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Abortion #2910787
02/08/19 07:25 PM
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given the court is eventually going to overturn R v W, what would a world where life legally begins at conception look like from an enforcement perspective?

Around 50% of all pregnancies self-terminate, most before the mother even knows she's pregnant.

Will we need special investigative units to look into every failed pregnancy to be sure there was foul play?

Could moms who drink/smoke and miscarry be open to manslaughter charges?

Do pregnant women get a case worker assigned at their first OB/GYN appointment to make sure all goes according to plan?

I'm intrigued.


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Re: Abortion [Re: StuAzole] #2910980
02/08/19 11:33 PM
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The solution is an abortion gun. Now the 2nd amendment protects the 1st...and Roe v. Wade.

"What part of 'shall not be infringed' do you not understand?"

Besides, what animal would try to take an abortion gun from a grieving mother that just lost their unborn child?

shrug

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Re: Abortion [Re: StuAzole] #2911007
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How about this.

Until you know the answer, the default is the kid is alive and human.

You demolish buildings until you KNOW there are no people alive inside.

You don't drive down the road until you KNOW there are no people standing in it.

You don't perform a D&C until you KNOW the kid isn't alive.

I don't want to hear about "it's the mother's body" because it isn't. It's the kids body getting killed.

No abortion unless the kid isn't viable, or the mother's life is in danger.

I've never heard a rational argument to disagree with this.

Engage me.


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Re: Abortion [Re: StuAzole] #2911012
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There are far too many d bags around as is, if anything we need more abortion.

Re: Abortion [Re: mundus] #2911013
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Originally Posted By: mundus
There are far too many d bags around as is, if anything we need more abortion.


More guns. Make murder a misdemeanor. Free ammo.

Re: Abortion [Re: Phi1] #2911017
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Originally Posted By: Phi1
The solution is an abortion gun. Now the 2nd amendment protects the 1st...and Roe v. Wade.

"What part of 'shall not be infringed' do you not understand?"

Besides, what animal would try to take an abortion gun from a grieving mother that just lost their unborn child?

shrug

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an oddly intriguing concept cheers


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Re: Abortion [Re: StuAzole] #2911037
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has anyone here had an abortion?


It’s like the GZA coming on after U-God
Re: Abortion [Re: Phi1] #2911038
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Originally Posted By: Phi1
The solution is an abortion gun. Now the 2nd amendment protects the 1st...and Roe v. Wade.

"What part of 'shall not be infringed' do you not understand?"

Besides, what animal would try to take an abortion gun from a grieving mother that just lost their unborn child?

shrug

ban


I am the solution.


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The deference given to veterans is insane. They signed up, did their job and got paid for it. Fine.
Re: Abortion [Re: everysurfr] #2911041
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Originally Posted By: everysurfr
How about this.

Until you know the answer, the default is the kid is alive and human.

You demolish buildings until you KNOW there are no people alive inside.

You don't drive down the road until you KNOW there are no people standing in it.

You don't perform a D&C until you KNOW the kid isn't alive.

I don't want to hear about "it's the mother's body" because it isn't. It's the kids body getting killed.

No abortion unless the kid isn't viable, or the mother's life is in danger.

I've never heard a rational argument to disagree with this.

Engage me.

No one is arguing with you because they can't deny what you're saying


My entire existence is a failed gotcha
Re: Abortion [Re: ifallalot] #2911048
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Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: everysurfr
How about this.

Until you know the answer, the default is the kid is alive and human.

You demolish buildings until you KNOW there are no people alive inside.

You don't drive down the road until you KNOW there are no people standing in it.

You don't perform a D&C until you KNOW the kid isn't alive.

I don't want to hear about "it's the mother's body" because it isn't. It's the kids body getting killed.

No abortion unless the kid isn't viable, or the mother's life is in danger.

I've never heard a rational argument to disagree with this.

Engage me.

No one is arguing with you because they can't deny what you're saying


roflmao Thank you, Dr. Logic!

Re: Abortion [Re: DerDer] #2911052
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Originally Posted By: DerDer
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: everysurfr
How about this.

Until you know the answer, the default is the kid is alive and human.

You demolish buildings until you KNOW there are no people alive inside.

You don't drive down the road until you KNOW there are no people standing in it.

You don't perform a D&C until you KNOW the kid isn't alive.

I don't want to hear about "it's the mother's body" because it isn't. It's the kids body getting killed.

No abortion unless the kid isn't viable, or the mother's life is in danger.

I've never heard a rational argument to disagree with this.

Engage me.

No one is arguing with you because they can't deny what you're saying


roflmao Thank you, Dr. Logic!

Proving my point.


My entire existence is a failed gotcha
Re: Abortion [Re: everysurfr] #2911053
02/09/19 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted By: everysurfr
How about this.

Until you know the answer, the default is the kid is alive and human.

You demolish buildings until you KNOW there are no people alive inside.

You don't drive down the road until you KNOW there are no people standing in it.

You don't perform a D&C until you KNOW the kid isn't alive.

I don't want to hear about "it's the mother's body" because it isn't. It's the kids body getting killed.

No abortion unless the kid isn't viable, or the mother's life is in danger.

I've never heard a rational argument to disagree with this.

Engage me.


I see some false analogies and some attribute substitutions and some general mischaracterizations and some unethical appeals to emotion, but who cares about that when you are creating an unassailable argument like the one you presented?

Actually it's not really an argument.

Do you know what an argument is?

With like premise and conclusion?

You just sound all crazy with your imperatives.

Blathering.


incompetence is preferable to malice.
Re: Abortion [Re: ifallalot] #2911075
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Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: everysurfr
How about this.

Until you know the answer, the default is the kid is alive and human.

You demolish buildings until you KNOW there are no people alive inside.

You don't drive down the road until you KNOW there are no people standing in it.

You don't perform a D&C until you KNOW the kid isn't alive.

I don't want to hear about "it's the mother's body" because it isn't. It's the kids body getting killed.

No abortion unless the kid isn't viable, or the mother's life is in danger.

I've never heard a rational argument to disagree with this.

Engage me.

No one is arguing with you because they can't deny what you're saying

I thought you hated false analogies?

Re: Abortion [Re: StuAzole] #2911077
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And here is another thought for my friends on the left. We are cursed with tRump, only because the religious right would make a deal with Satan himself if it would end baby killing. Something that none of you were able to defend.

How's that for some knee jerk dogma.


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Re: Abortion [Re: Autoprax] #2911079
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Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: everysurfr
How about this.

Until you know the answer, the default is the kid is alive and human.

You demolish buildings until you KNOW there are no people alive inside.

You don't drive down the road until you KNOW there are no people standing in it.

You don't perform a D&C until you KNOW the kid isn't alive.

I don't want to hear about "it's the mother's body" because it isn't. It's the kids body getting killed.

No abortion unless the kid isn't viable, or the mother's life is in danger.

I've never heard a rational argument to disagree with this.

Engage me.


I see some false analogies and some attribute substitutions and some general mischaracterizations and some unethical appeals to emotion, but who cares about that when you are creating an unassailable argument like the one you presented?

Actually it's not really an argument.

Do you know what an argument is?

With like premise and conclusion?

You just sound all crazy with your imperatives.

Blathering.


That's the best you got? Your rebuttal is on the level with coathanger calling me a fag.

Since you missed it the first time,

My argument is
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You don't perform a D&C until you KNOW the kid isn't alive.

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