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#790850 - 06/05/12 08:16 AM Re: Why Everyone Hates Surftech, and Pop-outs in General [Re: SharkBoy]
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i personally couldn't care where the board was made, if american or not. Nor do i savour the scent of 'fresh resin'

But, like oakfoils said, custom boards just work better for me.

The real bummer is how exploited surfing is. Sure we get webcasts, free videos, more info online etc etc, but there is hardly any habitable places left in the world that doesn't get crowded.

I liked the old days of buying a t-shirt to show my support of the local scene, but it's just like music. Most consumers have underdeveloped taste buds and they are the largest market, thus radio/tv is saturated with poop and we are seeing the same thing in surfing. Big brands make stuff that all looks alike, and 7s is under the hands of every happy novice who is treading water in the impact zone when I'm trying to take off.

The lack of respect to the rules, and sense of entitlement bugs me probably the most. Just a really obnoxious attitude. And I've probably attached the surftech/global surf industry rider to that attitude. Therefore, my irritation isn't directed at the products, rather the people that buy them.

I expatriated from the states about 7 year ago to another country that hardly had a surf scene. Now, there are like 6 surf travel agents, websites, camps, magazines, stores and they are all run by people with probably less than 5 years of surfing experience.

When I see their 7d short depth of field high shutter speed Marine Layer rip off vids with significantly worse surfing, I don't know whether or not to laugh or cry




Thanks for that Miki...

With this holier than thow post I suggest you should...

Were you not a floundering kook in the impact zone at one time... Get over yourself!
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#790851 - 06/06/12 08:59 AM Re: Why Everyone Hates Surftech, and Pop-outs in General [Re: bjornfree]
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i personally couldn't care where the board was made, if american or not. Nor do i savour the scent of 'fresh resin'

But, like oakfoils said, custom boards just work better for me.

The real bummer is how exploited surfing is. Sure we get webcasts, free videos, more info online etc etc, but there is hardly any habitable places left in the world that doesn't get crowded.

I liked the old days of buying a t-shirt to show my support of the local scene, but it's just like music. Most consumers have underdeveloped taste buds and they are the largest market, thus radio/tv is saturated with poop and we are seeing the same thing in surfing. Big brands make stuff that all looks alike, and 7s is under the hands of every happy novice who is treading water in the impact zone when I'm trying to take off.

The lack of respect to the rules, and sense of entitlement bugs me probably the most. Just a really obnoxious attitude. And I've probably attached the surftech/global surf industry rider to that attitude. Therefore, my irritation isn't directed at the products, rather the people that buy them.

I expatriated from the states about 7 year ago to another country that hardly had a surf scene. Now, there are like 6 surf travel agents, websites, camps, magazines, stores and they are all run by people with probably less than 5 years of surfing experience.

When I see their 7d short depth of field high shutter speed Marine Layer rip off vids with significantly worse surfing, I don't know whether or not to laugh or cry




Thanks for that Miki...

With this holier than thow post I suggest you should...

Were you not a floundering kook in the impact zone at one time... Get over yourself!




I didn't think I wrote with the tone that you perceived as holier than thou. I thought of it as more of an observation, which I don't think is untrue.
but that's cool, resort to name calling of someone you've never met before
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#790852 - 06/06/12 12:02 PM Re: Why Everyone Hates Surftech, and Pop-outs in General [Re: SharkBoy]
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I didn't think I wrote with the tone that you perceived as holier than thou. I thought of it as more of an observation, which I don't think is untrue.
but that's cool, resort to name calling of someone you've never met before




Sorry Sharkboy, the lumping everyone on a 7S as a floundering novice with a sense of intitlement is what I have a problem with. I've surfed longer than you've been alive and yes I have a 7S superfish II which is a great board. I have customs also and not a big ST fan but I love the new version of the Superfish. It's a solid Poly and my favorite go to board. Like I said it's more of the sterotyping anyone with a GSI SF as a kook was the issue. Most folks that have never ridden one sure like to bash them. I'm sure I'll hear about it but that's OK...sorry again, you seem like a good guy, Brad
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#790853 - 06/06/12 12:17 PM Re: Why Everyone Hates Surftech, and Pop-outs in General [Re: bjornfree]
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and yes I have a 7S superfish II which is a great board.




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#790854 - 06/06/12 12:31 PM Re: Why Everyone Hates Surftech, and Pop-outs in General [Re: Havoc]
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and yes I have a 7S superfish II which is a great board.









7S.... really .... the emotions that I go through when I see one ....

