re: FCS2 vs Fusion [Re: bobwarren] #2912248
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I don't see how the fusion tabs could be more "solid" than FCS2, which have longer point of connection, a leading edge that hooks in to a pin (like futures), and can also be screwed in (the same as fusion). I don't use the optional screws, and never had an FCS2 fin rip out (I have had the old fusions rip out their plug back in the day). Plus, I like being able to pop them in/out without a tool. Plenty of different templates/construction options, but backwards compatible too.
Other than cost, I don't see a downside to going FCS2.

Re: FCS2 vs Fusion [Re: bobwarren] #2912274
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i've had no problems with FCS2 on the 6 boards i've had them in.
I really like the accelerator fins , have a set of small and medium and use them almost exclusively.
sometimes the medium with the small in the back


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What kinda boards/waves do you like the accelerators in? The board in question will be a 5'5 x 19.5 grovelor for thigh to waist high or so and flatter faced/sectiony beach break.

I've always liked Merricks in just about any board but might try something new.

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use the mediums on my 5'10 x 18.5 x 2 3/8 26 liter shortboard, i'll put the small in the back for peaky beach breaks.
also use the mediums on my tomo evo.
also using them as quad fronts on my 5'4 x 20 1/4 x 2 3/8 groveller with the accelerator (same as performer as rear quads)

Smalls i use on my step up and on my 5'3 tomo vader and 5'4 tomo nano

if you want them for futures, they are the same templates as the gorilla grip fins


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Re: FCS2 vs Fusion [Re: bobwarren] #2912329
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Originally Posted By: bobwarren
What kinda boards/waves do you like the accelerators in? The board in question will be a 5'5 x 19.5 grovelor for thigh to waist high or so and flatter faced/sectiony beach break.

I've always liked Merricks in just about any board but might try something new.


Something steep and tight, at least stomach-chest high. Outstanding pivot/response but zero drive/projection imho. I was ordering a board for similar, decided to try FCS2, this was very soon after they came out. Disappointing first few surfs. Bought grub screws, put in Merricks, board pushed back and went fast down the line as desired, Accelerators went fast on the erBB classifieds as desired.

I'd consider FCS2 just for resale purposes if at all applicable. Grub screws worked fine for me; people with FCS2 fins might be off the board if it has Fusions.

Re: FCS2 vs Fusion [Re: Sharkbiscuit] #2912882
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Originally Posted By: Sharkbiscuit
Originally Posted By: bobwarren
What kinda boards/waves do you like the accelerators in? The board in question will be a 5'5 x 19.5 grovelor for thigh to waist high or so and flatter faced/sectiony beach break.

I've always liked Merricks in just about any board but might try something new.


Something steep and tight, at least stomach-chest high. Outstanding pivot/response but zero drive/projection imho. I was ordering a board for similar, decided to try FCS2, this was very soon after they came out. Disappointing first few surfs. Bought grub screws, put in Merricks, board pushed back and went fast down the line as desired, Accelerators went fast on the erBB classifieds as desired.

I'd consider FCS2 just for resale purposes if at all applicable. Grub screws worked fine for me; people with FCS2 fins might be off the board if it has Fusions.



interesting analysis.
I'm wondering if you surf waves that are more lined up with open faces, the surf I get the most is quick and punchy.
My first board with FCS 2 I had the reactors and the performers, so I actually got the accelerators because they had considerably more drive than those two, albeit less than carver and AM's in a larger size, so i don't think they are low on drive generally, but maybe so compared to the Merricks. Like I said, the accerators are more inbetween in size, the smalls are closer to medium and the mediums are sort of a mid between medium and large. Compared to a large am fin i could see a huge difference in drive, but not hte mediums


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Thanks for the responses fellas. Any experience with the carvers? They look similar enough to AMs but I think have more area so maybe too drivey. I do like drivey fins and dont care for anything too flicks but still. I can get the carvers on sale in FCS2.

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Originally Posted By: SharkBoy
interesting analysis.
I'm wondering if you surf waves that are more lined up with open faces, the surf I get the most is quick and punchy.


Lined up, I dunno, but open-faced, or straight up flat-faced, yes. Most of the road trips to Central/South Florida where the surf is quicker, it's also very prone to being walled/closed, and swept fins race closeouts well for me.

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They are pretty similar to AMs but all 3 fins are the same size. AMs have a smaller center fin.

The Super brand set seems identical to carvers but with a smaller center fin (L Carver sides and M center for size L, M Carver sides and S center for size M).

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Originally Posted By: Oceanslide
FCS2 allow for a little bit more fore/aft adjustment,
if you think you want to play with placement more.


Ive tried to adjust fins up and back with Fusions and there really isnt much wiggle room and its hard to get the fins to stay put since you get a little indent on the tabs that the grub want to engage. Do you find FCS2 to be better on the adjustablity then when using 2 tab fins in terms of staying in place?


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