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Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: ifallalot] #2895562
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Feelz.

What's the best financial decision today?

Is it more or less expensive to leave things as they are today? That's all that matters.

Delusional

This specific policy is patently more expensive for the majority of people. Not even arguable.


Analysis where? And I mean overall - not for some people. How much does the State currently spend to care for the health of illegals? How much would the state spend under this new plan?


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Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: FecalFace] #2895566
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Feelz.

What's the best financial decision today?

Is it more or less expensive to leave things as they are today? That's all that matters.

Delusional

This specific policy is patently more expensive for the majority of people. Not even arguable.


How much more expensive? I bet its not even a whole dollar per capita.

Which is less than what were paying now to support the uninsured.

A single cent more is too much.

And it won't do anything to alleviate the spending on the uninsured


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Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: ifallalot] #2895574
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Figures you wouldnt give 1 to help someone.

EXTORSHN

Your nanny employer is paying way more than 1 right now to help the sickly people like Squidley who cant afford to pay for the treatment themselves.



You know A. K. A. for-profit insurance. poke


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Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: FecalFace] #2895577
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I would if it were voluntary

I would if there wasn't already such a large percentage of what I make being "given" for "help already.


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Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: FecalFace] #2895578
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Figures you wouldnt give 1 to help someone.

EXTORSHN

Your nanny employer is paying way more than 1 right now to help the sickly people like Squidley who cant afford to pay for the treatment themselves.



You know A. K. A. Insurance. poke

Oh I'm employed by an insurance company?

Once again, you need to realize we're not arguing socialized medicine in general on this thread, rather a specific policy

And you still haven't answered why you think its ok to fine people who already can't afford insurance for not having insurance


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Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: ifallalot] #2895580
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Originally Posted By: ifallalot
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Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: StuAzole


Feelz.

What's the best financial decision today?

Is it more or less expensive to leave things as they are today? That's all that matters.

Delusional

This specific policy is patently more expensive for the majority of people. Not even arguable.


How much more expensive? I bet its not even a whole dollar per capita.

Which is less than what were paying now to support the uninsured.

A single cent more is too much.

And it won't do anything to alleviate the spending on the uninsured


And you think you understand how the government works? You're paying either way, so wouldn't you like to know which situation costs you more?


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Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: ifallalot] #2895581
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I never said youre employed by an insurance company dummy, I said your nanny employer pays for your insurance so being a low empath patriot you dont give a shit what happens to the rest of the country.

The whole idea of single payer is that all people CAN afford to pay for it.
You pay according to your income.
The only reason you wouldnt pay is because you dont want to.

In which case you should be fined.

Just like if you skip your insurance payment except they would kick you off the plan while in Single Payer everybody is covered regardless.

The Single Payer low cost depends on a large risk pool. More people contribute - the cheaper it gets.

Basics, look it up.



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Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: Wheelhouse] #2895584
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Yep, all the coservatards just go to the Emergency room, true freeloaders.

Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: Wheelhouse] #2895592
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ER vs regular doctor visits?
An interesting point of view,
from thee new Governor of New York City:
Bill De Blasio Announces Health Plan For All New Yorkers

NYC Care?
Great idea!
jam_on


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Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: FecalFace] #2895599
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I never said youre employed by an insurance company dummy, I said your nanny employer pays for your insurance so being a low empath patriot you dont give a shit what happens to the rest of the country.

The whole idea of single payer is that all people CAN afford to pay for it.
You pay according to your income.
The only reason you wouldnt pay is because you dont want to.

In which case you should be fined.

Just like if you skip your insurance payment except they would kick you off the plan while in Single Payer everybody is covered regardless.

The Single Payer low cost depends on a large risk pool. More people contribute - the cheaper it gets.

Basics, look it up.


So you're still not coming even close to arguing the facts of this specific matter, instead your'e debating the high level theories about single payer


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Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: Wheelhouse] #2895627
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Per the vid above,
what, $100 million extra, with~out raising taxes further?
And it will guarantee that some 600,000 extra New York City dwellin' folks
can have access to a doctor for preventive or even ER care?
F**k ya!

Tell Thee U.S. Navy that as we are not fightin' China yet in the far western Pacific,
please cancel your order for just 1 of those F~35c's that you bought for $121.2 million(*) every year, ok?


We are now,
instead, going to insure that everyone in New York City
will have access to a doctor, at any~time, no matter how rich or poor you are!!!

Bet~cha that NYC's future health care cost will get even cheaper, just like the cost of those F~35c's.

Ya'all know me, I have an active mind. So I'll ask this, ok?
If we have a Healthy Population, it will ALL become CHEAPER, Cheaper, cheaper
to care for thee local populous, right? Right?

Like how a dude who surfs might drive across thee border of So. Cal. and into Baja California
to ride some waves and then finds out, for some odd reason, that it costs waaay less for the same friggin' medicine, from the same pharm~ie company, to purchase down there in Baja than it does so to buy here in California! WTF?!?

Or will the Doc's start chargin' more,
'cause they can't rip ya/your insurance company off as much,
err, ah, so they will not be makin' as much $$$ to support the wife~y,
(nor pay that monthly alimony) or livin' thee life~style they crave?

Hahaha, tryin' to figure all this out is funny,
but seriously, it is not so, if you are 1 of those 600,00
that New York City Mayor De Blasio is now trying to help...
smile


(*) ~ America's most expensive weapons system just got a little cheaper
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/28/f-35-fig...le-cheaper.html

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Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: ifallalot] #2895635
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Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
I never said youre employed by an insurance company dummy, I said your nanny employer pays for your insurance so being a low empath patriot you dont give a shit what happens to the rest of the country.

The whole idea of single payer is that all people CAN afford to pay for it.
You pay according to your income.
The only reason you wouldnt pay is because you dont want to.

In which case you should be fined.

Just like if you skip your insurance payment except they would kick you off the plan while in Single Payer everybody is covered regardless.

The Single Payer low cost depends on a large risk pool. More people contribute - the cheaper it gets.

Basics, look it up.


So you're still not coming even close to arguing the facts of this specific matter, instead your'e debating the high level theories about single payer


Its not a theory dummy, its how it works.

You are being provided a service, just like taxes or car insurance, if you dont pay for the service you get fined.

EVERYBODY can afford to pay. If you dont want to pay you get fined because youre a mooch.

If you dont want to be a part of the Western Kultur, move to Alafuckinbama.


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Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: FecalFace] #2895636
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Or, just decline to comply and suffer the consequences.


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Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Or, just decline to obey.


You have a choice to move.

Why live in the most progressive state in the union when you fvcking hate it.

Assimilate or GTFO.

PEOPLE HAVE VOTED. poke


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Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: GDaddy] #2895644
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Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Or, just decline to comply and suffer the consequences.
Then when they get sick or hurt they go to Emergency room and rest of us get to pay for it.

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