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How important is volume on these things?

Looking to buy a board off C-list and the one Iím interested in says itís for 135-190 pound person.

Iím at 185 (so in range) but would I be better off with something for a bigger guy?

FWIW this is just for fitness and not racing.....

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Volume is highly important. Too low and you canít knee paddle which will suck as itís the fastest stroke and good to switch it up.

I hate to say this on this forum but go with the bark surftech commander WT ghost carbon. Itís designes for people 175-225 and the design picks up bump easily.

Other ideas are to get a board shaped from joe ( I looked into this joe told me to buy surrftech WT because thatís what he would shape me anyways), or from dan Mann.

Used boards in good condition are hard to come by. I can ask the surftech rep if he has a demo he would be willing to part with.

You say just for fitness now but in a few months youíll have visions of Molokai or Catalina

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Agree 100% with Zander. Surftech Commander with the wide tail. At your weight, it's the optimal board. It really is exactly what Joe would shape you for a custom.

Volume is less important than on a surfboard, but if you've got too little it SUCKS. If you've got too much, and you're just looking to duff around on the thing, it's not as big a deal. If you do want to race, get the right one.

As for the ghost carbon construction, if you are lucky enough to find a used one, GET IT. It's way lighter than the normal ST construction and the board is perfect.

And Zander... do I know you? You're not Jebidiah with a Z, are you? Have you done any northern hemisphere races?

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Originally Posted By: Zander
Volume is highly important. Too low and you canít knee paddle which will suck as itís the fastest stroke and good to switch it up.

I hate to say this on this forum but go with the bark surftech commander WT ghost carbon. Itís designes for people 175-225 and the design picks up bump easily.

Other ideas are to get a board shaped from joe ( I looked into this joe told me to buy surrftech WT because thatís what he would shape me anyways), or from dan Mann.

Used boards in good condition are hard to come by. I can ask the surftech rep if he has a demo he would be willing to part with.

You say just for fitness now but in a few months youíll have visions of Molokai or Catalina


Please aske surftech rep about demo. Thanks.


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Volume is highly important. Too low and you canít knee paddle which will suck as itís the fastest stroke and good to switch it up.

I hate to say this on this forum but go with the bark surftech commander WT ghost carbon. Itís designes for people 175-225 and the design picks up bump easily.

Other ideas are to get a board shaped from joe ( I looked into this joe told me to buy surrftech WT because thatís what he would shape me anyways), or from dan Mann.

Used boards in good condition are hard to come by. I can ask the surftech rep if he has a demo he would be willing to part with.

You say just for fitness now but in a few months youíll have visions of Molokai or Catalina


Please aske surftech rep about demo. Thanks.


Will do, youre in SB right? if so hit up ShShSh he might know some people in your hood with boards for sale or he might have one he is selling

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Whoís shshsh?

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I'll second the Surftech recommendation. I have a stock(12') one that I love. I got a 12'6" Paddle/Surf Hybrid from Joe about a month ago and that thing is a blast! Paddle my way down the coast and catch sets when they come in. It's opened up so much range and fun.
I will say that you can sometimes get away with a slightly smaller board if you're just doing it for training purposes on your own. I'm 185lbs and am on the upper end for a stock prone but after some practice I can knee paddle just fine, which I dont do too much of since my primary reason for paddling is still surf conditioning.

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while we're on here.....im on socal and need to get my hands ona 12 fotter/stock board. figure it'd be great for training purposes when i only have an hour or so to paddle. if any of you know someone with a beat one..please let me know.


shshshshsh.....I did a 13 mile race in dec! gracias for the inspiration you damn freak! R2R is on the list for this ummer

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Originally Posted By: 20W-50 and blood
while we're on here.....im on socal and need to get my hands ona 12 fotter/stock board. figure it'd be great for training purposes when i only have an hour or so to paddle. if any of you know someone with a beat one..please let me know.


shshshshsh.....I did a 13 mile race in dec! gracias for the inspiration you damn freak! R2R is on the list for this ummer


No. Iím first in line.


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Originally Posted By: 20W-50 and blood
while we're on here.....im on socal and need to get my hands ona 12 fotter/stock board. figure it'd be great for training purposes when i only have an hour or so to paddle. if any of you know someone with a beat one..please let me know.


shshshshsh.....I did a 13 mile race in dec! gracias for the inspiration you damn freak! R2R is on the list for this ummer



YES YES YES YES YES!!! Way to go, Vato!

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while we're on here.....im on socal and need to get my hands ona 12 fotter/stock board. figure it'd be great for training purposes when i only have an hour or so to paddle. if any of you know someone with a beat one..please let me know.


shshshshsh.....I did a 13 mile race in dec! gracias for the inspiration you damn freak! R2R is on the list for this ummer






YES YES YES YES YES!!! Way to go, Vato!


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As soon as I get the money I am getting a surftech 12'. lost the board I was using off my roof racks on a windy day and missing the workouts.

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Originally Posted By: sh3
Agree 100% with Zander. Surftech Commander with the wide tail. At your weight, it's the optimal board. It really is exactly what Joe would shape you for a custom.

Volume is less important than on a surfboard, but if you've got too little it SUCKS. If you've got too much, and you're just looking to duff around on the thing, it's not as big a deal. If you do want to race, get the right one.

As for the ghost carbon construction, if you are lucky enough to find a used one, GET IT. It's way lighter than the normal ST construction and the board is perfect.

And Zander... do I know you? You're not Jebidiah with a Z, are you? Have you done any northern hemisphere races?

-ShShSh


So where can I go buy one of these things? Craigslist doesnít have shit....


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to piggyback off this question - what's up with these and why so cheap?
Info says flat bottom. Do the Surftech Barks have a hull bottom?

https://veslpaddleboards.com/paddle-boar...ripes-blue.html

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Originally Posted By: tedshred5
to piggyback off this question - what's up with these and why so cheap?
Info says flat bottom. Do the Surftech Barks have a hull bottom?

https://veslpaddleboards.com/paddle-boar...ripes-blue.html


Ultra shit quality.


