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NOAA posted this so it must be true. Just need some help though. Can someone here tell me which of the following events listed on NOAA's graphic is a "Climate Disaster"? Their graphic clearly says that these are the Weather and "Climate" disasters for 2018. Just need someone to break down which are weather and which are "Climate". Thanks.





This is a bad day for the news media. Lets not kid ourselves, Toobin said on CNN. The larger message that a lot of people are going to take from this story is that the news media are a bunch of leftist liars who are dying to get the president, and theyre willing to lie to do it.
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Help me out guys. NOAA posted this so it must be true. Anytime I post about a blizzard or record cold I'm told that its just weather and can not be used as an indication of climate. NOAA here is giving us examples of Weather and "Climate Disasters" and all I'm asking is for you guys to help distinguish which is which so I don't make a mistake. Help me out.


This is a bad day for the news media. Lets not kid ourselves, Toobin said on CNN. The larger message that a lot of people are going to take from this story is that the news media are a bunch of leftist liars who are dying to get the president, and theyre willing to lie to do it.
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Where are our climate experts?


This is a bad day for the news media. Lets not kid ourselves, Toobin said on CNN. The larger message that a lot of people are going to take from this story is that the news media are a bunch of leftist liars who are dying to get the president, and theyre willing to lie to do it.
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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Where are our climate experts?

I thought you claimed to be one?

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Where are our climate experts?

I thought you claimed to be one?


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Link?


Why? Do you think I made that graphic myself? You dont believe NOAA came up with that?


This is a bad day for the news media. Lets not kid ourselves, Toobin said on CNN. The larger message that a lot of people are going to take from this story is that the news media are a bunch of leftist liars who are dying to get the president, and theyre willing to lie to do it.
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What are the odds that any of our climate change experts engages the original post?


This is a bad day for the news media. Lets not kid ourselves, Toobin said on CNN. The larger message that a lot of people are going to take from this story is that the news media are a bunch of leftist liars who are dying to get the president, and theyre willing to lie to do it.
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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
What are the odds that any of our climate change experts engages the original post?


don't cry, nobody wants to play with someone who has no integrity.
your snowflake tears melt so quickly bawling

might you ghost your own thread...


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Its out climate change experts who are goasting this one.


This is a bad day for the news media. Lets not kid ourselves, Toobin said on CNN. The larger message that a lot of people are going to take from this story is that the news media are a bunch of leftist liars who are dying to get the president, and theyre willing to lie to do it.
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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
NOAA posted this so it must be true. Just need some help though. Can someone here tell me which of the following events listed on NOAA's graphic is a "Climate Disaster"? Their graphic clearly says that these are the Weather and "Climate" disasters for 2018. Just need someone to break down which are weather and which are "Climate". Thanks.





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This is a bad day for the news media. Lets not kid ourselves, Toobin said on CNN. The larger message that a lot of people are going to take from this story is that the news media are a bunch of leftist liars who are dying to get the president, and theyre willing to lie to do it.
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Originally Posted By: everysurfr
It says weather and climate, not weather or climate. S#ithead.


So your vote is that they are all Climate Disasters?


This is a bad day for the news media. Lets not kid ourselves, Toobin said on CNN. The larger message that a lot of people are going to take from this story is that the news media are a bunch of leftist liars who are dying to get the president, and theyre willing to lie to do it.
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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Help me out.


You are beyond help.

You are constantly posting far right fake news as proof of your conspiracy theories but claim that everyone's a victim of the lamestream media.

When being owned, you ghost.

Then you wonder why nobody wants to engage in a discussion with you.

Zero integrity.


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This is not right wing. This is directly from NOAA. I'm just looking for some clarification from our climate change experts.




This is a bad day for the news media. Lets not kid ourselves, Toobin said on CNN. The larger message that a lot of people are going to take from this story is that the news media are a bunch of leftist liars who are dying to get the president, and theyre willing to lie to do it.
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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
This is not right wing. This is directly from NOAA. I'm just looking for some clarification from our climate change experts.




Climate disaster LOL

These things used to be called "bad weather".

Also, lol about droughts in deserts with history of mega droughts.

Looks mostly normal, BTW. Greater hurricane activity cycle again, Noreasters, tornados in the midwest, drought in the desert...


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Can NOAA or any of our resident Climate Change believers tell us what it will take for us to be "Climate Disaster" free by 2020?


This is a bad day for the news media. Lets not kid ourselves, Toobin said on CNN. The larger message that a lot of people are going to take from this story is that the news media are a bunch of leftist liars who are dying to get the president, and theyre willing to lie to do it.
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man, just imagine if people chose to just stop engaging you when
you are being disingenuous and not debating in good faith....

the reckoning


Well, someone is stupid but it's not Shakespeare.
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Originally Posted By: afoaf
man, just imagine if people chose to just stop engaging you when
you are being disingenuous and not debating in good faith....

the reckoning


The more likely scenario is that you guys can't manage any defense for the incredibly stupid graphic produced by NOAA.


