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#2897660 - 01/13/19 07:09 PM Best shoulder therapy exercises?
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Post em up. Working hard to come back from shoulder and hip problems. Got the hip pretty much resolved but the shoulder is still nagging a little. Been working hard in the weight room 4-5 days a week for two months, dropped a few pounds and gotten much much stronger. Still feeling shoulder impingement going on.....now I think because of my work in the weight room pulling my shoulders forward. Think I just need to balance things out a bit. Looking for what works.
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#2897663 - 01/13/19 07:14 PM Re: Best shoulder therapy exercises? [Re: GromsDad]
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Swim, had some shoulder problems, nothing helped more.

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#2897752 - 01/14/19 04:26 AM Re: Best shoulder therapy exercises? [Re: GromsDad]
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a physio said that usual dumbbell, barbell shoulder gym stuff is good coz it builds up the muscle and ligaments in the shoulders which helps protect. This sounds like what you are doing so is good.


The heavy duty stuff neglects the smaller rotator cuff muscles. The whole point of rotator cuff training is very light with high reps - almost doesn't feel like proper exercising. I like the elastic tubing ones best however I like the way this man explains how to isolate the rotator cuff muscles and avoid the bigger muscles such as delts taking over the exercise. Unlike the heavy stuff, rotator cuff can be exercised every day.

https://youtu.be/mvjQMoL246o



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#2897768 - 01/14/19 08:37 AM Re: Best shoulder therapy exercises? [Re: GromsDad]
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The last place someone with shoulder problems should probably be is doing typical upper body exercises in the gym.
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#2898163 - 01/14/19 04:48 PM Re: Best shoulder therapy exercises? [Re: casa_mugrienta]
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Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
The last place someone with shoulder problems should probably be is doing typical upper body exercises in the gym.


Been being careful. Lot of work on strengthening things.

My routine has been:

Day 1: 20 minutes of cardio on a bike or climber followed by an hour on the machines working legs
Day 2: 20 minutes of cardio on a bike or climber followed by an hour on the machines working upper body
Day 3: Swim laps with a mix of distance and sprints
Repeat.

Not using free weights other than dumb bells. Keeping resistance low on the machines and doing a lot of reps. In two months I've lost 8 pounds overall and probably replaced another 8 pounds of body fat with muscle. Look better and feel better overall.

When I do upper body I to a lot of Lats, Chest, Shoulder and Tris. I do very little Biceps. Really focusing on the stuff needed for surfing.

Wake up in the morning though and the shoulder feels like shit from sleeping on it. Also last week surfed wearing a 5mm suit and the shoulder was feeling pretty shitty after 2 hours. I was pretty bummed with how I felt surfing because I thought I was a lot farther along than that from the work in the gym. Pain is all towards the top of the recovery stroke.....that last foot when you reach forward.......not in the pull stroke.
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#2898177 - 01/14/19 05:13 PM Re: Best shoulder therapy exercises? [Re: GromsDad]
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You have been surfing for what, 40 something years?

If it were me I would stop doing the upper body stuff until I did what works.

Here is what works:

See an orthopedic doctor.

You very well might be in the infancy of a tear.

If that's the case you don't want progression.

Perhaps he will prescribe PT to remedy your issue.

The recovery from shoulder surgery is long and shitty. You don't want it to get to that level.

^^^^^^^^^^That's what I tell people experiencing impingement issues. The ones who have not taken my advice or did not do PT ended up with surgery. YMMV.
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#2898200 - 01/14/19 06:02 PM Re: Best shoulder therapy exercises? [Re: GromsDad]
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A few random suggestions (Im not a doctor)

Light resistance band work (15 lbs)

Farmers walks (some people believe the vibrations radiate up your arms into shoulder as you walk with weight and over time strengthen shoulder in unique way)

Train with thick barbell or fat grips (thick bar is thought to reduce stress on joints in pressing exercises and strengthen grip, which some believe translates to better overall upper body condition)