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Originally Posted By: tedshred5
to piggyback off this question - what's up with these and why so cheap?
Info says flat bottom. Do the Surftech Barks have a hull bottom?

https://veslpaddleboards.com/paddle-boar...ripes-blue.html

don't know about the rest...but the commander ones definitely are rounded/hull bottoms

check your pm box

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Originally Posted By: Duffy
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to piggyback off this question - what's up with these and why so cheap?
Info says flat bottom. Do the Surftech Barks have a hull bottom?

https://veslpaddleboards.com/paddle-boar...ripes-blue.html


Ultra shit quality.


The quality is probably ok but I wouldnít support anyone who blatantly scans and copies someone elseís board and sells it on their own. There was a huge drama where jack bark showed the commander file over layed onto this and they were exactly the same.

As to the ghost carbon any surftech dealer or paddle shop can get them. Many of the guys I paddle with bought used ones but they took 1-2 months to find them.

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Originally Posted By: tedshred5
to piggyback off this question - what's up with these and why so cheap?
Info says flat bottom. Do the Surftech Barks have a hull bottom?

https://veslpaddleboards.com/paddle-boar...ripes-blue.html


It's probably cheap because the design is slow and the materials suck. I know a few shapers that experiment with a little bit of concave on their hulls but not full flat bottoms like this. I cant imagine those cut through water like a good paddleboard should.

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Originally Posted By: crotchgrab
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to piggyback off this question - what's up with these and why so cheap?
Info says flat bottom. Do the Surftech Barks have a hull bottom?

https://veslpaddleboards.com/paddle-boar...ripes-blue.html


It's probably cheap because the design is slow and the materials suck. I know a few shapers that experiment with a little bit of concave on their hulls but not full flat bottoms like this. I cant imagine those cut through water like a good paddleboard should.


Concave is great on paddleboards. It really really helps with stability. Most Molokai boards actually have a rounded hull into a double concave

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to piggyback off this question - what's up with these and why so cheap?
Info says flat bottom. Do the Surftech Barks have a hull bottom?

https://veslpaddleboards.com/paddle-boar...ripes-blue.html


It's probably cheap because the design is slow and the materials suck. I know a few shapers that experiment with a little bit of concave on their hulls but not full flat bottoms like this. I cant imagine those cut through water like a good paddleboard should.


Concave is great on paddleboards. It really really helps with stability. Most Molokai boards actually have a rounded hull into a double concave


Yeah, the concaves I see from some of those shapers look really good and i imagine allows you to go narrower with more stability.
Didnt know about the double concaves, though. very interesting.

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Agree 100% with Zander. Surftech Commander with the wide tail. At your weight, it's the optimal board. It really is exactly what Joe would shape you for a custom.

Volume is less important than on a surfboard, but if you've got too little it SUCKS. If you've got too much, and you're just looking to duff around on the thing, it's not as big a deal. If you do want to race, get the right one.

As for the ghost carbon construction, if you are lucky enough to find a used one, GET IT. It's way lighter than the normal ST construction and the board is perfect.

And Zander... do I know you? You're not Jebidiah with a Z, are you? Have you done any northern hemisphere races?

-ShShSh


So where can I go buy one of these things? Craigslist doesnít have shit....


Try eatonsurf.com

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Yeah, might get that one. Iíd like a little more volume but maybe work with that one for a bit then give it to the wifey...


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The Bark Commanders are great stock boards. I have one at home that I paddle and even though people always say I should be on a 14' board (I'm kinda big), I like the nimbleness of a stock board and I'm not racing, just trying to have fun and stay in shape.


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The Bark Commanders are great stock boards. I have one at home that I paddle and even though people always say I should be on a 14' board (I'm kinda big), I like the nimbleness of a stock board and I'm not racing, just trying to have fun and stay in shape.


How much do you weigh?


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The Bark Commanders are great stock boards. I have one at home that I paddle and even though people always say I should be on a 14' board (I'm kinda big), I like the nimbleness of a stock board and I'm not racing, just trying to have fun and stay in shape.


If you ever get a new board either get the new commander WT or go custom. In Australia people of all weights paddle 10í6, 12í0, or 18í0. The volume is dependent on the paddler size. For example DEEP ocean boards makes for paddlers that go up in 5kg increments ie: 55kg 60kg etc all the way up to 90kg. And 10í6 clubby boards are designed for some people that are 100+ kgs

The first stock bark I had was horrible to knee paddle and not stable at all. I didnít know there was different volumes and whatnot as their are no dims on the boards. I then custom ordered a JM built for my weight the thing was super easy to knee paddle. Now Iím on the wide tail commander bark and weigh in the 180ís and no worries for me on a stock board

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I'm 6'4" 200 lbs, and my board is just a stock Commander. Definitely hard to get used to knee paddling, but you get used to it. I go back and forth from my knees to prone anyway to switch positions and relive pressure on my back, knees, and ankles.


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i bottom out at the 14 mark...but woudl love a 12 footer for the sake of wokring out/improving knee paddle balance.

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any socal guys ever want to log in some prone MILES or do that cabrillo-long beach downwind, please let me know. always game.

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I'm going to pick up a board in the next few weeks, as soon as I find somewhere to store it (van's a little small). But I am definitely down.


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Originally Posted By: 20W-50 and blood
where you at?


Iím in Santa BŠrbara.


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I'm going to pick up a board in the next few weeks, as soon as I find somewhere to store it (van's a little small). But I am definitely down.

where you at man?

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where you at?


Iím in Santa BŠrbara.

might have my 14 footer up if interested

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where you at?


Iím in Santa BŠrbara.

might have my 14 footer up if interested


youíre selling it?


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Originally Posted By: 20W-50 and blood
i bottom out at the 14 mark...but woudl love a 12 footer for the sake of wokring out/improving knee paddle balance.

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any socal guys ever want to log in some prone MILES or do that cabrillo-long beach downwind, please let me know. always game.


Iím down! Iíll be up your way for the cold hands paddle. Letís have an er bb prone zone meet up!!