This is a bad day for the news media. Lets not kid ourselves, Toobin said on CNN. The larger message that a lot of people are going to take from this story is that the news media are a bunch of leftist liars who are dying to get the president, and theyre willing to lie to do it.
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the point is clear to anyone looking at this honestly that the current working theory is
that climate change is impacting the severity of weather related disasters.

this is a list of all of the disasters that caused damage in excess of 1 billion dollars last
year.

at the bottom of your image:

Originally Posted By: NOAA

the map denotes the approximate location for each of the 14 separate billion-dollar weather and climate disasters that impacted the United States during 2018


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man, just imagine if people chose to just stop engaging you when
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the reckoning

AFOAF is right


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Originally Posted By: afoaf
the point is clear to anyone looking at this honestly that the current working theory is
that climate change is impacting the severity of weather related disasters.

this is a list of all of the disasters that caused damage in excess of 1 billion dollars last
year.

at the bottom of your image:

Originally Posted By: NOAA

the map denotes the approximate location for each of the 14 separate billion-dollar weather and climate disasters that impacted the United States during 2018



How is it that you guys can claim events that are contrary to your religion as just being "Weather"?


This is a bad day for the news media. Lets not kid ourselves, Toobin said on CNN. The larger message that a lot of people are going to take from this story is that the news media are a bunch of leftist liars who are dying to get the president, and theyre willing to lie to do it.
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This is called clerks justifying their budget

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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
This is called science


Yep


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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: afoaf
the point is clear to anyone looking at this honestly that the current working theory is
that climate change is impacting the severity of weather related disasters.

this is a list of all of the disasters that caused damage in excess of 1 billion dollars last
year.

at the bottom of your image:

Originally Posted By: NOAA

the map denotes the approximate location for each of the 14 separate billion-dollar weather and climate disasters that impacted the United States during 2018



How is it that you guys can claim events that are contrary to your religion as just being "Weather"?


no one has done that here and I am not sure if calling an acceptance of
climate change "religion" is a red herring or ad hominem.

can you clarify the point you're making?


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I bet making that chart cost a million dolllars

Probably went through about 10 committees

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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
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the point is clear to anyone looking at this honestly that the current working theory is
that climate change is impacting the severity of weather related disasters.

this is a list of all of the disasters that caused damage in excess of 1 billion dollars last
year.

at the bottom of your image:

Originally Posted By: NOAA

the map denotes the approximate location for each of the 14 separate billion-dollar weather and climate disasters that impacted the United States during 2018



How is it that you guys can claim events that are contrary to your religion as just being "Weather"?


Why are you calling weather "events".

It's called weather.

Weather ≠ Climate

Racism ≠ Disagreement

Come on you guys, it's not that hard.


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I bet making that chart cost a million dolllars

Probably went through about 10 committees


All of which agreed with the results....and yet here you two dumbfvcks are. Sad. poke


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First of all~ e v e r y w e a t h e r man is under gag order!
If they told the public the truth about WEATHER they would lose there job and never ever stand in front of a blue scene reading thee script AGIN!

We do not have weather anymore, period
our weather has been manufactured, it is man made.

You have heard the saying ~ "elephant in the room" ?

The Elephant is IN THE SKY!. ( and almost no one wants to look and see)

it goes with out saying but I will say it any way ~

The sure way you can tell something is going on....
hah Your president tells you it is not


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First of all~ e v e r y w e a t h e r man is under gag order!
If they told the public the truth about WEATHER they would lose there job and never ever stand in front of a blue scene reading thee script AGIN!

We do not have weather anymore, period
our weather has been manufactured, it is man made.

You have heard the saying ~ "elephant in the room" ?

The Elephant is IN THE SKY!. ( and almost no one wants to look and see)

it goes with out saying but I will say it any way ~

The sure way you can till something is going on....
hah Your president tells you it is not



Next level man!!

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gromsdad would somehow get lost at sea crossing the 22 on the 405 in about 4 fucken seconds without an army of scientists telling him which way north is.

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oh wait you're in the northeast.

your entire existence depends on scientists frantically telling people when and where to dredge

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do you think all those jetties are just there for no reason gromsdad.

you should go walk out on them and apply the scientific method to see what their purpose may be. do some meth before you go

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Those are all weather events. And similar events have been going down for 1000's of years.

But get with it man. All weather events from typical are now because of AGW.

We can't have a heat wave, blizzard, hurricane, tornado without it being blamed on AGW.

Al Gore's job is done. cheers


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Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Those are all weather events. And similar events have been going down for 1000's of years.

But get with it man. All weather events from typical are now because of AGW.

We can't have a heat wave, blizzard, hurricane, tornado without it being blamed on AGW.

Al Gore's job is done. cheers


But record cold like we had a week or two ago is just Weather.....nothing to see folks....move along.


This is a bad day for the news media. Lets not kid ourselves, Toobin said on CNN. The larger message that a lot of people are going to take from this story is that the news media are a bunch of leftist liars who are dying to get the president, and theyre willing to lie to do it.
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Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Those are all weather events. And similar events have been going down for 1000's of years.

