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Re: Bold prediction: The oval office speech will not change any minds..... [Re: hal9000] #2895868
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Using Chuck and Nancy for a joint rebuttal was a huge unforced error on the part of the democrats. Hopefully we can all agree on that from a tactical standpoint.


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Re: Bold prediction: The oval office speech will not change any minds..... [Re: GromsDad] #2895876
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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Using Chuck and Nancy for a joint rebuttal was a huge unforced error on the part of the democrats. Hopefully we can all agree on that from a tactical standpoint.


The whole time I watched those two I thought i cant wait for the South Park episode of them.

Re: Bold prediction: The oval office speech will not change any minds..... [Re: hal9000] #2895881
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The best and brightest minds in the democrat party decided it was a good idea to have these two corpses take to the airwaves to give a canned rebuttal to the president's address. Stop and consider that.

I'm no paid political strategist but even I could have told them that was going to be a mistake. Use pretty much anyone else in the democrat party for your rebuttal. Put one of them up there solo even. The optics of those two up there looking like that while making partisan attacks against the president. Wow. Just wow.

Brings to mind this epic unforced error.





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Re: Bold prediction: The oval office speech will not change any minds..... [Re: GromsDad] #2895882
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Re: Bold prediction: The oval office speech will not change any minds..... [Re: hal9000] #2895975
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Both "speeches" were terrible. Dems would have better off getting on camera and saying "yep, you heard that correctly, that's all he has" and dropping the mic.


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Re: Bold prediction: The oval office speech will not change any minds..... [Re: hal9000] #2896013
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Another manufactured "crisis"


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Re: Bold prediction: The oval office speech will not change any minds..... [Re: StuAzole] #2896015
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Low energy, lots of sniffing. Im convinced.




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Re: Bold prediction: The oval office speech will not change any minds..... [Re: hal9000] #2896020
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He didn't offer any new arguments or evidence , didn't try to engage or persuade democrats, didn't declare an emergency, didn't lay out any policy objectives. So, what was the point of that speech?


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Re: Bold prediction: The oval office speech will not change any minds..... [Re: hal9000] #2896026
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Re: Bold prediction: The oval office speech will not change any minds..... [Re: hal9000] #2896033
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Originally Posted By: hal9000
He didn't offer any new arguments or evidence , didn't try to engage or persuade democrats, didn't declare an emergency, didn't lay out any policy objectives. So, what was the point of that speech?


Amateurs playing government. We're so fucked long term due to Team Cheeto

Re: Bold prediction: The oval office speech will not change any minds..... [Re: hal9000] #2896038
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No new unforced errors. No new opportunities for feigned outrage from his opposition. But also no walk-backs that would have pissed off his base.

If he couldn't just skip the speech altogether this might have been the next best thing.



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Re: Bold prediction: The oval office speech will not change any minds..... [Re: GDaddy] #2896043
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Originally Posted By: GDaddy
No new unforced errors. No new opportunities for feigned outrage from his opposition. But also no walk-backs that would have pissed off his base.

If he couldn't just skip the speech altogether this might have been the next best thing.



It's a low bar when "no new unforced errors" is deemed a successful outing for the President.


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Re: Bold prediction: The oval office speech will not change any minds..... [Re: StuAzole] #2896050
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shrug Trump obviously wants to operate on terms that are more favorable to him and to limit his opposition's opportunities to directly contradict him in real time.


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Re: Bold prediction: The oval office speech will not change any minds..... [Re: 1whoknows] #2896137
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"I have met with dozens of families whose loved ones were stolen by illegal immigrants. I have held the hands of the mothers and embraced the grief stricken fathers," he said. "I will never forget the pain in their eyes, the tremble in their voices, and the sadness gripping their souls. How much more American blood must we shed before congress does it's job?"

Immoral demagogue


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