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when is it? that's teh short one right? sh!t...i'll be at the back of the pack...but so game. check your pm box.

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when is it? that's teh short one right? sh!t...i'll be at the back of the pack...but so game. check your pm box.


https://paddleguru.com/races/ColdHandsPaddle

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where you at?


Iím in Santa BŠrbara.

might have my 14 footer up if interested


I'm in the LA area during the week, Ventura on weekends, but I'm mobile. Definitely interested in the 14 footer, pm me, it's all dependent on finding a good place to store the thing


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Originally Posted By: youcantbeserious
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where you at?


Iím in Santa BŠrbara.

might have my 14 footer up if interested


I'm in the LA area during the week, Ventura on weekends, but I'm mobile. Definitely interested in the 14 footer, pm me, it's all dependent on finding a good place to store the thing


I already got dibs.


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Shoots! Maybe when I pick one up we can paddle, if we involve ______ it will be an 18 mile survival mission.


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Originally Posted By: youcantbeserious
Shoots! Maybe when I pick one up we can paddle, if we involve ______ it will be an 18 mile survival mission.


I borrowed one last week (14 foot Commander) and went about 4 miles on it. Wasnít too bad.

18 would be a stretch... crazy2


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Some paddle boyz!
Right on!

I used to have a Joe Bark. Got if from a Malibu loc, Johnny Nation. Prone or knee paddle it.
Some of ya who have read my lil' posts here on Thee erbb might know that I'm from L.A.
F**kin' L.A. Luv it hate it, what~ever, there's some bitchin' people here in this great city, ya know?

I would sometimes paddle that Bark from Bay St,
where DogTown has it's roots, down to Venice Pier, back to SM Pier, back to thee ol' surf~shop.
5 or so miles, fun sheee~it.

Got rid of that paddle board, got a sit~on~top kayak,
have paddled every mile of thee L.A. Bay. F**k callin' it Santa Monica's Bay, it's L.A.'s Bay!!!
From Rat Beach to that buoy that's 1 mile or so off PV, allll along L.A.'s coastine, Leo up to Magu/Tit Rock, what ever's ya wanna call it+back? Trancas to Leo+back? Pt. Dume to SM Pier? Malibu Pier to SM Pier? Topanga to Pt. Dume+back: 28 miles? Some here might dig paddlin' thee Venice Canals to MDR Breakwall to SM Pier + back? Latigo to Big Dume+back, fun/pretty. Sunset to thee DWP ground cables 1 mile off~shore to Topanga + back? Sunset to SM Pier at night + back? 10 miles out, 10 miles back to shore at 180/185į before the sun sets in January? Sure. Usually by myself. Not gone to Catalina yet, no, not leave from PV, but from the beaches of SM/Venice, still a few by L.A. adventures to have before I die. Be fun to meet a few of ya who wanna paddle L.A., take you on an adventure maybe. Or you boyz can take me on 1 here in L.A.

Watch out for sharks though,
you are just splashin'/flappin' around on thee surface of the water, ya know?
They say that shark attacks are rare, you have a greater chance of bein' struck by lightning, yada~yada~yada. But if you are thee only dude{s} out there in thee ocean miles from shore? You are just like a bug in an aquarium, dig? Bet that your lil' pet fish will eat any bug in your aquarium if ya toss 1 in there, watch it doggie~paddle, get attacked, bitten, eaten. Be care~full what~ever ya paddle out there...
shark

A lil' edit, ok?
For you who paddle:


I kinda like these 2 images below, I have never shared them online before.
A coupla dudes out early, before work, sooo glassy, warm. Time for a paddle.
That's a nice Joe Bark, no?

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Hahaha.

These dudes had no clue, what had just happened behind them. Junior is playing. Or hunting?
I've heard the sound many times, you'll obviously hear thee splash, but they did not look, would you?
I pre~focused my Canon dslr, hoped it would happen, it did. Bitchin', hard to get photograph of this lil' sharks breach in that split second of air~time. But that said, where is Big Momma or Daddy,
for you know that they live out there 24/7 too, right? So ah, how far ya wanna paddle?
shark
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Shoots! Maybe when I pick one up we can paddle, if we involve ______ it will be an 18 mile survival mission.


I borrowed one last week (14 foot Commander) and went about 4 miles on it. Wasnít too bad.

18 would be a stretch... crazy2

i liek teh thought of 18....furthest ive gone so far is 14....but im game for eighteen...just gotta get a little more water time....this last month has been a B1tch

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Man... walk away for a few days and miss a ton. I'm on here only sporadically. In any event, Cold Hands is March 2. The infamous JP will likely be there, as well as lurker Max Power.

March 2 - let's do it.

See you there, Vato. For those that don't know me, as 20W which skinny white guy I am. My name is Steve, btw.

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Originally Posted By: 20W-50 and blood
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Shoots! Maybe when I pick one up we can paddle, if we involve ______ it will be an 18 mile survival mission.


I borrowed one last week (14 foot Commander) and went about 4 miles on it. Wasnít too bad.

18 would be a stretch... crazy2

i liek teh thought of 18....furthest ive gone so far is 14....but im game for eighteen...just gotta get a little more water time....this last month has been a B1tch


18's are are handful to paddle if you haven't put in the hours on them, and can be more effort to get them to work well than a stock or 14.

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Mountain Biking is More Fun ! Steve wave2


I ride a mountain bike.

I also surf.

Both are fun.

Staying in shape for catching more waves makes surfing even more fun.


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In 2 hours , how much is spent having Fun ?

Surfing vs. Mountain biking

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Originally Posted By: Greg Griffin
In 2 hours , how much is spent having Fun ?

Surfing vs. Mountain biking


Mountain bike: I ride up hill for 1:45, suffering the whole way, and get to the bottom in :15.

Surfing: love every second of it. Paddling out, getting worked, riding waves...


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Shoots! Maybe when I pick one up we can paddle, if we involve ______ it will be an 18 mile survival mission.


