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#2896769 - 01/11/19 10:27 AM Trump is not in a good bargaining position
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The Dems should say, “you want this wall funded, sure, we want this, this, and this.” If Trump says yes, he ends up endorsing a progressive agenda. If he says no deal, it makes him look like he doesn’t really care about “border security.”

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#2896772 - 01/11/19 10:39 AM Re: Trump is not in a good bargaining position [Re: 1whoknows]
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Originally Posted By: 1whoknows
The Dems should say, “you want this wall funded, sure, we want this, this, and this.” If Trump says yes, he ends up endorsing a progressive agenda. If he says no deal, it makes him look like he doesn’t really care about “border security.”


The Republicans (Lindsey Graham) just tried to do that and Trump wasn't having it, so now Graham is telling him to make the emergency declaration.

I think that's an awesome idea on so many levels. It will be a useful precedent when McConnell is blocking the next (D) President, and what's the worst thing that could happen? $6B of $800B doesn't get spent on what the DoD wants it spent on, and instead it will actually defend the country? Tom Cotton might have a sad?

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#2896916 - 01/11/19 05:22 PM Re: Trump is not in a good bargaining position [Re: 1whoknows]
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One of the Trump orgs VP's says he is a horrible dealmaker and never took responsibility for his mistakes, How could so many people fall for his bullshit?

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#2896932 - 01/11/19 06:20 PM Re: Trump is not in a good bargaining position [Re: 1whoknows]
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I think he's in a fine position. Leave the government shut down until democrats cave. No compromise on national security.
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#2896936 - 01/11/19 06:24 PM Re: Trump is not in a good bargaining position [Re: GromsDad]
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Why would Dems cave?

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#2896939 - 01/11/19 06:26 PM Re: Trump is not in a good bargaining position [Re: 1whoknows]
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Trump is not good at bargaining. He'll give anyone who speaks nicely of him whatever they want. Pelosi should go tell him she loves his hair almost as much as his intellect and then ask for universal healthcare.
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#2896940 - 01/11/19 06:26 PM Re: Trump is not in a good bargaining position [Re: GromsDad]
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Interesting how we’re suddenly in a ‘crisis’.
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#2896943 - 01/11/19 06:27 PM Re: Trump is not in a good bargaining position [Re: 1whoknows]
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Originally Posted By: 1whoknows
Why would Dems cave?


I'd bet Cheeto will cave next week. What else does he have left in his bag of stunts.

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#2896959 - 01/11/19 06:52 PM Re: Trump is not in a good bargaining position [Re: 1whoknows]
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Originally Posted By: 1whoknows
Why would Dems cave?


Pressure from unions perhaps? Will of the American people perhaps?
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#2896960 - 01/11/19 06:53 PM Re: Trump is not in a good bargaining position [Re: 1whoknows]
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The American people do not want the wall, just like they didn't elect Trump.

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#2896962 - 01/11/19 06:59 PM Re: Trump is not in a good bargaining position [Re: mundus]
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The American people do not want the wall, just like they didn't elect Trump.


74% of the country disagrees with Cheeto

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/Government-Shutdown

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#2896963 - 01/11/19 07:02 PM Re: Trump is not in a good bargaining position [Re: stu dog]
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Fake news because it disagrees with trump
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#2896998 - 01/11/19 08:15 PM Re: Trump is not in a good bargaining position [Re: GromsDad]
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Originally Posted By: 1whoknows
Why would Dems cave?


Pressure from unions perhaps? Will of the American people perhaps?


Pressure from unions? I thought Trump was the blue collar hero and Dems just the elite?
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#2897021 - 01/11/19 08:36 PM Re: Trump is not in a good bargaining position [Re: StuAzole]
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It’s all just so sad, isn’t it?

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#2897025 - 01/11/19 08:46 PM Re: Trump is not in a good bargaining position [Re: 1whoknows]
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The horde of illegal alien felons that constitutes this "crisis" only exists in the heads of Cheeto and his hard-core supporters.

Compared to most of America's real problems like Chinese expansion, Korea's nukes, extreme partisanship, runaway health care costs, student debt, pollution, infrastructure, etc., illegal aliens as a national security problem are way down in the weeds.

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