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Seems pretty fair, no?

How could a reasonable bloke reject?

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Isn't this pretty much the same deal the Dems offered a while back?


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Looks like Pelosi already rejected

Sad

President reached out way farther than he needed to

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I may be way wrong on this, but I think that before it's over he's going to reach further than that.


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Dems have indicated theyre not open to compromise

Doubt that Donald will negotiate against himself

Leave it shut down

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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean


President reached out way farther than he needed to


roflmao

He obviously didn't reach far enough because he didn't get a deal. poke


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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Dems have indicated theyre not open to compromise

Doubt that Donald will negotiate against himself

Leave it shut down


I thought you were against Derp State wasteful spending.

Now you want to give the government $6 billion dollars so Trump can jerk himself off?

Your ROI calculations are off again.


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Pres has other options

Leave gov shut is easiest

Him offering a compromise first was smart

Shifts burden to dems

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Wall is cheap vs unchecked border crossings

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Not being open to deal is a bad look for Dems

Anyone with any sense can see this

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Why doesn't he just declare an emergency at the border? Is it because he knows he's going to lose either way?


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Even the libertarians acknowledge that government does serve at least some fundamental purposes - starving those functions is unsustainable. A week or two is one thing, but when those workers start losing everything we're getting into the permanent damage territory.


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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Wall is cheap vs unchecked border crossings


Facts are not on your side Billy.

We don't have "open borders".


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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Not being open to deal is a bad look for Dems

Anyone with any sense can see this


Nobody likes the Wall.

The gov shutdown is Trump stomping his man-baby feet in tantrum.

Like every good parent, Nancy knows that you don't give in to baby tantrums.

Ultimately is the hysterical man-baby who looks bad.



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Did Ann Coulter approve of his plan?

Nothing will happen without her approval you know.

Sad.















But funny as heck to watch from out here.






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Wasn't it Turtle Head Mitch who said, " Elections have consequences.". There was an election, and the old deal, offered by the old Congress is off the table.


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Originally Posted By: everysurfr
Wasn't it Turtle Head Mitch who said, " Elections have consequences.". There was an election, and the old deal, offered by the old Congress is off the table.


The old deal was a pathway to citizenship; that's not what this deal is.

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the DACA and TPS concessions expire in 3 years, basically making them meaningless.

he could get his billions of dollars and then just pull the rug out from under these people
in his second term.

he is not negotiating in good faith.


damn. using courier font. that is fooking aggressive man.
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Donnie BooBoo doesn't want a deal. The longer the shutdown goes on, the longer it'll be before the IRS has any clerks available to hand his tax returns over to the Judiciary Committee.



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