I borrowed one last week (14 foot Commander) and went about 4 miles on it. Wasnít too bad.

18 would be a stretch... crazy2

i liek teh thought of 18....furthest ive gone so far is 14....but im game for eighteen...just gotta get a little more water time....this last month has been a B1tch


18's are are handful to paddle if you haven't put in the hours on them, and can be more effort to get them to work well than a stock or 14.

meant miles.....ill paddle anything. looks liek ill be borrowing astock for a month.....sink factor!

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You've got me by 10 lbs or so and my 12' ST Commander Pro Elite is easily my favorite over a custom Bark 12 and two 18' boards I had previously (I don't race, first ever race was a catastrophe, and also do it for fun and fitness). I went to a local shop and asked the guy if if he'd trade my 20 Franklins cash out the door for the new Commander and it was a done deal. It's about 4 years later and I've forgotten about the money and still love that board.

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Just go to the darkside, get a downwind SUP. Then you can see the sharks better.
I like my Star Board All-Star 14'


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Originally Posted By: 20W-50 and blood
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Shoots! Maybe when I pick one up we can paddle, if we involve ______ it will be an 18 mile survival mission.


I borrowed one last week (14 foot Commander) and went about 4 miles on it. Wasnít too bad.

18 would be a stretch... crazy2

i liek teh thought of 18....furthest ive gone so far is 14....but im game for eighteen...just gotta get a little more water time....this last month has been a B1tch


18's are are handful to paddle if you haven't put in the hours on them, and can be more effort to get them to work well than a stock or 14.

meant miles.....ill paddle anything. looks liek ill be borrowing astock for a month.....sink factor!


haha i skim read that totally wrong!

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FYI:

Joe's website has a used board marketplace. There's a 14' ST Commander in there...

https://www.joebark.com/used-board-marketplace/

It's AST, meaning it's the "more durable" (read: heavier) construction. Great for touring if you're not a racer. If you are a new racer, a perfect board too. [experienced racers will want a lighter board for the bump]

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Originally Posted By: Duffy
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In 2 hours , how much is spent having Fun ?

Surfing vs. Mountain biking


Mountain bike: I ride up hill for 1:45, suffering the whole way, and get to the bottom in :15.

Surfing: love every second of it. Paddling out, getting worked, riding waves...



HAHAHAHA!!! Welcome to Romero Canyon.

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Originally Posted By: sh3
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In 2 hours , how much is spent having Fun ?

Surfing vs. Mountain biking


Mountain bike: I ride up hill for 1:45, suffering the whole way, and get to the bottom in :15.

Surfing: love every second of it. Paddling out, getting worked, riding waves...



HAHAHAHA!!! Welcome to Romero Canyon.


Yup. Havenít been up there since the mudslides though.


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Originally Posted By: sh3
FYI:

Joe's website has a used board marketplace. There's a 14' ST Commander in there...

https://www.joebark.com/used-board-marketplace/

It's AST, meaning it's the "more durable" (read: heavier) construction. Great for touring if you're not a racer. If you are a new racer, a perfect board too. [experienced racers will want a lighter board for the bump]


Yeah, I contacted that guy and he said he had a couple buyers already lined up. Maybe they fell through. Iím currently trying to get together with 20w50 to buy his.


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Originally Posted By: sh3
FYI:

Joe's website has a used board marketplace. There's a 14' ST Commander in there...

https://www.joebark.com/used-board-marketplace/

It's AST, meaning it's the "more durable" (read: heavier) construction. Great for touring if you're not a racer. If you are a new racer, a perfect board too. [experienced racers will want a lighter board for the bump]


How much heavier?


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Originally Posted By: Duffy
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FYI:

Joe's website has a used board marketplace. There's a 14' ST Commander in there...

https://www.joebark.com/used-board-marketplace/

It's AST, meaning it's the "more durable" (read: heavier) construction. Great for touring if you're not a racer. If you are a new racer, a perfect board too. [experienced racers will want a lighter board for the bump]


How much heavier?


I have this board currently & itís a shade under 30lbs. Iím working on replacing it b/c, like 3sh said, Iím more of a racer & want a lighter board.

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Originally Posted By: njsurfer42
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FYI:

Joe's website has a used board marketplace. There's a 14' ST Commander in there...

https://www.joebark.com/used-board-marketplace/

It's AST, meaning it's the "more durable" (read: heavier) construction. Great for touring if you're not a racer. If you are a new racer, a perfect board too. [experienced racers will want a lighter board for the bump]


How much heavier?


I have this board currently & itís a shade under 30lbs. Iím working on replacing it b/c, like 3sh said, Iím more of a racer & want a lighter board.


How much does the Pro Elite 14 weigh?


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Originally Posted By: Duffy
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FYI:

Joe's website has a used board marketplace. There's a 14' ST Commander in there...

https://www.joebark.com/used-board-marketplace/

It's AST, meaning it's the "more durable" (read: heavier) construction. Great for touring if you're not a racer. If you are a new racer, a perfect board too. [experienced racers will want a lighter board for the bump]


How much heavier?


I have this board currently & itís a shade under 30lbs. Iím working on replacing it b/c, like 3sh said, Iím more of a racer & want a lighter board.


How much does the Pro Elite 14 weigh?


Iím not sure; maybe someone can chime in w/ it. The original 12í Commander was right around 20-21lbs.
That said, Ive done more than a few races on my AST 14í & itís done ok. The additional weight does seem to help it maintain forward momentum, especially in cross chop. It handles tight spaces poorly, though. Iíve paddled 18í ULs that handled turns better.

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FYI:

Joe's website has a used board marketplace. There's a 14' ST Commander in there...

https://www.joebark.com/used-board-marketplace/

It's AST, meaning it's the "more durable" (read: heavier) construction. Great for touring if you're not a racer. If you are a new racer, a perfect board too. [experienced racers will want a lighter board for the bump]


How much heavier?


I have this board currently & itís a shade under 30lbs. Iím working on replacing it b/c, like 3sh said, Iím more of a racer & want a lighter board.


How much does the Pro Elite 14 weigh?


