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Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone #2895362
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R U fking kidding.

His plan would reinstate the individual mandate, a tax on people who dont have insurance that was part of the federal Affordable Care Act. Congress revoked it in 2017, allowing people to opt out of having health insurance without a penalty.

Newsoms announcement Monday includes a budget proposal to expand Medi-Cal eligibility to young adults living in the country illegally. Currently, children without legal status are eligible for Medi-Cal benefits until they turn 19. Newsom wants to extend that age limit to age 26.

Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: Wheelhouse] #2895368
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Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: Wheelhouse] #2895370
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He's so generous (with other peoples money)!


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Love watching Trumptard heads exploding over California becoming an actual civilized Western Country.

Move to Floriduh and live with your people.


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Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: Wheelhouse] #2895374
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Yeah, better that they just end up in the ER with bills that they will never pay and end up being eaten by private enterprise and taxpayers. That's the ticket foreheadslap


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Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: FecalFace] #2895413
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Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Love watching Trumptard heads exploding over California becoming an actual civilized Western Country.

Move to Floriduh and live with your people.

You're insane

Fining people who can't afford insurance while giving "free" insurance to people who aren't even citizens?

I understand you're always down with handouts, but why would you want to make those who are already poor have more costs?


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Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: grapedrink] #2895415
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Originally Posted By: grapedrink
Yeah, better that they just end up in the ER with bills that they will never pay and end up being eaten by private enterprise and taxpayers. That's the ticket foreheadslap

So instead just make everyone pay for it by paying companies that are picked and chosen by the government and have no real market controls on their pricing. Oh yeah, these people aren't even citizens. Actual citizens will be fined for not being able to afford insurance.

Yeah, that's the ticket


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Originally Posted By: ifallalot
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Love watching Trumptard heads exploding over California becoming an actual civilized Western Country.

Move to Floriduh and live with your people.

You're insane

Fining people who can't afford insurance while giving "free" insurance to people who aren't even citizens?

I understand you're always down with handouts, but why would you want to make those who are already poor have more costs?


Its not a fvcking hand out. You get health insurance for less money. And everybodys covered so the ERs dont get clogged. And people are not dying.
Hows that bad?

Whos firing people who cant afford insurance wtf are you even talking about.


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Our doofus governor and democrat controlled legislature imposed the employee mandate at the state level as soon as it was removed at the federal level. The penalty is at the state level not. Sounds like California is fooking its citizens over the same way.


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Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: FecalFace] #2895433
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Originally Posted By: FecalFace
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Love watching Trumptard heads exploding over California becoming an actual civilized Western Country.

Move to Floriduh and live with your people.

You're insane

Fining people who can't afford insurance while giving "free" insurance to people who aren't even citizens?

I understand you're always down with handouts, but why would you want to make those who are already poor have more costs?


Its not a fvcking hand out. You get health insurance for less money. And everybodys covered so the ERs dont get clogged. And people are not dying.
Hows that bad?

Whos firing people who cant afford insurance wtf are you even talking about.

Giving free insurance to illegal immigrants is absolutely a handout, especially when citizens are fitting the bill AND getting FINED for not having insurance. This isn't EVERYBODY at all, it is a small number of people.

ERs will continue to get clogged regardless. Ever been to an ER? It's not a bunch of illegal immigrant children there, it's the same people that aren't illegal, can't afford insurance, and are being fined because they can't afford to pay insurance.

And bums. Always bums


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Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: ifallalot] #2895439
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Its good that you are not a neo-fash nativist garbage.

I cant imagine what you would be saying about immigrants if you were.

You are getting fvcking health coverage for your money.

The fact that everybody is covered is just a bonus.

Illegal immigrants also work dummy. If their employers dont want to get them covered, somebody should.


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Originally Posted By: ifallalot
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Yeah, better that they just end up in the ER with bills that they will never pay and end up being eaten by private enterprise and taxpayers. That's the ticket foreheadslap

So instead just make everyone pay for it by paying companies that are picked and chosen by the government and have no real market controls on their pricing. Oh yeah, these people aren't even citizens. Actual citizens will be fined for not being able to afford insurance.

Yeah, that's the ticket

I am in no way endorsing the individual mandate, especially within the context of our current crap system, as a better alternative. We already have medi-cal that covers the poor. Anything that promotes preventative care and keeps people out of ERs is a step in the right direction IMO


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Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Its good that you are not a neo-fash nativist garbage.

I cant imagine what you would be saying about immigrants if you were.

You are getting fvcking health coverage for your money.

The fact that everybody is covered is just a bonus.

Illegal immigrants also work dummy. If their employers dont want to get them covered, somebody should.


Wow. You are just delusional. Illegals should go back to the country they came from for medical coverage and not impose on the citizens of the country where they are trespassing.


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Originally Posted By: grapedrink
Yeah, better that they just end up in the ER with bills that they will never pay and end up being eaten by private enterprise and taxpayers. That's the ticket foreheadslap


I thought illegal immigrants didnt cost us any money...


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