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"I never said there was no collusion between the campaign" and Russia #2899624
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"I never said there was no collusion between the campaign" and Russia.
--- Rudy Giuliani

"If the collusion happened, it happened a long time ago."
--- Rudy Giuliani

https://www.axios.com/giuliani-never-sai...19958cc010.html


Not mine, but a solid summary:

Rudy thinks he's moving the goalposts, but he's just moving the ball down the field while the goalposts stay exactly where they have always been.

Russia didn't interfere in the election.

OK, they interfered, but there were no contacts between Russia and the Trump Campaign.

OK, there were contacts, but Trump didn't have any deals with Russia.

OK, Trump had deals with Russia, but it's not like there were meetings with Russian intelligence agents.

OK, There were meetings with Russian intelligence agents, but Trump didn't know about them.

OK, Trump knew, but nothing came of them, so there was no collusion.

OK, some people in the campaign colluded, but Trump specifically didn't collude. <-- You are here.

OK, Trump colluded, but if he didn't Hillary would have won, so it's good that he did.

Getting close to the end now...

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Re: "I never said there was no collusion between the campaign" and Russia [Re: sizzld1] #2899625
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The Trump-Giuliani clown train wreck is the most amazing thing to watch.

These are the people of power and influence and they make such stupid blunders that are so obvious to anyone but GromsDad.


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Giuliani is ridiculous, and not in an amusing way like Trump

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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Giuliani is ridiculous, and not in an amusing way like Trump


hopefully this will be the final act for both of these clowns


damn. using courier font. that is fooking aggressive man.
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Originally Posted By: FecalFace
The Trump-Giuliani clown train wreck is the most amazing thing to watch.

These are the people of power and influence and they make such stupid blunders that are so obvious to anyone but GromsDad.


I don't think it's anything more than old people not recognizing they're old.

In no circumstance should Trump be relying on a guy who's not at the absolute top of his game today. I don't care how batshit crazy Trump might be, there's gotta be a conservative lawyer out there at one of the big firms who would take him on.


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Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
The Trump-Giuliani clown train wreck is the most amazing thing to watch.

These are the people of power and influence and they make such stupid blunders that are so obvious to anyone but GromsDad.


I don't think it's anything more than old people not recognizing they're old.

In no circumstance should Trump be relying on a guy who's not at the absolute top of his game today. I don't care how batshit crazy Trump might be, there's gotta be a conservative lawyer out there at one of the big firms who would take him on.


They'd probably have to resign themselves to taking the case on pro bono as Trump has a long history of not paying his lawyers. Which is why Trump has to rely on a senile cousin-fooker, who actually does also represent his base pretty well.


Nothing is obscene provided it is done in bad taste.

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A guy like trump doesn't like superior subordinates.

Plus, quality people would be crazy to work for that nutty gangster.


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<iframe width="726" height="408" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/b1HWNcLDK88" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


This is intensely interesting. I love the part when the Russian agents visit her friend's apartment to borrow her rug and leave a shit in the toilet.


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Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
<iframe width="726" height="408" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/b1HWNcLDK88" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


This is intensely interesting. I love the part when the Russian agents visit her friend's apartment to borrow her rug and leave a shit in the toilet.


this^
And: describing Putin as a Austin Powers type evil mastermind.
Russians are messy.


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<iframe width="726" height="408" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/b1HWNcLDK88" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


This is intensely interesting. I love the part when the Russian agents visit her friend's apartment to borrow her rug and leave a shit in the toilet.

Wonder if it was an upper deck confused2 That would be next level facelick


You forgot it was STOLEN?!
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Originally Posted By: heelnipstr
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<iframe width="726" height="408" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/b1HWNcLDK88" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


This is intensely interesting. I love the part when the Russian agents visit her friend's apartment to borrow her rug and leave a shit in the toilet.


this^
And: describing Putin as a Austin Powers type evil mastermind.
Russians are messy.


Messiness is ok if you want to foment chaos.

I thought that was a good talk.

That chick can sure talk.

I have trouble forming more than 3 coherent sentences. [in a row]

I trip out on smart people.


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I can't wait for Grossdads take on this.