Iím not sure; maybe someone can chime in w/ it. The original 12í Commander was right around 20-21lbs.
That said, Ive done more than a few races on my AST 14í & itís done ok. The additional weight does seem to help it maintain forward momentum, especially in cross chop. It handles tight spaces poorly, though. Iíve paddled 18í ULs that handled turns better.


Pro Elite 14 will weight about 4-5 pounds lighter, so around 23-24 pounds. For reference, the Pro Elite 12 Commander (not the ghost carbon) weighs 21.5 pounds.

As for Romero, since these rains it's been a nightmare of cobblestones. It's just not fun after a rain washes away all the dirt/sand. As for the slides, those made the whole bottom 25% completely different and the bridge was washed away and destroyed. There's a new river crossing now that you have to negotiate right at the intro to the fire road. By the 4 mile mark near the single track trail head, it's also a significant water crossing that's pretty tough to negotiate.

When the water isn't as brown, it shall be time to paddle and surf (not in that order).

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Steve, is there a ghost carbon 14í in the works? Thatíd be pretty awesome...

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Not that I've been advised of. Not that I'm the be-all-end-all, but I think I'd know if it was coming. I'm usually told about these things.

Then again, I'm not tight with the new ST execs.

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Bought 20w50ís board the other day and today I paddled it to the Chris Brown memorial.

I actually like the way the the heavier AST construction paddles better than the lighter one I borrowed a couple weeks ago.


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What is AST construction?

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What is AST construction?


https://www.surftech.com/prone/bark-commander-ast-140


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Thats the construction I have. I paddle in chop quite often and found it holds its glide really well.

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Just think of ST as having two main paddleboard constructions.

AST is the first. It's billed as being "more durable," which means it IS more durable but also heavier.

Pro-Elite is the second. It's the "pro" way to go, so it's lighter and less durable. It's still durable, frankly. It's ST, after all. [TufLite is the new ghost carbon. It's basically just a sanded down Pro-Elite, so lighter still with the carbon slightly showing through.]

Here's a link to the original introduction film, which is also on ST's website (I laughed watching this little trip down memory lane, which starts with JP and I paddling in Florida): https://vimeo.com/69664389


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Here's a link to the original introduction film, which is also on ST's website (I laughed watching this little trip down memory lane, which starts with JP and I paddling in Florida): https://vimeo.com/69664389


id hit it

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Shoots! Maybe when I pick one up we can paddle, if we involve ______ it will be an 18 mile survival mission.

sooooo....

give it two months....any of you psychos down? 14 miles?16? 18? 20? I'm down. start north sd county and head north? i can con my sister or brother into driving my truck to meet us at the destination....can get one extra board on top, and if any of you paddle a stock we can throw/strap that one in the bed. mad bbq after or say piss on it and head somewhere after for grub?

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ps...just borrowed a ghost carbon 12 commander...holy FUGGG this thing is light...and im actually in love with the paint

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Shoots! Maybe when I pick one up we can paddle, if we involve ______ it will be an 18 mile survival mission.

sooooo....

give it two months....any of you psychos down? 14 miles?16? 18? 20? I'm down. start north sd county and head north? i can con my sister or brother into driving my truck to meet us at the destination....can get one extra board on top, and if any of you paddle a stock we can throw/strap that one in the bed. mad bbq after or say piss on it and head somewhere after for grub?


Damn! Wish I were in town. Sounds like a hell of a plan

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Shoots! Maybe when I pick one up we can paddle, if we involve ______ it will be an 18 mile survival mission.

sooooo....

give it two months....any of you psychos down? 14 miles?16? 18? 20? I'm down. start north sd county and head north? i can con my sister or brother into driving my truck to meet us at the destination....can get one extra board on top, and if any of you paddle a stock we can throw/strap that one in the bed. mad bbq after or say piss on it and head somewhere after for grub?


Damn! Wish I were in town. Sounds like a hell of a plan


If I were on the west coast, Iíd 100% be down for this.

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Shoots! Maybe when I pick one up we can paddle, if we involve ______ it will be an 18 mile survival mission.

sooooo....

give it two months....any of you psychos down? 14 miles?16? 18? 20? I'm down. start north sd county and head north? i can con my sister or brother into driving my truck to meet us at the destination....can get one extra board on top, and if any of you paddle a stock we can throw/strap that one in the bed. mad bbq after or say piss on it and head somewhere after for grub?


Damn! Wish I were in town. Sounds like a hell of a plan


If I were on the west coast, Iíd 100% be down for this.


I don't know man........


.....sounds like a lot of work.


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Shoots! Maybe when I pick one up we can paddle, if we involve ______ it will be an 18 mile survival mission.

sooooo....

give it two months....any of you psychos down? 14 miles?16? 18? 20? I'm down. start north sd county and head north? i can con my sister or brother into driving my truck to meet us at the destination....can get one extra board on top, and if any of you paddle a stock we can throw/strap that one in the bed. mad bbq after or say piss on it and head somewhere after for grub?


Damn! Wish I were in town. Sounds like a hell of a plan


If I were on the west coast, Iíd 100% be down for this.


I don't know man........


.....sounds like a lot of work.


Meh. Thereís a 22 miler here in June that I do every year & a 17 miler across the Delaware Bay in August that I do as well. Havenít taken part in the NYSEA race around Manhattan, but thatís around 25 miles. If itís flat itís a bit of a grind, but downwind would be stupid fun.

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I don't know man........


.....sounds like a lot of work.


Meh. Thereís a 22 miler here in June that I do every year & a 17 miler across the Delaware Bay in August that I do as well. Havenít taken part in the NYSEA race around Manhattan, but thatís around 25 miles. If itís flat itís a bit of a grind, but downwind would be stupid fun.


That's a lot of paddling cheers

I thought I was in pretty good paddling shape until I did a paddle from Garbage down to the tip of Point Loma and back. There was one point when a NW headwind kicked up that I wasn't completely sure I'd be able to make it back. Can't imagine doing double that distance.