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#790855 - 06/06/12 02:09 PM Re: Why Everyone Hates Surftech, and Pop-outs in General [Re: surfwhere]
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I've heard bath salts will do that to you.
I can imagine Surfwhere paddling up to a hapless 7S rider and starting to gnaw on his ankle
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#790856 - 06/06/12 04:24 PM Re: Why Everyone Hates Surftech, and Pop-outs in General [Re: surfwhere]
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that sequence made me crack up
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#790857 - 06/06/12 05:55 PM Re: Why Everyone Hates Surftech, and Pop-outs in General [Re: surfwhere]
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7S.... really .... the emotions that I go through when I see one ....





It riles you to believe that I perceive the web you weave...from North Cakalaki you should know better. You do win thee "ONE HIP CAT AWARD" for your clever use of the icons.



7S superfish II rules suckkkaaas!

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#2911957 - 02/11/19 01:43 PM Re: Why Everyone Hates Surftech, and Pop-outs in General [Re: SLOsurfer]
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Originally Posted By: SLOsurfer
You know what I think is funny? When surftech paints stringers on their boards. The JC line does it, and I think the CI line does it...so funny.

It's like they KNOW surfers aren't fond of surftechs.

"Hey, Shane, do you think our customers might ride these if we paint stringers on them? That way they won't be so embarrassed to be seen in the water on one." - JC

"Oh, crap, they'll see me with a surftech. Good thing I have this painted-on stringer." - surftech owner

It's like camoflauge.





<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/socrazy.gif" alt="" />



I own a Surftech Soft-top. The reason I bought it is because these boards were the easiest to ride when I was learning in Costa Rica. They even allowed me to catch an overhead green face at the break, without worrying about injuring myself.

The purpose of the painted stringer, and other markings/inlays, is so beginners know where to stand on the board.

If/when I get better, I'll probably want a board custom-built for me. As a kook/beginner, this is a good board for me. Durable, forgiving, relatively safe.

I can understand experienced surfers not liking kooks/beginners in the water, especially on preferred breaks. But wasn't everyone a kook/beginner at some point? And don't we want them learning as quickly as possible if they're going to be out in the water?

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#2911984 - 02/11/19 02:11 PM Re: Why Everyone Hates Surftech, and Pop-outs in General [Re: SLOsurfer]
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Nope, we want it to be difficult and soul crushing so that only the most persistent and battle hardened prevail. Same reason we're not down with boogers. Only half joking.

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#2912389 - 02/12/19 11:48 AM Re: Why Everyone Hates Surftech, and Pop-outs in General [Re: SLOsurfer]
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I only ride pop-outs/non-poly boards.

The first Surftech are the best boards ever, though I have never owned one. Will buy one if I come across a model I like. I have a 10 year old surftech TL2 though. It doesn't have any pressure dents still. I messed the board up myslef by running it over with studded tires etc, but it's still great.

My other board is a Greg Webber China special smile Just bought it and it's great.
Got a used Coil yesterday for $200 and it looks like a souped-up popout to me. Probably a good board.

You haters will never see me on a poly. Broke my last one before xmas and I'm not ever getting that crap again.
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#2912481 - 02/12/19 01:41 PM Re: Why Everyone Hates Surftech, and Pop-outs in General [Re: Northern_Shores]
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Originally Posted By: Northern_Shores
I only ride pop-outs/non-poly boards.

The first Surftech are the best boards ever, though I have never owned one. Will buy one if I come across a model I like. I have a 10 year old surftech TL2 though. It doesn't have any pressure dents still. I messed the board up myslef by running it over with studded tires etc, but it's still great.

My other board is a Greg Webber China special smile Just bought it and it's great.
Got a used Coil yesterday for $200 and it looks like a souped-up popout to me. Probably a good board.

You haters will never see me on a poly. Broke my last one before xmas and I'm not ever getting that crap again.


What will you be shaping your masterpieces out of?
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#2912543 - 02/12/19 02:56 PM Re: Why Everyone Hates Surftech, and Pop-outs in General [Re: kellsmith]
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Originally Posted By: kellsmith
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supporting arguement? i think he was off on a lot of his comments regarding non-pop-out epoxy construction but way more of his essay was spot on, imo. to be fair it was written a number of years ago and didnt mention epoxy glassed pu's at all.


always had a negative and condescending view of the surfing world, especially the shortboard shapers and designs. then goes on to go full bore S.U.P. popouts from china <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/foreheadslap.gif" alt="" /> guy's the definition of hypocrite

if that is true, wow. i spent like half hour reading his letter and agreeing with it. if he really does endorse china sups now ummm <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/socrazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/banghead.gif" alt="" />


Yep.
Total hypocrite

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