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See how powerful they are! See how much disdain they have for all the government sheep and leeches! It’s all obvious now.


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Yeah, basically

What is the Dems’ negotiating leverage at this point?

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At least he can finally say he has the longest something!


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Re: “Longest Government Shutdown in US History” will be bragging rights for trump and is followers [Re: BillyOcean] #2896419
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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Yeah, basically

What is the Dems’ negotiating leverage at this point?


66% of Americans blame Trump.

That's all the leverage they need.


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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Yeah, basically

What is the Dems’ negotiating leverage at this point?


Is NOT BEING A TOTAL ASSHOLE negotiating leverage?


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Re: “Longest Government Shutdown in US History” will be bragging rights for trump and is followers [Re: 1whoknows] #2896459
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Yeah, basically

What is the Dems’ negotiating leverage at this point?


Is NOT BEING A TOTAL ASSHOLE negotiating leverage?


Look at who you’re talking about

Trump is pretty comfortable with the total asshole thing

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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Yeah, basically

What is the Dems’ negotiating leverage at this point?


They've got the House, public opinion, and they're closer to 60 senate votes than the Republicans are.

I'm sure Cuck and Nancy would be just thoughts-and-prayers saddened if this dragged on long enough to provide cover for Mueller to finish what even Giuliani admits will be a "horrific" report. All those Creationist judges, not getting confirmed.

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Re: “Longest Government Shutdown in US History” will be bragging rights for trump and is followers [Re: 1whoknows] #2896469
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Originally Posted By: 1whoknows
Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Yeah, basically

What is the Dems’ negotiating leverage at this point?


Is NOT BEING A TOTAL ASSHOLE negotiating leverage?

Would being a TOTAL ASSHOLE matter so much to you if he was fulfilling the Progressive wishlist?


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Yeah, basically

What is the Dems’ negotiating leverage at this point?


Is NOT BEING A TOTAL ASSHOLE negotiating leverage?

Would being a TOTAL ASSHOLE matter so much to you if he was fulfilling the Progressive wishlist?
No, trump being a TOTAL ASSHOLE would not matter as much.

If he was furthering healthcare reform and immigration reform and championing the rights of the disenfranchised I would overlook his narcissistic boorishness.


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If he wanted a wall so badly, why did he wait until after them dems took the house?


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Trump is ruining this great country, and his deplorable cult followers are to blame.

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Originally Posted By: Norm'
If he wanted a wall so badly, why did he wait until after them dems took the house?


Good question

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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
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If he wanted a wall so badly, why did he wait until after them dems took the house?


Good question

because it's all political theater and posturing for his base? because it really is a vanity project? because Mueller is coming? because he really does have the attention span of a 10 y/o and this is the shiny colored ball that is rolling through the room at this particular moment?

there are no good answers.


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The government is shut down? When did this happen?

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The government is shut down? When did this happen?


Yeah, seems fine to me

Keep it shut and throw another 25% tax cut on the bar b

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Trump's hard core followers are so angry at the government, the media, and other "elites" that run the country that there is no limit to the damage they will do in order to stick it to those guys. A shooting war, a repeat of the Great Recession, or imposition of martial law would be acceptable to many of them, as long as they achieve their goal of total destruction of liberalism, the establishment, and the elites.


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Originally Posted By: hammies
Trump's hard core followers are so angry at the government, the media, and other "elites" that run the country that there is no limit to the damage they will do in order to stick it to those guys. A shooting war, a repeat of the Great Recession, or imposition of martial law would be acceptable to many of them, as long as they achieve their goal of total destruction of liberalism, the establishment, and the elites.


Their decisions are not data driven. They’re essentially anti-reason

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Originally Posted By: Norm'
If he wanted a wall so badly, why did he wait until after them dems took the house?


Because he knew it wouldn't happen and there was no way to fulfill his promise of Mexico paying for it. Now he can blame Dems for his failure and his base will eat it up. Maybe he saw the writing on the Wall he'll never build. shrug

With respect to the shutdown, all the libertarians who wanted to see Prez Rafael Cruz are seeing many of their wet-dreams come true, so yeah this is a positive for his base.

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If he wanted a wall so badly, why did he wait until after them dems took the house?


he didn't. he got carried up in it cause he's illiterate and can't read any foreign policy memos his advisers would give him and more importantly it was something he thrived off the reaction at campaign rallies.

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Trump is ruining this great country, and his deplorable cult followers are to blame.


Actually its people like you who simply can't get over the results of the last presidential election that are ruining this country.


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Nope just the Criminal in office and his moronic delusional followers.

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You're so blinded by hate.


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Just the truth, and sooner or later you will have to admit it, unless truly brainwashed or too cowardly to admit you were wrong.

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Want to see real blind hatred? As a trump groupie like gromsdad what he thinks of Hillary Clinton, Obama or the infant of two Democrat parents.

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That Trump and family are criminals.

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Thought crimes


... that resulted in concrete action. So, not thought crimes.

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