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I've heard that a lot of guys will paddle to Point Loma and back home to surf a certain right. Whether from Garbage or Coronado. Always seemed like a fun prospect to me.

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I don't know man........


.....sounds like a lot of work.


Meh. Thereís a 22 miler here in June that I do every year & a 17 miler across the Delaware Bay in August that I do as well. Havenít taken part in the NYSEA race around Manhattan, but thatís around 25 miles. If itís flat itís a bit of a grind, but downwind would be stupid fun.


That's a lot of paddling cheers

I thought I was in pretty good paddling shape until I did a paddle from Garbage down to the tip of Point Loma and back. There was one point when a NW headwind kicked up that I wasn't completely sure I'd be able to make it back. Can't imagine doing double that distance.


I find it to be very ďzenĒ...some people go running, cycling, or to the gym to lift weights. I paddle. It fills the flat spells & gets me on the water. I started out doing lifeguard racing, but my predisposition is to long distance. 10 miles is no biggie, 15+ takes some planning.

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give it two months....any of you psychos down? 14 miles?16? 18? 20? I'm down. start north sd county and head north? i can con my sister or brother into driving my truck to meet us at the destination....can get one extra board on top, and if any of you paddle a stock we can throw/strap that one in the bed. mad bbq after or say piss on it and head somewhere after for grub?


Damn! Wish I were in town. Sounds like a hell of a plan [/quote]

If I were on the west coast, Iíd 100% be down for this. [/quote]

I don't know man........


.....sounds like a lot of work. [/quote]

17 miler across the Delaware Bay in August that I do as well. [/quote]
any details? got interest

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Shoots! Maybe when I pick one up we can paddle, if we involve ______ it will be an 18 mile survival mission.

sooooo....

give it two months....any of you psychos down? 14 miles?16? 18? 20? I'm down. start north sd county and head north? i can con my sister or brother into driving my truck to meet us at the destination....can get one extra board on top, and if any of you paddle a stock we can throw/strap that one in the bed. mad bbq after or say piss on it and head somewhere after for grub?


Damn! Wish I were in town. Sounds like a hell of a plan


If I were on the west coast, Iíd 100% be down for this.


I don't know man........


.....sounds like a lot of work.

i'm game for somethign shorter......always stoked to be on the water. got hookedup with a stock/12er for the next week or so...here's to sinking!!!!!

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17 miler across the Delaware Bay in August that I do as well.

any details? got interest



Sent you a pm

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Which construction is stronger, pro elite or ghost?


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Which construction is stronger, pro elite or ghost?


Iíd assume pro elite is stronger

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4+ mile quickie tomorrow in norht oc at the buttcrack of dawn if anyone interested. pm me

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4+ mile quickie tomorrow in norht oc at the buttcrack of dawn if anyone interested. pm me


cant make it tomorrow, but lets do the race in LA on the 3rd. Maybe get some other erbb guys and have food/beers after?

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ill def be there....returning a borrowed board. don't know if ill be handing it over for someone else to use or if i've got one last swing on it...but ill def be there. will shoot you a PM

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just did a quick five miles on the Bark 12 ghost carbon commander (wider tail than reg commander?)....

HOLY fugging F()GGGG that board is fun to paddle! Suprised at how well it floated my 204 lbs...and damn the thing just felt lively fun in the water..no problems knee paddling...soooo light! I just dropped $ for a big boy 14 commander...but now i REALLLLLLLLLLY want one of these for shorter paddles.

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Just got out of the water. Did an hour. Donít know how far. The only time I mind the weight of the ast is when Iím carrying it back to the car.

Looking to get another board for the wife. Probably a pro elite 14 but maybe 12 ghost for me and the ast for her...


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You guys should get on an interval training regimen. That's when my paddling went complete next level.

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You guys should get on an interval training regimen. That's when my paddling went complete next level.


Does that include dead lifts?


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just did a quick five miles on the Bark 12 ghost carbon commander (wider tail than reg commander?)....

HOLY fugging F()GGGG that board is fun to paddle! Suprised at how well it floated my 204 lbs...and damn the thing just felt lively fun in the water..no problems knee paddling...soooo light! I just dropped $ for a big boy 14 commander...but now i REALLLLLLLLLLY want one of these for shorter paddles.



if its the blue one it has a wider tail...super stable thats the one I paddle. I honestly dont think anyone really needs a 14 either go stock or all out UL!

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Which construction is stronger, pro elite or ghost?


Iíd assume pro elite is stronger


I am not impress wit the strength of the ghost carbon but ive never had a pro-elite. All i can compare to is my full carbon JM which was much more durable and never had to be taken in for repair. Ive had several small cracks on the ghost and had to have the tail professionally repaired. Still love the board and the shape but im not hailing its durability.

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Which construction is stronger, pro elite or ghost?


Iíd assume pro elite is stronger


I am not impress wit the strength of the ghost carbon but ive never had a pro-elite. All i can compare to is my full carbon JM which was much more durable and never had to be taken in for repair. Ive had several small cracks on the ghost and had to have the tail professionally repaired. Still love the board and the shape but im not hailing its durability.


I can see that. The only thing I really like about the ghost carbon vs pro elite (keeping in mind Iíve only ghost carbon in pics) is that the ghost carbon is matte finish instead of glossy. I just like the aesthetic aspect of that.

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going out from n. ponto tomorrow AM early... PM me if interested

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going out from n. ponto tomorrow AM early... PM me if interested


Iím going at 6:30 am with the NCP crew from Cardiff reef tomorrow morning

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going out from n. ponto tomorrow AM early... PM me if interested


Iím going at 6:30 am with the NCP crew from Cardiff reef tomorrow morning


Turns out some developers need to have a call with me at 8am Costa Rica time.... Really f-ing up my morning

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going out from n. ponto tomorrow AM early... PM me if interested


Iím going at 6:30 am with the NCP crew from Cardiff reef tomorrow morning


keep your rear end away from the Buckingham twins.