But get with it man. All weather events from typical are now because of AGW.

We can't have a heat wave, blizzard, hurricane, tornado without it being blamed on AGW.

Al Gore's job is done. cheers



Singling out a single weather event and claiming it has anything to do with climate change is idiotic.

Looking at the weather patterns and how they affect the climate is something else.

I thought you were a climate expert.

Wait, no.


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Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Those are all weather events. And similar events have been going down for 1000's of years.

But get with it man. All weather events from typical are now because of AGW.

We can't have a heat wave, blizzard, hurricane, tornado without it being blamed on AGW.

Al Gore's job is done. cheers



Singling out a single weather event and claiming it has anything to do with climate change is idiotic.

Looking at the weather patterns and how they affect the climate is something else.

I thought you were a climate expert.

Wait, no.


Fecal.....did you even look at the NOAA graphic at the beginning of the thread?


This is a bad day for the news media. Lets not kid ourselves, Toobin said on CNN. The larger message that a lot of people are going to take from this story is that the news media are a bunch of leftist liars who are dying to get the president, and theyre willing to lie to do it.
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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Those are all weather events. And similar events have been going down for 1000's of years.

But get with it man. All weather events from typical are now because of AGW.

We can't have a heat wave, blizzard, hurricane, tornado without it being blamed on AGW.

Al Gore's job is done. cheers



Singling out a single weather event and claiming it has anything to do with climate change is idiotic.

Looking at the weather patterns and how they affect the climate is something else.

I thought you were a climate expert.

Wait, no.


Fecal.....did you even look at the NOAA graphic at the beginning of the thread?


Yes. It talks about changing patterns, not single events, which is what you're doing every time it snows.


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you do you keep ignoring the point and changing the argument?


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cognitive dissonance

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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Those are all weather events. And similar events have been going down for 1000's of years.

But get with it man. All weather events from typical are now because of AGW.

We can't have a heat wave, blizzard, hurricane, tornado without it being blamed on AGW.

Al Gore's job is done. cheers


But record cold like we had a week or two ago is just Weather.....nothing to see folks....move along.


The only one who makes that argument are idiots like you and Cable Guy Larry. Climate change theory does not specify that temperature only goes in a linear upward direction around the globe all at once. Moran trout


You forgot it was STOLEN?!
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man, just imagine if people chose to just stop engaging you when
you are being disingenuous and not debating in good faith....

the reckoning

Then you'll somehow start screaming "ghost"


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It seems that the left can't distinguish between weather and climate.


There's 'no place on the planet' not even Hawaii to escape climate change, experts say


http://a.msn.com/04/en-us/BBTteQu?ocid=se

PS: Wouldn't the lowest elevation of snowfall ever recorded in Hawaii be an indication of a coming ice age.....not global warming apocalypse.


This is a bad day for the news media. Lets not kid ourselves, Toobin said on CNN. The larger message that a lot of people are going to take from this story is that the news media are a bunch of leftist liars who are dying to get the president, and theyre willing to lie to do it.
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I love how any record set = global warming.


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Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Those are all weather events. And similar events have been going down for 1000's of years.

But get with it man. All weather events from typical are now because of AGW.

We can't have a heat wave, blizzard, hurricane, tornado without it being blamed on AGW.

Al Gore's job is done. cheers



Singling out a single weather event and claiming it has anything to do with climate change is idiotic.

Looking at the weather patterns and how they affect the climate is something else.

I thought you were a climate expert.

Wait, no.


Fecal.....did you even look at the NOAA graphic at the beginning of the thread?


Yes. It talks about changing patterns, not single events, which is what you're doing every time it snows.


The only pattern in that graphic is standard weather patterns, dummy.


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How come the Artic is now Ice free in summer if the globe is not warming? How come many species are shifting habitats northward? High altitude glaciers melting? I know because we had a few cold days this winter(on average warmer).

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Originally Posted By: mundus
How come the Artic is now Ice free in summer?


The Arctic is not ice-free in the summer.

And we only started keeping satellite records 40 years ago.

https://www.carbonbrief.org/arctic-sea-ice-summer-minimum-in-2018-is-sixth-lowest-on-record

BTW, LOL at "Artic" you fcking hillbilly. hah

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Never happened before, right?



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That used to be called a "mild winter". pokestick





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Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
I love how any record set = global warming.


Even record cold is now Global Warming......and they wonder why we don't buy their special brand of wealth redistribution horse shit.


This is a bad day for the news media. Lets not kid ourselves, Toobin said on CNN. The larger message that a lot of people are going to take from this story is that the news media are a bunch of leftist liars who are dying to get the president, and theyre willing to lie to do it.
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Originally Posted By: ifallalot
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man, just imagine if people chose to just stop engaging you when
you are being disingenuous and not debating in good faith....

the reckoning

Then you'll somehow start screaming "ghost"


first, you don't see to grasp the concept

second, the lady doth protest too much, methinks

if you want to argue a point, follow it through, otherwise what is the point
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