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Re: Why are POS congressmen/women travellling abroad at all? [Re: sizzld1] #2900551
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This isn't travel for work, this is commuting. I'm well aware of what gets paid for and what doesn't


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Re: Why are POS congressmen/women travellling abroad at all? [Re: sizzld1] #2900552
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Originally Posted By: sizzld1
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: sizzld1
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
And since there should never be any unanswered questions on the internets:

https://www.factcheck.org/2010/03/pelosis-party-plane/

As you'd expect, not much to see.

From your link

Claim: Pelosi spent over $100,000 on food and alcohol.
Fact: Her delegations did spend that amount, but not just on food and booze. (And Pelosi doesnt drink.)
WorldNetDaily said that Pelosi spent more than $100,000 for "food [and] booze." Thats false. The total includes expenses other than "food and booze," though its certainly true that international CODELs routinely show receipts for hundreds of dollars worth of top-shelf alcohol brands like Makers Mark, Courvoisier, Grey Goose and Bombay Sapphire. Pelosi herself does not drink alcohol, her staff told us, but shes not the only member of Congress on these trips. The ones who do drink are well-supplied.

The documents also show receipts for hundreds of dollars in food purchases, often from the bulk store Sams Club or from the Andrews Air Force Base commissary. (Its worth noting that, according to Pelosis staff, food and beverages left over after a trip are stored for future travel.) Snack items usually include cereals, fruit, chips and candy. Most of the CODELs in Judicial Watchs sheaf of documents do not provide itemized receipts for the food used to make in-flight meals, but the one that does (a Pelosi CODEL from February 2009) lists provisions including tilapia, lasagna and fancy cakes.

Judicial Watch calculated that Pelosis CODELs spent precisely $101,429.14 over two years for what it calls in-flight expenses." We asked Judicial Watch for an explanation of its accounting, and the group sent us a spreadsheet that covered three of the nine Pelosi CODELs represented in its documents, plus 47 speaker shuttles to and from Pelosis home district. From the three CODELs it covers, its clear that Judicial Watch is counting as in-flight expenses any non-reimbursable Air Force expenditure besides transportation costs. That category actually includes all non-plane costs of the trip, including baggage fees, meeting room rentals and refreshments, and, frequently, good-will lapel pins as well as meals, ground transportation and lodging in U.S. territory.

Egregious spending.


Bullshit. Where do you see egregious spending in that summary? Because they actually ate food while traveling? Purchased from Sams Club and Air Force commissaries? Your linked article was sensationalist trash. The end. socrazy

$100k over 2 years? Not even counting the millions spent on actual plane costs? For commuting? When we're already paying them a salary?

Feel free to donate your own money to pay for that shit


What the fvck...you don't even know how many people are travelling or for what purpose. socrazy monkey

On the "pay for it themselves" note, do you ever travel for work? Do you pay for it yourself? rolleyes

I'm sure plenty of the spending is wasteful, you just haven't identified a shred of evidence to support the claims....and your article was clickbait trash.


Can't be worse than Cheeto's 1400 Conflict of interest occurrences over the last 2 years totaling over $5 million

https://www.citizensforethics.org/presidential-profiteering-trumps-conflicts-got-worse/

Re: Why are POS congressmen/women travellling abroad at all? [Re: ifallalot] #2900553
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Originally Posted By: ifallalot
This isn't travel for work, this is commuting. I'm well aware of what gets paid for and what doesn't


It's actually a mix of all sorts of travel, not just commuting.

Wouldn't your proposal to make them all pay for themselves just make it even harder for anyone but the uber-rich to hold office?

Again, I'm not opposed to cutting costs, but I'm hardly inclined to pin this one on Nancy as some sort of gotcha.


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Re: Why are POS congressmen/women travellling abroad at all? [Re: sizzld1] #2900554
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Part of that no doubt goes to her five man armed security team that goes with her everywhere. Those big fuckers with guns eat a LOT of food. Not to mention liquor. All your drunk good-guys with guns belong Nancy Pelosi. Walls and guns good as long as Nancy is behind them.