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going out from n. ponto tomorrow AM early... PM me if interested


Iím going at 6:30 am with the NCP crew from Cardiff reef tomorrow morning


Turns out some developers need to have a call with me at 8am Costa Rica time.... Really f-ing up my morning


Bummer...send me a PM and letís link up for a morning paddle. Flexible mornings as long as Iím in the office by 10am

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I snuck out yesterday evening for a memorable one - LaJolla Shores to Black's, couple waves, back to the shores. Glass all the way!!! We'll link up soon.

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I picked up a 10'0" glider instead of a regular paddleboard. Had to. It fits in the van (barely) and I can paddle and surf the thing on super small days (there are lots of those). Going to try to the PV peninsula next weekend if the conditions cooperate. Might finally get to surf Lunada and not have to park.


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I picked up a 10'0" glider instead of a regular paddleboard. Had to. It fits in the van (barely) and I can paddle and surf the thing on super small days (there are lots of those). Going to try to the PV peninsula next weekend if the conditions cooperate. Might finally get to surf Lunada and not have to park.
That's what I had, 10'6' very fun to do downwinders riding waves along the way, even did a few races on it.

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I think I want to take the glider approach as well. I talked to a guy with a Aleutian Juice PSV that really tempts me... once I have some spare coin.

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I think I want to take the glider approach as well. I talked to a guy with a Aleutian Juice PSV that really tempts me... once I have some spare coin.


Just my 2 cents here...

...Iíve always preferred specialized equipment over hybrid type stuff. It seems to me that while those PSVs are cool they really just turn out to be a mediocre surfboard combined with a mediocre paddle board.

IMHO (and learned from experience) itís better to have two pieces of specific equipment that are excellent at what they do rather than one piece thatís mediocre at two things.

Kind of like a hybrid bicycle. Sure you can ride it on the road and in the dirt but in the end itís just a shitty mountain bike AND a shitty road bike.


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I was kind of hoping someone would chime in with something like that actually.

I currently do long paddles on an old 10' log around sunset cliffs, but the most I've done is around 4 miles round trip, but I really liked checking out a bunch of waves I don't normally surf along the way.

How much of a difference is there in range/pace between a 12' glider and a stock board for an average joe?

If part of my priority is riding a few really out of the way small waves, does that make the hybrid trade off more worth it?

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crotchgrab wont STFU about his adventure board from Joe Bark (which is a bit of a hybrid). I'll let him babble on about how he might get rid of his proper Bark Commander.

I hear tell that the Malloy bros. would paddle their adventure boards to the channel islands, ride some waves, paddle back to the mainland. Of course, they'd pack a lunch.

If I had time for adventures, I'd be all about it. Not sure if I agree 100% with the hybrid bike analogy... or maybe I do. Sometimes you aren't concerned about going super fast and wearing lycra. You want to pack a lunch, travel a long distance with relative ease, and hop over a curb and ride down a dirt path without breaking your front fork or knocking your fillings loose. Seems reasonable.

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I was kind of hoping someone would chime in with something like that actually.

I currently do long paddles on an old 10' log around sunset cliffs, but the most I've done is around 4 miles round trip, but I really liked checking out a bunch of waves I don't normally surf along the way.

How much of a difference is there in range/pace between a 12' glider and a stock board for an average joe?

If part of my priority is riding a few really out of the way small waves, does that make the hybrid trade off more worth it?


Honestly I canít make that decision for you.

For me going for a paddle and going to get some surf are two different things. I have a 9í6 longboard if I want to go hunt down some ankle slappers but Iím not going to do any long paddles on it.

Truth be told I need that scooped out deck to keep my neck from going haywire.

Bottom line is that itís up to each person to do what they want to do.


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crotchgrab wont STFU about his adventure board from Joe Bark (which is a bit of a hybrid). I'll let him babble on about how he might get rid of his proper Bark Commander.

I hear tell that the Malloy bros. would paddle their adventure boards to the channel islands, ride some waves, paddle back to the mainland. Of course, they'd pack a lunch.

If I had time for adventures, I'd be all about it. Not sure if I agree 100% with the hybrid bike analogy... or maybe I do. Sometimes you aren't concerned about going super fast and wearing lycra. You want to pack a lunch, travel a long distance with relative ease, and hop over a curb and ride down a dirt path without breaking your front fork or knocking your fillings loose. Seems reasonable.


Sure, but I just donít do that. If I want dirt Iíll ride my mountain bike. If I want to do a 4 hour road ride Iíll on the Cervelo. If Iím picking up groceries Iím on the basket bike.

But thatís just me.

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I have a paddle/surf hybrid that bark has been making for years. As sixty mentioned, he designed it with the Malloy brothers for monster paddle/surf missions. I have the second iteration from the original run they did. It's 12'6 and looks basically like a glider.

As for prone specific vs glider/hybrid? I've reached a firm conclusion that I'm keeping both boards. The utter speed and distance I can cover (not to mention the comfort of the chest rise) on the prone is startling compared to even the hybrid. If its dead flat and I just want to get some real work and miles in, the prone is an easy choice.
My hybrid is really, really fun for small days where I'll cruise down the coast and stroke into sets as they come. I can literally ride a 6" wave on that thing. Still a great workout and more playful but much tougher to just put my head down and paddle far.
Get a real prone first then take it from there. There's no real comparison.

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Okay, that's exactly what I needed to hear! Thanks guys!

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One of those hybrids would have been perfect for today....


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One of those hybrids would have been perfect for today....


Perfect day for it here as well. Such a blast to paddle the coast and chase down little sets.

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I have a paddle/surf hybrid that bark has been making for years. As sixty mentioned, he designed it with the Malloy brothers for monster paddle/surf missions. I have the second iteration from the original run they did. It's 12'6 and looks basically like a glider.

As for prone specific vs glider/hybrid? I've reached a firm conclusion that I'm keeping both boards. The utter speed and distance I can cover (not to mention the comfort of the chest rise) on the prone is startling compared to even the hybrid. If its dead flat and I just want to get some real work and miles in, the prone is an easy choice.
My hybrid is really, really fun for small days where I'll cruise down the coast and stroke into sets as they come. I can literally ride a 6" wave on that thing. Still a great workout and more playful but much tougher to just put my head down and paddle far.
Get a real prone first then take it from there. There's no real comparison.