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Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: heelnipstr
Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
<iframe width="726" height="408" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/b1HWNcLDK88" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


This is intensely interesting. I love the part when the Russian agents visit her friend's apartment to borrow her rug and leave a shit in the toilet.


this^
And: describing Putin as a Austin Powers type evil mastermind.
Russians are messy.


Messiness is ok if you want to foment chaos.

I thought that was a good talk.

That chick can sure talk.

I have trouble forming more than 3 coherent sentences. [in a row]

I trip out on smart people.


Now I think it was a little insensitive of you posting this w/o some kind of warning. A strong outspoken woman who isn't afraid to speak her mind might be hurtful to some males who are insecure in their masculinity.

NSFIM

Better safe than sorry my friend.

ps- my take on her russians are messy is that messiness is part of the russian character. seems emotionally based, include Pole's too.

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I love it when she stops to rephrase or restate a point...

I sent her a marriage proposal on twitter.


damn. using courier font. that is fooking aggressive man.
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Originally Posted By: afoaf
I love it when she stops to rephrase or restate a point...

I sent her a marriage proposal on twitter.


I always try to flirt with her on twitter.

She's having none of it.

I'd like see what her body looks like.


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"I never said there was no collusion between the campaign"

That's gotta be grammatically incorrect, I get the gist, but that's some retard grammar


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Double negative


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Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Double negative


The grammar is fine. The message on the other hand...


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Originally Posted By: ifallalot
"I never said there was no collusion between the campaign"

That's gotta be grammatically incorrect, I get the gist, but that's some retard grammar


You're just figuring out now that you've been cheerleading for Team RRRREEEEEEEEEtard all this time? foreheadslap

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Originally Posted By: frvcvs
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"I never said there was no collusion between the campaign"

That's gotta be grammatically incorrect, I get the gist, but that's some retard grammar


You're just figuring out now that you've been cheerleading for Team RRRREEEEEEEEEtard all this time? foreheadslap

iFall, you're welcome to come back any time you like. It's okay to admit you were wrong. cheers

Or, you can continue to let your pride dig you a deeper hole.

Have I ever liked Guliani? Hell no


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Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: afoaf
I love it when she stops to rephrase or restate a point...

I sent her a marriage proposal on twitter.


I always try to flirt with her on twitter.

She's having none of it.

I'd like see what her body looks like.


I love the asymmetry of her nose.

Adorable.


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Originally Posted By: ifallalot
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Originally Posted By: ifallalot
"I never said there was no collusion between the campaign"

That's gotta be grammatically incorrect, I get the gist, but that's some retard grammar


You're just figuring out now that you've been cheerleading for Team RRRREEEEEEEEEtard all this time? foreheadslap

iFall, you're welcome to come back any time you like. It's okay to admit you were wrong. cheers

Or, you can continue to let your pride dig you a deeper hole.

Have I ever liked Guliani? Hell no


But you love the man baby that was dumb enough to hire him as is lawyer. foreheadslap


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So really, Rudy's just going out and lowering the Trump bar, isn't he? It's gone from no meeting, to meeting about adoption and now we're worked all the way down to "the only illegal activity possible is Trump working with Russia to steal the DNC emails and there's no evidence of that". Not so surprisingly, his base is willing to follow him down this road of lowered expectations.


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Yes, Rudy is 100% making things worse


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I wonder what other approaches Trump was given but refused?

My gut here would be to stay as quiet at Mueller. I don't get why Rudy and team put themselves in the spotlight every week. Trump must really think he can work his way out of it still.


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Rudy is all about the spotlight, lawyering is not his strength.
No different than Orange Julius, spotlight > governing.
Maybe that's why they are drawn to each other.


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Originally Posted By: heelnipstr
Rudy is all about the spotlight, lawyering is not his strength.
No different than Orange Julius, spotlight > governing.
Maybe that's why they are drawn to each other.


At one time, Rudy was a great lawyer.


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Rudy was always a scumbag, now he is a drunken senile scumbag.

Re: "I never said there was no collusion between the campaign" and Russia [Re: sizzld1] #2900379
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The focus should be on HIllary and Obama. That's where the real criminal activity is at.

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You forgot it was STOLEN?!
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