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#2903085 - 01/24/19 08:18 AM Re: According to OCASIO-CORTEZ we only have 12 years left. How are you going to spend your time? [Re: Coat Hanger]
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Nuclear power now
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#2903092 - 01/24/19 08:54 AM Re: According to OCASIO-CORTEZ we only have 12 years left. How are you going to spend your time? [Re: GDaddy]
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Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Crazy how afraid people are of this woman.


Ilking the opposing party by associating them with the entirety of the rantings of their designated idiot is a proven strategy.




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#2903122 - 01/24/19 10:59 AM Re: According to OCASIO-CORTEZ we only have 12 years left. How are you going to spend your time? [Re: Surfdog]
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I think it is interesting that you cite the trends in US coal consumption in the first paragraph,
but neglect China's coal consumption trend lines...

they have been steadily decreasing coal in their mix by 1 to 2 percentage points each year
since something like 2010.

yes, they have a large population. yes, coal is quick and easy. yes, China is leaving coal
in favor of renewables.

if everyone is in a boat that is taking on water, you don't NOT bail just because the other
guy is not bailing as fast as you.
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#2903123 - 01/24/19 11:04 AM Re: According to OCASIO-CORTEZ we only have 12 years left. How are you going to spend your time? [Re: afoaf]
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Originally Posted By: afoaf
I think it is interesting that you cite the trends in US coal consumption in the first paragraph,
but neglect China's coal consumption trend lines...

they have been steadily decreasing coal in their mix by 1 to 2 percentage points each year
since something like 2010.

yes, they have a large population. yes, coal is quick and easy. yes, China is leaving coal
in favor of renewables.

if everyone is in a boat that is taking on water, you don't NOT bail just because the other
guy is not bailing as fast as you.



Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. quiet. You fool.

Speaking any louder about this will surely wake the beast known as "surfdog". monkey

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#2903127 - 01/24/19 11:12 AM Re: According to OCASIO-CORTEZ we only have 12 years left. How are you going to spend your time? [Re: afoaf]
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Originally Posted By: afoaf
I think it is interesting that you cite the trends in US coal consumption in the first paragraph,
but neglect China's coal consumption trend lines...

they have been steadily decreasing coal in their mix by 1 to 2 percentage points each year
since something like 2010.

yes, they have a large population. yes, coal is quick and easy. yes, China is leaving coal
in favor of renewables.

if everyone is in a boat that is taking on water, you don't NOT bail just because the other
guy is not bailing as fast as you.


We haven't stopped bailing. We're just not reducing as fast as the greenies want.
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#2903131 - 01/24/19 11:16 AM Re: According to OCASIO-CORTEZ we only have 12 years left. How are you going to spend your time? [Re: GDaddy]
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Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Originally Posted By: afoaf
I think it is interesting that you cite the trends in US coal consumption in the first paragraph,
but neglect China's coal consumption trend lines...

they have been steadily decreasing coal in their mix by 1 to 2 percentage points each year
since something like 2010.

yes, they have a large population. yes, coal is quick and easy. yes, China is leaving coal
in favor of renewables.

if everyone is in a boat that is taking on water, you don't NOT bail just because the other
guy is not bailing as fast as you.


We haven't stopped bailing. We're just not reducing as fast as the greenies want.
Wrong, Trump has an ex coal exec running the epa and has been rescinding every environmental regulation he can.

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#2903134 - 01/24/19 11:18 AM Re: According to OCASIO-CORTEZ we only have 12 years left. How are you going to spend your time? [Re: Coat Hanger]
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Are we building new coal plants? That would be increasing coal usage

coal usage in decline is still a declining use
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#2903137 - 01/24/19 11:20 AM Re: According to OCASIO-CORTEZ we only have 12 years left. How are you going to spend your time? [Re: GDaddy]
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Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Are we building new coal plants? That would be increasing coal usage

coal usage in decline is still a declining use


Totally true, and that's not changing because the market no longer wants it.

So the question really becomes why Trump is pandering to coal, and why Surfdog thinks that's a good idea.
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#2903140 - 01/24/19 11:23 AM Re: According to OCASIO-CORTEZ we only have 12 years left. How are you going to spend your time? [Re: StuAzole]
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also note that some of that coal capacity is being built outside of China
as well as part of their international business operations.

I wonder if US firms are also building coal capacity in developing nations.

I still have a hard time wrapping my head around this notion of not pursuing
a cleaner, more sustainable, and stable energy mix in the US just because
other countries are not.

there are reasons to do this beyond just AGW...
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#2903141 - 01/24/19 11:23 AM Re: According to OCASIO-CORTEZ we only have 12 years left. How are you going to spend your time? [Re: Coat Hanger]
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Lowest level of fines for polluters since 1994, Trump is terrible on the environment, surprising that any supposed surfers would support him.

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#2903168 - 01/24/19 11:44 AM Re: According to OCASIO-CORTEZ we only have 12 years left. How are you going to spend your time? [Re: mundus]
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Originally Posted By: mundus
Lowest level of fines for polluters since 1994, Trump is terrible on the environment, surprising that any supposed surfers would support him.


If we're lucky, he'll set up a bunch of new drill towers right off of HB and in Santa Barbara. That would be cool
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#2903170 - 01/24/19 11:55 AM Re: According to OCASIO-CORTEZ we only have 12 years left. How are you going to spend your time? [Re: StuAzole]
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Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: mundus
Lowest level of fines for polluters since 1994, Trump is terrible on the environment, surprising that any supposed surfers would support him.


If we're lucky, he'll set up a bunch of new drill towers right off of HB and in Santa Barbara. That would be cool

There's a ton in both places already. No one would care

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#2903188 - 01/24/19 12:15 PM Re: According to OCASIO-CORTEZ we only have 12 years left. How are you going to spend your time? [Re: ifallalot]
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No one would care


so false it hurts
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#2903194 - 01/24/19 12:26 PM Re: According to OCASIO-CORTEZ we only have 12 years left. How are you going to spend your time? [Re: ifallalot]
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Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: mundus
Lowest level of fines for polluters since 1994, Trump is terrible on the environment, surprising that any supposed surfers would support him.


If we're lucky, he'll set up a bunch of new drill towers right off of HB and in Santa Barbara. That would be cool

There's a ton in both places already. No one would care



I said MORE! MORE MORE MORE!
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#2903257 - 01/24/19 02:49 PM Re: According to OCASIO-CORTEZ we only have 12 years left. How are you going to spend your time? [Re: Coat Hanger]
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Drill baby, drill. We can only guess how many greenies are pissed off about those increases.
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