I have a hybrid too. Very fun board to paddle for distance and exercise. Surfs amazing as well. I have surfed it in some very big surf and it works very well.

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I was kind of hoping someone would chime in with something like that actually.


How much of a difference is there in range/pace between a 12' glider and a stock board for an average joe?



A LOT.


The glider can cover some distance though. But if you don't want to surf it, than I would skip it.

I like the glider. Its 12 x 24.5 x 4.5 with a full belly and single fin. Can catch the smallest of bumps.

Just depends on what you want. I like paddling it long distances and catching some waves and than paddling back.

If you just want to paddle then go for a paddle board.

I was leaning toward the PSV by Aleutian Juice but ended up going with a glider with some paddling attributes. Rather than a 50/50 surf/paddle like the PSV.

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Just did my longest paddle so far. About 6-7 miles.

Yeah, I know.

It wasnít that long. I was tired at the end, though....


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Just did my longest paddle so far. About 6-7 miles.

Yeah, I know.

It wasnít that long. I was tired at the end, though....


Awesome! I did 7.65 miles on Saturday. Just under 2 hours very slow hahah

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Just did my longest paddle so far. About 6-7 miles.

Yeah, I know.

It wasnít that long. I was tired at the end, though....


Awesome! I did 7.65 miles on Saturday. Just under 2 hours very slow hahah


Mine was 1:30. It was at least 6 miles (I drove it after) but I went out to sea maybe a mile. It was also glassy.


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my return trip was basically borderline white cap to constant whitecap...until i literally got back.

still love it!!!!!

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my return trip was basically borderline white cap to constant whitecap...until i literally got back.

still love it!!!!!


Iím looking to get another 14 (pro elite). If you know of any for sale let me know.....


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...I went out to sea maybe a mile. It was also glassy.


Youíre preppin for a pack of Hammerheads to show up out there. roflmao eek

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=92qzZD99cao

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...I went out to sea maybe a mile. It was also glassy.


Youíre preppin for a pack of Hammerheads to show up out there. roflmao eek

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=92qzZD99cao


Yeah, the captioning on that video is a load of crap. Dude had a bunch of fish he caught trailing in the water and the shark wanted some.

He attacked the shark.

Some even think that the shark was on his line. I canít tell from the vid but it could be the case.


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...I went out to sea maybe a mile. It was also glassy.


Youíre preppin for a pack of Hammerheads to show up out there. roflmao eek

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=92qzZD99cao


Yeah, the captioning on that video is a load of crap. Dude had a bunch of fish he caught trailing in the water and the shark wanted some.

He attacked the shark.

Some even think that the shark was on his line. I canít tell from the vid but it could be the case.


I don't doubt it. "Shark Attack" is tired rhetoric, but still capable of generating media attention.

For the record, I just wanted to use the phrase "a pack of hammerheads" as I think its pretty funny. laugh


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Quote:
I just wanted to use the phrase "a pack of hammerheads" as I think its pretty funny.


Iím pretty sure itís called a herd of hammerheads.


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an Unkindness of Ravens and Conspiracy of Lemurs are two of my favorites


A murder of crows.


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I just wanted to use the phrase "a pack of hammerheads" as I think its pretty funny.


Iím pretty sure itís called a herd of hammerheads.


A group of sharks is called a gam, herd, frenzy, school or shiver.

But better is a "log of hammerheads".

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20W and I did around 12 miles today. Fletchers cove to grand view and back. EPIC and glassy as.

https://www.relive.cc/view/g32380900975

Next erbb paddle will be in OC somewhere and between 15-20 miles. Let’s get a crew going!!!

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I’m holding out for another 14.


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We had a crew of 8 last night for a paddle from Ledbetter. 5:30 meet ups. Maybe you can attend next week, or anyone else in the 805 area.

-Steve

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Duffy-

We had a crew of 8 last night for a paddle from Ledbetter. 5:30 meet ups. Maybe you can attend next week, or anyone else in the 805 area.

-Steve


Hell yes. When?

Tuesday?

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Duffy-

We had a crew of 8 last night for a paddle from Ledbetter. 5:30 meet ups. Maybe you can attend next week, or anyone else in the 805 area.

-Steve


i want hte invite for a saturdya or sunday in the near future, at least ten miles!!!!!!! never paddled up there

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Duffy-

We had a crew of 8 last night for a paddle from Ledbetter. 5:30 meet ups. Maybe you can attend next week, or anyone else in the 805 area.

-Steve


i want hte invite for a saturdya or sunday in the near future, at least ten miles!!!!!!! never paddled up there


10 miles? Can I drive a portion of it? smile


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Originally Posted by Duffy
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Duffy-

We had a crew of 8 last night for a paddle from Ledbetter. 5:30 meet ups. Maybe you can attend next week, or anyone else in the 805 area.

-Steve


i want hte invite for a saturdya or sunday in the near future, at least ten miles!!!!!!! never paddled up there


10 miles? Can I drive a portion of it? smile


Hahaha Duffy it’s not that bad

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Every Tuesday at 5:30 p.m. at the far end (closest to the point) of the pay lot at Leds.

Usually it's 4 or 5 guys, but last week was great. Usually we do out and backs, but if the wind is firing we might do a dw run to Summerland or some such thing.

On Thursdays I may start a meet up at East Beach at the same time as Reef-n-Run. That's a few weeks off at least, though.

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That's not what it sounds like, gaycodejoe (if that guy is still here).

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Took my new toy out for it's first spin yesterday. Did about 7 miles on the bay. It got really nasty the last mile when the wind kicked up but otherwise it was smooth and easy! I foolishly wore a long john because it was chilly when we hit the water and was way too hot, definitely not bothering in the future.

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come on sh3...what's the word? gotta be something at least 14 miles to justify that drive!!!


off allll next week!


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