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#2896453 - 01/10/19 02:04 PM Re: Fixing Government Services [Re: Sharkbiscuit]
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Originally Posted By: Sharkbiscuit
Originally Posted By: GWS
Originally Posted By: Sharkbiscuit


Californian government workers get priced out of neighborhood in California by people who picked more lucrative career track:

WAAAAAH. WAAAAAH. SUMBUDDY CALL WAMBALAMPS.

SAKWAMENTO TAKSEZ ME

CALL WAMBALAMPS!!11111!!!!!!!




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cheers

110% on point and relevant, and part of the government expense cycle no doubt. Been happening for ages in New York as well. You need your vest and shotgun to get from your squalor cell to squad car in Staten Island or the Bronx, and technically live in the city, or if you have a kid and want that child to not grow up with Mike Tyson or 50 Cent or the Wu Tang Clan, are providing special services to someone in one of the boroughs for a mailing address and living out in Rockland County or someplace halfway between Buffalo and Montreal.

Do you want to pay less in taxes, or take a property value hit by having affordable housing for public sector employees?

Unless you live in Bayleiwa Headolua or Spring-a-Lago New Jersey, both of which break just like Boxdoor, and the mailman is making seven figures.


No mailman is making seven figures. Why spout that shvt?

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#2896457 - 01/10/19 02:09 PM Re: Fixing Government Services [Re: trevorbc]
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Originally Posted By: trevorbc
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Unless you live in Bayleiwa Headolua or Spring-a-Lago New Jersey, both of which break just like Boxdoor, and the mailman is making seven figures.


No mailman is making seven figures. Why spout that shvt?


Karl Malone made seven figures, so all mailmen make seven figures.

Also a cobblestone point in Orange County is comparable to a Hawaiian reefbreak with north exposure, and totally not a thin lipped fairy wave moving at like half the speed.

Plus Sea Girt is just as easy to surf, especially backside, as The Box.

Take deep breathes, and improve your stock game.


Edited by Sharkbiscuit (01/10/19 02:10 PM)

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#2896458 - 01/10/19 02:10 PM Re: Fixing Government Services [Re: afoaf]
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If Im hiring someone to take care of my kids, Im generally not looking to chisel them on pay

By contrast, it i was hiring someone to administer the line at the DMV, Im not sure why I should be paying that person more than the person who administers the line at the car wash

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#2896463 - 01/10/19 02:23 PM Re: Fixing Government Services [Re: BillyOcean]
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Sure. I think that is why there are pay scales in government. Someone like that would definitely be at the bottom. Their pay is probably pretty low. The fact that they then get decent healthcare and maybe a small pension (if they do it for 30 years) I don't think is evidence of a problem with government. What are our priorities as a society? If someone doesn't have the brains to be an engineer we don't think they should have their basic needs taken care of? The guy managing the line at the DMV in theory is showing up on time and doing his job well. Imagine a DMV without order? That is what some 3rd world countries are like, a free for all, and it is hell. Hell, orderly lines are the best thing about the 1st world.

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#2896468 - 01/10/19 02:32 PM Re: Fixing Government Services [Re: afoaf]
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The money is coming from somewhere

Overpaying the DMV guy means there is less money available for other stuff

When govt claims they cant afford to do certain things, part of it is because they dont tax some people enough, but part of it is because they waste the money they have

Then theres the part about the DMV guy usually having some connection to a politician

I guess thats the way the world works so if DMV guy cultivated that connection and it pays off, whatever

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#2896471 - 01/10/19 02:37 PM Re: Fixing Government Services [Re: trevorbc]
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Originally Posted By: trevorbc
Sure. I think that is why there are pay scales in government. Someone like that would definitely be at the bottom. Their pay is probably pretty low. The fact that they then get decent healthcare and maybe a small pension (if they do it for 30 years) I don't think is evidence of a problem with government. What are our priorities as a society? If someone doesn't have the brains to be an engineer we don't think they should have their basic needs taken care of? The guy managing the line at the DMV in theory is showing up on time and doing his job well. Imagine a DMV without order? That is what some 3rd world countries are like, a free for all, and it is hell. Hell, orderly lines are the best thing about the 1st world.


Ive learned through my extensive experience in a third world country that you can

Pay to go to the front of the line.

Pay someone to wait in line for you.