Do dead hangs from pull up bar for as long as possible

Pushups/ dips on gymnastics rings

Yoga

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#2898205 - 01/14/19 06:09 PM Re: Best shoulder therapy exercises? [Re: GromsDad]
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Surfing 36 years. The original injury was July a year and a half ago. Golf related. I ignored it and it got worse. Played golf and surfed through pain for 6-months until in December a year ago when it peaked at a point so bad I couldn't push up off the deck to pop up and it was preventing me from sleeping. I was an advil eating machine. In late December a year ago I found some stretching exercises that worked wonders and got me on a long slow road to healing. I realized that the reason my issue began is because I spend 8-10 hours a day sitting at a computer or driving and my shoulders had significantly rounded forwards. Stretching to improve posture and rest over the course of the next 8 months got me back to about 85-90% pain free. Very little shortboarding and very little golf but I became a madman with a camera last year. The lack of activity due to injuries led to just plain getting soft and putting on an extra 10 pounds. Now the mission is to get back to where I was surfing wise before the original injury and then some. Will be turning 50 next summer and I plan on surfing my ass off.
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#2898206 - 01/14/19 06:11 PM Re: Best shoulder therapy exercises? [Re: BillyOcean]
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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
A few random suggestions (Im not a doctor)

Light resistance band work (15 lbs)

Farmers walks (some people believe the vibrations radiate up your arms into shoulder as you walk with weight and over time strengthen shoulder in unique way)

Train with thick barbell or fat grips (thick bar is thought to reduce stress on joints in pressing exercises and strengthen grip, which some believe translates to better overall upper body condition)

Do dead hangs from pull up bar for as long as possible

Pushups/ dips on gymnastics rings

Yoga


Dead Hangs was one of the stretches that got me on the road back. I've been doing a ton of that for the past year.
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#2898223 - 01/14/19 06:34 PM Re: Best shoulder therapy exercises? [Re: GromsDad]
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Dead hangs are great

Try overhead carries (walking with weight overhead- both arms and single arm)

Start with light weight

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#2898548 - 01/15/19 11:20 AM Re: Best shoulder therapy exercises? [Re: GromsDad]
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I am not a doctor or PT but would advise against self treatment, especially some of the exercises listed above, until I got a diagnosis from a physician.

That is, if you're having symptoms of shoulder impingement.
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#2898653 - 01/15/19 01:04 PM Re: Best shoulder therapy exercises? [Re: GromsDad]
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Yeah, I really have no idea what Im talking about

Those are just exercises I like to do

I had a mildly nagging shoulder for a few months in 2017 and now its a non issue, but maybe Im just lucky

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#2899573 - 01/16/19 09:55 PM Re: Best shoulder therapy exercises? [Re: GromsDad]
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I have to agree with Casa. See a professional.

I'm 57, been surfing for 45 years and this last year my left shoulder has gone to hell. It got to where I had difficulty putting on a shirt or jacket. I had to remember to put my left arm through the sleeve first. It hurt to reach back for the seatbelt.

I've been going to a PT for months. M soulder's gotten a little better. I have my range of motion back. But I still get real sore. Today the surf was great but I was in pain pretty much the whole time- Surfing is now what I call the Agony and the Ecstasy.

The PT had me do things that were counter intuitive- stretching where I had the most pain and exercises that seemed too easy. I was getting tingling in my arm and he was able to figure out it had nothing to do with my arm but was a neck problem caused by the "hair flick."

The way he was manipulating the shoulder, figuring out pain and pressure points, testing range of motion and prescribing exercises was not something a layman could ever figure out on m own.

See a PT.

ps because I'm still having pain, the next step is an MRI. Insurance would not cover an MRI until I had gone through a PT regime.


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#2899586 - 01/16/19 10:26 PM Re: Best shoulder therapy exercises? [Re: patrolman]
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Originally Posted By: patrolman

The way he was manipulating the shoulder, figuring out pain and pressure points, testing range of motion and prescribing exercises was not something a layman could ever figure out on m own.


The knowledge a good PT can possess is pretty amazing.
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If they are causing the problem, realeasing them will help
I tried to talk my PT into doing it." -Autoprax

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#2899970 - 01/17/19 04:27 PM Re: Best shoulder therapy exercises? [Re: GromsDad]
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Someone else posted this somewhere. A few of the exercises my PT gave me are on here.

https://www.orthoinfo.org/globalassets/pdfs/2017-rehab_shoulder.pdf

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