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#2901945 - 01/21/19 05:33 PM Re: The real solution to the Border [Re: frvcvs]
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Originally Posted By: frvcvs
The real solution is imprisoning individuals and shutting down businesses that employ undocumented immigrants. Make it not worth their while. Take away the opportunity and you'll see border crossing grind to halt. Combine that with beefed up patrols along the border. The technology is already there. Unarmed drones with infrared cameras have no problem spotting people passing through the desert. And streamline the asylum process so those coming here for humanitarian reasons don't have to go to extremes like dragging their families through the desert.


Along with this stop the ability to transfer money to Mexico. Many people come here and send money via western union to their families in Central America and Mexico. This is a major economic drain and outflow of cash. If heads of families couldnt transfer their money back home they wouldnt come to America solo. Would be better to have the cash spent on US soil.


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#2901953 - 01/21/19 06:00 PM Re: The real solution to the Border [Re: Zander]
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Originally Posted By: Zander
Originally Posted By: frvcvs
The real solution is imprisoning individuals and shutting down businesses that employ undocumented immigrants. Make it not worth their while. Take away the opportunity and you'll see border crossing grind to halt. Combine that with beefed up patrols along the border. The technology is already there. Unarmed drones with infrared cameras have no problem spotting people passing through the desert. And streamline the asylum process so those coming here for humanitarian reasons don't have to go to extremes like dragging their families through the desert.


Along with this stop the ability to transfer money to Mexico. Many people come here and send money via western union to their families in Central America and Mexico. This is a major economic drain and outflow of cash. If heads of families couldnt transfer their money back home they wouldnt come to America solo. Would be better to have the cash spent on US soil.


I love it when sarcasm is lost...

How would you stop these transactions, exactly?
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#2901954 - 01/21/19 06:00 PM Re: The real solution to the Border [Re: Zander]
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I'm trying to think of any historic examples where the ruling government instituting capital controls was a good thing. I'm not coming up with any..

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#2901956 - 01/21/19 06:07 PM Re: The real solution to the Border [Re: the janitor]
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I'm trying to think of any historic examples where the ruling government instituting capital controls was a good thing. I'm not coming up with any..


We already have capital controls, I cant transfer money to North Korea or similar places...I am not saying I support doing this but all of the solo migration would dry up if this was done.

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#2901958 - 01/21/19 06:09 PM Re: The real solution to the Border [Re: Zander]
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Originally Posted By: Zander
Originally Posted By: frvcvs
The real solution is imprisoning individuals and shutting down businesses that employ undocumented immigrants. Make it not worth their while. Take away the opportunity and you'll see border crossing grind to halt. Combine that with beefed up patrols along the border. The technology is already there. Unarmed drones with infrared cameras have no problem spotting people passing through the desert. And streamline the asylum process so those coming here for humanitarian reasons don't have to go to extremes like dragging their families through the desert.


Along with this stop the ability to transfer money to Mexico. Many people come here and send money via western union to their families in Central America and Mexico. This is a major economic drain and outflow of cash. If heads of families couldnt transfer their money back home they wouldnt come to America solo. Would be better to have the cash spent on US soil.

Theres zero reason anyone should be allowed to send THEIR money to family or loved ones outside the US
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#2901959 - 01/21/19 06:10 PM Re: The real solution to the Border [Re: Zander]
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Originally Posted By: Zander
Originally Posted By: the janitor
I'm trying to think of any historic examples where the ruling government instituting capital controls was a good thing. I'm not coming up with any..


We already have capital controls, I cant transfer money to North Korea or similar places...I am not saying I support doing this but all of the solo migration would dry up if this was done.


But how would you implement this so only illegals were banned? Or would you rather just bar all Americans from sending money to Central America? That may not be great for our economy lol.
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#2901960 - 01/21/19 06:14 PM Re: The real solution to the Border [Re: manbearpig]
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Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: Zander
Originally Posted By: frvcvs
The real solution is imprisoning individuals and shutting down businesses that employ undocumented immigrants. Make it not worth their while. Take away the opportunity and you'll see border crossing grind to halt. Combine that with beefed up patrols along the border. The technology is already there. Unarmed drones with infrared cameras have no problem spotting people passing through the desert. And streamline the asylum process so those coming here for humanitarian reasons don't have to go to extremes like dragging their families through the desert.


Along with this stop the ability to transfer money to Mexico. Many people come here and send money via western union to their families in Central America and Mexico. This is a major economic drain and outflow of cash. If heads of families couldnt transfer their money back home they wouldnt come to America solo. Would be better to have the cash spent on US soil.

Theres zero reason anyone should be allowed to send THEIR money to family or loved ones outside the US


And just like North Zkorea, its be totally impossible to get money back home because there is no way to actually drive to Mexico and then come back! And forget using the mail. And no way some figures out how to exploit such a ban usuing crypto currency. I mean, no way!
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#2901963 - 01/21/19 06:21 PM Re: The real solution to the Border [Re: manbearpig]
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Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: Zander
Originally Posted By: frvcvs
The real solution is imprisoning individuals and shutting down businesses that employ undocumented immigrants. Make it not worth their while. Take away the opportunity and you'll see border crossing grind to halt. Combine that with beefed up patrols along the border. The technology is already there. Unarmed drones with infrared cameras have no problem spotting people passing through the desert. And streamline the asylum process so those coming here for humanitarian reasons don't have to go to extremes like dragging their families through the desert.


Along with this stop the ability to transfer money to Mexico. Many people come here and send money via western union to their families in Central America and Mexico. This is a major economic drain and outflow of cash. If heads of families couldnt transfer their money back home they wouldnt come to America solo. Would be better to have the cash spent on US soil.

Theres zero reason anyone should be allowed to send THEIR money to family or loved ones outside the US

Yup
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#2901967 - 01/21/19 06:26 PM Re: The real solution to the Border [Re: Zander]
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Originally Posted By: Zander
Originally Posted By: the janitor
I'm trying to think of any historic examples where the ruling government instituting capital controls was a good thing. I'm not coming up with any..


We already have capital controls, I cant transfer money to North Korea or similar places...I am not saying I support doing this but all of the solo migration would dry up if this was done.


OK, fair point, though this is typically done because the regime in question are deemed scumbags, not the citizens.

Tell you what, if you lump in Canada I'm willing to get on board.

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#2901968 - 01/21/19 06:29 PM Re: The real solution to the Border [Re: the janitor]
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I'm trying to think of any historic examples where the ruling government instituting capital controls was a good thing. I'm not coming up with any..


Agree

This is Brazilian shithole-esque

Just prevent illegals from entering

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