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#2896473 - 01/10/19 02:40 PM Re: Fixing Government Services [Re: ElOgro]
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Originally Posted By: ElOgro
Originally Posted By: trevorbc
Sure. I think that is why there are pay scales in government. Someone like that would definitely be at the bottom. Their pay is probably pretty low. The fact that they then get decent healthcare and maybe a small pension (if they do it for 30 years) I don't think is evidence of a problem with government. What are our priorities as a society? If someone doesn't have the brains to be an engineer we don't think they should have their basic needs taken care of? The guy managing the line at the DMV in theory is showing up on time and doing his job well. Imagine a DMV without order? That is what some 3rd world countries are like, a free for all, and it is hell. Hell, orderly lines are the best thing about the 1st world.


Ive learned through my extensive experience in a third world country that you can

Pay to go to the front of the line.

Pay someone to wait in line for you.

smokin


Exactly cheers

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#2896474 - 01/10/19 02:41 PM Re: Fixing Government Services [Re: heelnipstr]
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Originally Posted By: heelnipstr
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Meanwhile a starting salary for a fireman in my town is over $80,000 plus incredible benefits. They work 24 on 48 off. School teachers have the same starting pay. Perhaps the only municipal workers in my town at the lower end of things would be entry level clerks and public works employees. I'm not complaining but cry me a freaking river.


Liar.
Starting teachers in NJ earn $50k a year.

https://www.sokanu.com/careers/elementary-school-teacher/salary/new-jersey/#by-seniority


He also lied about firemen. In NJ, their avg starting salary is less then $50k.
https://careertrend.com/what-is-the-starting-salary-for-a-firefighter-in-new-jersey-12592100.html

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#2896475 - 01/10/19 02:43 PM Re: Fixing Government Services [Re: BillyOcean]
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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
The money is coming from somewhere

Overpaying the DMV guy means there is less money available for other stuff

When govt claims they cant afford to do certain things, part of it is because they dont tax some people enough, but part of it is because they waste the money they have

Then theres the part about the DMV guy usually having some connection to a politician

I guess thats the way the world works so if DMV guy cultivated that connection and it pays off, whatever


First I don't think the DMV guy is over paid. Does he have a second home? A yacht? In this day and age could he even afford to buy a home or have a family?

So you really believe that the guy that manages the line at the DMV cultivated a relationship with a politician to get that job? I don't even know what to say man.

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#2896488 - 01/10/19 03:26 PM Re: Fixing Government Services [Re: ElOgro]
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Originally Posted By: ElOgro
Ive learned through my extensive experience in a third world country that you can

Pay to go to the front of the line.

Pay someone to wait in line for you.

smokin


Any pointers on not getting skipped once you're in the front of the line?

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#2896489 - 01/10/19 03:27 PM Re: Fixing Government Services [Re: afoaf]
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Look people the trash man in Belmar makes more than Bezos and L Jetty breaks just like Kirra de la Cruz.
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#2896491 - 01/10/19 03:32 PM Re: Fixing Government Services [Re: trevorbc]
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Originally Posted By: trevorbc
Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
The money is coming from somewhere

Overpaying the DMV guy means there is less money available for other stuff

When govt claims they cant afford to do certain things, part of it is because they dont tax some people enough, but part of it is because they waste the money they have

Then theres the part about the DMV guy usually having some connection to a politician

I guess thats the way the world works so if DMV guy cultivated that connection and it pays off, whatever


First I don't think the DMV guy is over paid. Does he have a second home? A yacht? In this day and age could he even afford to buy a home or have a family?

So you really believe that the guy that manages the line at the DMV cultivated a relationship with a politician to get that job? I don't even know what to say man.


Yeah, I do believe that

Not for DMV specifically, but Ive seen it happen with people I know in local politics

Like I said, theyre just playing the game, so whatever, but those are somebodys taxes that could be spent on other things besides hooking up a buddy

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#2896494 - 01/10/19 03:41 PM Re: Fixing Government Services [Re: afoaf]
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I went to the DMV a few weeks ago. In and out in no time at all. Seemed pretty dialed in to me.
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#2896529 - 01/10/19 04:49 PM Re: Fixing Government Services [Re: StuAzole]
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Originally Posted By: StuAzole
I went to the DMV a few weeks ago. In and out in no time at all. Seemed pretty dialed in to me.


There's a brand new fancy one that just opened in Esco.
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#2896533 - 01/10/19 04:53 PM Re: Fixing Government Services [Re: afoaf]
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What I don't get tho is all the whining and jealousy about government employees getting better bennies than the private sector, instead of whining at the private sector for underpaying and not providing better benefits.
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