I'm already ducking and have a nice weekend!

Bye.

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Re: Why are POS congressmen/women travellling abroad at all? [Re: ifallalot] #2900557
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Originally Posted By: ifallalot
This isn't travel for work, this is commuting. I'm well aware of what gets paid for and what doesn't

Doesnt quite seem that you do roflmao

Re: Why are POS congressmen/women travellling abroad at all? [Re: ifallalot] #2900559
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Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: sizzld1
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
And since there should never be any unanswered questions on the internets:

https://www.factcheck.org/2010/03/pelosis-party-plane/

As you'd expect, not much to see.

From your link

Claim: Pelosi spent over $100,000 on food and alcohol.
Fact: Her delegations did spend that amount, but not just on food and booze. (And Pelosi doesnt drink.)
WorldNetDaily said that Pelosi spent more than $100,000 for "food [and] booze." Thats false. The total includes expenses other than "food and booze," though its certainly true that international CODELs routinely show receipts for hundreds of dollars worth of top-shelf alcohol brands like Makers Mark, Courvoisier, Grey Goose and Bombay Sapphire. Pelosi herself does not drink alcohol, her staff told us, but shes not the only member of Congress on these trips. The ones who do drink are well-supplied.

The documents also show receipts for hundreds of dollars in food purchases, often from the bulk store Sams Club or from the Andrews Air Force Base commissary. (Its worth noting that, according to Pelosis staff, food and beverages left over after a trip are stored for future travel.) Snack items usually include cereals, fruit, chips and candy. Most of the CODELs in Judicial Watchs sheaf of documents do not provide itemized receipts for the food used to make in-flight meals, but the one that does (a Pelosi CODEL from February 2009) lists provisions including tilapia, lasagna and fancy cakes.

Judicial Watch calculated that Pelosis CODELs spent precisely $101,429.14 over two years for what it calls in-flight expenses." We asked Judicial Watch for an explanation of its accounting, and the group sent us a spreadsheet that covered three of the nine Pelosi CODELs represented in its documents, plus 47 speaker shuttles to and from Pelosis home district. From the three CODELs it covers, its clear that Judicial Watch is counting as in-flight expenses any non-reimbursable Air Force expenditure besides transportation costs. That category actually includes all non-plane costs of the trip, including baggage fees, meeting room rentals and refreshments, and, frequently, good-will lapel pins as well as meals, ground transportation and lodging in U.S. territory.

Egregious spending.


Bullshit. Where do you see egregious spending in that summary? Because they actually ate food while traveling? Purchased from Sams Club and Air Force commissaries? Your linked article was sensationalist trash. The end. socrazy

$100k over 2 years? Not even counting the millions spent on actual plane costs? For commuting? When we're already paying them a salary?

Feel free to donate your own money to pay for that shit


You just lost any and all right to criticize other's sources from now on. roflmao

Re: Why are POS congressmen/women travellling abroad at all? [Re: GWS] #2900562
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Part of that no doubt goes to her five man armed security team that goes with her everywhere. Those big fuckers with guns eat a LOT of food. Not to mention liquor. All your drunk good-guys with guns belong Nancy Pelosi. Walls and guns good as long as Nancy is behind them.

I'm already ducking and have a nice weekend!

Bye.

wave2


She wants to take all zeee gunz!


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Re: Why are POS congressmen/women travellling abroad at all? [Re: ifallalot] #2900563
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Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
And since there should never be any unanswered questions on the internets:

https://www.factcheck.org/2010/03/pelosis-party-plane/

As you'd expect, not much to see.

