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#2899624 - 01/17/19 01:12 AM "I never said there was no collusion between the campaign" and Russia
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"I never said there was no collusion between the campaign" and Russia.
--- Rudy Giuliani

"If the collusion happened, it happened a long time ago."
--- Rudy Giuliani

https://www.axios.com/giuliani-never-sai...19958cc010.html


Not mine, but a solid summary:

Rudy thinks he's moving the goalposts, but he's just moving the ball down the field while the goalposts stay exactly where they have always been.

Russia didn't interfere in the election.

OK, they interfered, but there were no contacts between Russia and the Trump Campaign.

OK, there were contacts, but Trump didn't have any deals with Russia.

OK, Trump had deals with Russia, but it's not like there were meetings with Russian intelligence agents.

OK, There were meetings with Russian intelligence agents, but Trump didn't know about them.

OK, Trump knew, but nothing came of them, so there was no collusion.

OK, some people in the campaign colluded, but Trump specifically didn't collude. <-- You are here.

OK, Trump colluded, but if he didn't Hillary would have won, so it's good that he did.

Getting close to the end now...


Edited by sizzld1 (01/17/19 01:13 AM)
Edit Reason: They left out "collusion is not a crime"
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#2899625 - 01/17/19 01:15 AM Re: "I never said there was no collusion between the campaign" and Russia [Re: sizzld1]
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#2899629 - 01/17/19 02:18 AM Re: "I never said there was no collusion between the campaign" and Russia [Re: Autoprax]
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Mmmmm.....

Julia Ioffe....

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#2899643 - 01/17/19 05:38 AM Re: "I never said there was no collusion between the campaign" and Russia [Re: sizzld1]
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The Trump-Giuliani clown train wreck is the most amazing thing to watch.

These are the people of power and influence and they make such stupid blunders that are so obvious to anyone but GromsDad.
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#2899646 - 01/17/19 05:43 AM Re: "I never said there was no collusion between the campaign" and Russia [Re: sizzld1]
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Giuliani is ridiculous, and not in an amusing way like Trump

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#2899714 - 01/17/19 11:19 AM Re: "I never said there was no collusion between the campaign" and Russia [Re: BillyOcean]
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Giuliani is ridiculous, and not in an amusing way like Trump


hopefully this will be the final act for both of these clowns
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#2899718 - 01/17/19 11:23 AM Re: "I never said there was no collusion between the campaign" and Russia [Re: FecalFace]
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Originally Posted By: FecalFace
The Trump-Giuliani clown train wreck is the most amazing thing to watch.

These are the people of power and influence and they make such stupid blunders that are so obvious to anyone but GromsDad.


I don't think it's anything more than old people not recognizing they're old.

In no circumstance should Trump be relying on a guy who's not at the absolute top of his game today. I don't care how batshit crazy Trump might be, there's gotta be a conservative lawyer out there at one of the big firms who would take him on.
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#2899726 - 01/17/19 11:28 AM Re: "I never said there was no collusion between the campaign" and Russia [Re: StuAzole]
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Originally Posted By: FecalFace
The Trump-Giuliani clown train wreck is the most amazing thing to watch.

These are the people of power and influence and they make such stupid blunders that are so obvious to anyone but GromsDad.


I don't think it's anything more than old people not recognizing they're old.

In no circumstance should Trump be relying on a guy who's not at the absolute top of his game today. I don't care how batshit crazy Trump might be, there's gotta be a conservative lawyer out there at one of the big firms who would take him on.


They'd probably have to resign themselves to taking the case on pro bono as Trump has a long history of not paying his lawyers. Which is why Trump has to rely on a senile cousin-fooker, who actually does also represent his base pretty well.
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#2899734 - 01/17/19 11:35 AM Re: "I never said there was no collusion between the campaign" and Russia [Re: sizzld1]
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A guy like trump doesn't like superior subordinates.

Plus, quality people would be crazy to work for that nutty gangster.
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#2899836 - 01/17/19 01:37 PM Re: "I never said there was no collusion between the campaign" and Russia [Re: Autoprax]
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Originally Posted By: Autoprax
<iframe width="726" height="408" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/b1HWNcLDK88" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


This is intensely interesting. I love the part when the Russian agents visit her friend's apartment to borrow her rug and leave a shit in the toilet.
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#2899843 - 01/17/19 01:59 PM Re: "I never said there was no collusion between the campaign" and Russia [Re: Gnudz]
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Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
<iframe width="726" height="408" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/b1HWNcLDK88" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


This is intensely interesting. I love the part when the Russian agents visit her friend's apartment to borrow her rug and leave a shit in the toilet.


this^
And: describing Putin as a Austin Powers type evil mastermind.
Russians are messy.
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#2899846 - 01/17/19 02:05 PM Re: "I never said there was no collusion between the campaign" and Russia [Re: Gnudz]
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Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
<iframe width="726" height="408" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/b1HWNcLDK88" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


This is intensely interesting. I love the part when the Russian agents visit her friend's apartment to borrow her rug and leave a shit in the toilet.

Wonder if it was an upper deck confused2 That would be next level facelick
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#2899870 - 01/17/19 02:36 PM Re: "I never said there was no collusion between the campaign" and Russia [Re: heelnipstr]
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Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
<iframe width="726" height="408" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/b1HWNcLDK88" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


This is intensely interesting. I love the part when the Russian agents visit her friend's apartment to borrow her rug and leave a shit in the toilet.


this^
And: describing Putin as a Austin Powers type evil mastermind.
Russians are messy.


Messiness is ok if you want to foment chaos.

I thought that was a good talk.

That chick can sure talk.

I have trouble forming more than 3 coherent sentences. [in a row]

I trip out on smart people.
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#2899880 - 01/17/19 02:40 PM Re: "I never said there was no collusion between the campaign" and Russia [Re: sizzld1]
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I can't wait for Grossdads take on this.

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#2899905 - 01/17/19 03:07 PM Re: "I never said there was no collusion between the campaign" and Russia [Re: Autoprax]
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Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: heelnipstr
Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
<iframe width="726" height="408" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/b1HWNcLDK88" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


This is intensely interesting. I love the part when the Russian agents visit her friend's apartment to borrow her rug and leave a shit in the toilet.


this^
And: describing Putin as a Austin Powers type evil mastermind.
Russians are messy.


Messiness is ok if you want to foment chaos.

I thought that was a good talk.

That chick can sure talk.

I have trouble forming more than 3 coherent sentences. [in a row]

I trip out on smart people.


Now I think it was a little insensitive of you posting this w/o some kind of warning. A strong outspoken woman who isn't afraid to speak her mind might be hurtful to some males who are insecure in their masculinity.

NSFIM

Better safe than sorry my friend.

ps- my take on her russians are messy is that messiness is part of the russian character. seems emotionally based, include Pole's too.


Edited by heelnipstr (01/17/19 03:10 PM)
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