From your link

Claim: Pelosi spent over $100,000 on food and alcohol.
Fact: Her delegations did spend that amount, but not just on food and booze. (And Pelosi doesnt drink.)
WorldNetDaily said that Pelosi spent more than $100,000 for "food [and] booze." Thats false. The total includes expenses other than "food and booze," though its certainly true that international CODELs routinely show receipts for hundreds of dollars worth of top-shelf alcohol brands like Makers Mark, Courvoisier, Grey Goose and Bombay Sapphire. Pelosi herself does not drink alcohol, her staff told us, but shes not the only member of Congress on these trips. The ones who do drink are well-supplied.

The documents also show receipts for hundreds of dollars in food purchases, often from the bulk store Sams Club or from the Andrews Air Force Base commissary. (Its worth noting that, according to Pelosis staff, food and beverages left over after a trip are stored for future travel immediately consumed by overworked and underpaid junior staff members.) Snack items usually include cereals, fruit, chips and candy. Most of the CODELs in Judicial Watchs sheaf of documents do not provide itemized receipts for the food used to make in-flight meals, but the one that does (a Pelosi CODEL from February 2009) lists provisions including tilapia, lasagna and fancy cakes.

Judicial Watch calculated that Pelosis CODELs spent precisely $101,429.14 over two years for what it calls in-flight expenses." We asked Judicial Watch for an explanation of its accounting, and the group sent us a spreadsheet that covered three of the nine Pelosi CODELs represented in its documents, plus 47 speaker shuttles to and from Pelosis home district. From the three CODELs it covers, its clear that Judicial Watch is counting as in-flight expenses any non-reimbursable Air Force expenditure besides transportation costs. That category actually includes all non-plane costs of the trip, including baggage fees, meeting room rentals and refreshments, and, frequently, good-will lapel pins as well as meals, ground transportation and lodging in U.S. territory.

Egregious spending.


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Re: Why are POS congressmen/women travellling abroad at all? [Re: the janitor] #2900578
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A World Net Daily story from 2010 is ifallalot's big gotcha.

Rapidly approaching GromsDad and Squidley territory.


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Re: Why are POS congressmen/women travellling abroad at all? [Re: craigj532] #2900581
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Originally Posted By: craigj532
A World Net Daily story from 2010 is ifallalot's big gotcha.

Rapidly approaching GromsDad and Squidley territory.


He's on the same diet as squidley. socrazy


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Originally Posted By: craigj532
A World Net Daily story from 2010 is ifallalot's big gotcha.

Rapidly approaching GromsDad and Squidley territory.


He's on the same diet as squidley. socrazy


Low T and anal beads?


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Re: Why are POS congressmen/women travellling abroad at all? [Re: BillyOcean] #2900586
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So the best all the jag offs can do is say everybody does it

Thats why so many people would be fine with blowing the whole thing up

Trump is not perfect but at least he gets it a little bit

He doesnt take a salary

Hes in the White House trying to make a deal not going on stupid field trips with 100 hangers on

Hopefully he will nuke every little perk these representatives take

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Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Originally Posted By: craigj532
A World Net Daily story from 2010 is ifallalot's big gotcha.

Rapidly approaching GromsDad and Squidley territory.


He's on the same diet as squidley. socrazy


Low T and anal beads?


recumbent bikes?



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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
So the best all the jag offs can do is say everybody does it

Thats why so many people would be fine with blowing the whole thing up

Trump is not perfect but at least he gets it a little bit

He doesnt take a salary

Hes in the White House trying to make a deal not going on stupid field trips with 100 hangers on

Hopefully he will nuke every little perk these representatives take


So you want only rich politicians?

Makes sense.

PS, his golfing and Mar-a-Lago bills are about as abusive as it gets.

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Originally Posted By: ifallalot
This isn't travel for work, this is commuting. I'm well aware of what gets paid for and what doesn't


I travel for work occasionally. The company pays for it. That sure as hell isn't a blank check though.


This is a bad day for the news media. Lets not kid ourselves, Toobin said on CNN. The larger message that a lot of people are going to take from this story is that the news media are a bunch of leftist liars who are dying to get the president, and theyre willing to lie to do it.
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